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Precisionpower said:
Tell us the truth Steve...you like it when people do things there not suppose to...Prob makes you really smile to not have to write out a check, So you can get your bonus i'm betting..
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This from the guy charging' poor folks $35 bucks a day for 90 square feet of dirt in your back yard.....or $1000 bucks to haul a vehicle out of a ditch and tow it half a mile. I also call BS that you don't charge the common joe less than an insurance company.

I imagine you're laughing all the way to the bank when you find out that vehicle is insured......


It's idiotic practices that drives the cost of insurance up....funny thing is, some are too dense to realiaze the consequences of what they do....when 1) they cut corners 2) do something that they aren't qualified to do. They think they know....

All one has to do is look at tragedies like the Great White fire in Rhode Island.....I bet the guy setting off the pyro thought as you do.....Then they hope their pal, the insurance company will look after them.

Here's a quick read which explains how crazy the legal system; look who's getting sued still and all looking to their liability insurer. insurance settlements will be in the 10's of m,illions of dollars...

http://www.insurevents.com/Articles/RIFire503.htm

As for you're last comment; I thought you were more of a man than that? I smile when I walk into the rebuilt home of someone that's lost everything in a fire, and now has it rebuilt with all new belongings; thanks to their insurance company, or help people through difficult times.....

Unlike you, I don't prey on people stranded on the side of the road, take their money and bid: Adios Sucker!
 
Steve, I am all for proper insurance and playing by the rules, but I have to disagree when you say tow truck companies are bilking anyone. When our semi broke down on the interstate last year, that driver earned every penny he collected...if I remember right it was in the neighborhood of $750 for a 15 mile tow. To properly handle this job, this guy was available at 3am....had a truck capable of towing our 45,000 lb truck & trailer (similar to the one Brian drives at his job)...is capable of properly disconnecting the necessary drive lines to safely tow our truck without destroying it (this was a 1 1/2 hour task....in cold weather)....in addition to his truck payment and insurance, he has a fair amount of paperwork associated with having a CDL, including to file and pay fuel taxes...in addition, he safely parked our disabled truck and trailer at the service location (a feat in itself if you've every tried to back a towed vehicle....then delivered us and our necessities to a motel. This process took more than 3 hours. We were happy giving him his money. He earned it. He took care of us...

Now, if he had to finance that for 30-90 days waiting for insurance to pay up...and that's assuming they don't deny it a time or two...should his company be entitled to more? I'm not one to make that decision, but I consider it's a towing company...not a finance company. The guy who towed us would have charged more had we not been paying cash. It's more paperwork, and adds a lot of time to collecting payment, as compared to taking the check to the bank.
 
Val- Respectfully - Was that an insurance job? and lets be fair.....your job is the exception...I'm talking the average passenger vehicle job

Go price a windshield for your car; tell them you have no insurance.....at least 50% less than the insurance price....

I've never seen a tow yard release a vehicle without a guarantee of getting paid. If they release it to the owner, he has to pay up. If it goes to the body shop; the body shop pays the bill. If it sits, the owner is ultimately responsible, not the insurance company - it isn't their car and Brian gets an additional 35 bucks a day...no matter what...

I've been an adjuster 30 years Val......I know what I speak of.....

The only reason I took the jab - was is in response to the personal attack.....the whole towing thing is irrelevant to this thread....
 
Steve LeBlanc said:
Val- Respectfully - Was that an insurance job? and lets be fair.....your job is the exception...I'm talking the average passenger vehicle job
Go price a windshield for your car; tell them you have no insurance.....at least 50% less than the insurance price....
I've never seen a tow yard release a vehicle without a guarantee of getting paid. If they release it to the owner, he has to pay up. If it goes to the body shop; the body shop pays the bill. If it sits, the owner is ultimately responsible, not the insurance company - it isn't their car and Brian gets an additional 35 bucks a day...no matter what...
I've been an adjuster 30 years Val......I know what I speak of.....
The only reason I took the jab - was is in response to the personal attack.....the whole towing thing is irrelevant to this thread....
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Oh I know...you two can poke back and forth, I don't mind ;)

What I'm saying, is that if a vendor, in this case towing, has to wait 30-90 days or more, with additional paperwork required, with a high chance of multiple correspondence to get paid, they should get paid more! I know it seems wrong. As a business owner, I know the cost of financing work already completed is expensive! If insurance paid quickly and hassle free, this wouldn't be the case. That's nothing personal against you, and I don't know that insurance companies can do anything about it (I understand they need to verify, everything needs to be 100%, etc, or htey lose too much to false claims). I'm just saying it costs to finance income.

As for the $35/day...who pays insurance on that lot? Who guarantees payment will ever come? Who pays the taxes on the land and maintains the fence? Who pays for security monitoring? You, as the vehicle owner, have the option to pick up the vehicle without daily fees...where's the inhumanity? If they didn't charge a daily storage fee, some people would never retrieve their vehicles; then the towing company wouldn't receive compensation for their tow work already completed (Brian would already be paid for it, the truck already used the fuel, the insurance & taxes are paid), and they may be stuck with a wrecked vehicle to dispose of. Or should they just keep all the vehicles for free, assume the liability for theft (did you know wrecked cars are great targets for personal property and parts theft?) until the lot is full and they have to purchase more land or refuse towing because they have nowhere to park the vehicle? Rag on Brian all you want--I like giving him a hard time myself! I am just not seeing the wrong here.
 
Valerie Hicks said:
As for the $35/day...who pays insurance on that lot?
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Just throwing a thought out here Val...

As I've planning on putting my stuff in storage (yet again down here), and I noticed their prices for storing cars, boats, etc. It's $60 a month.

Is there some reason I should pay $35 a day ($1050 per month), as opposed to $60 per month...?
 
SoftJock Rick said:
Just throwing a thought out here Val...

As I've planning on putting my stuff in storage (yet again down here), and I noticed their prices for storing cars, boats, etc. It's $60 a month.

Is there some reason I should pay $35 a day ($1050 per month), as opposed to $60 per month...?
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That's exactly what I'm saying, Rick. The owner has the option of choosing alternate storage.
 
Like Val said Steve, Someone namely my boss, has to sit on the phone or computer and deal with the insurance people to get paid. Val is 100% correct. It is a P.I.T.A. to get paid from the insurance people. And in the towing world, you arent guaranteed anything. you rely on the phone to ring. When it doesnt ring enough, People like me starve.

We also accept all the liability once we hook up to a customers vehicle. If i don't do something just right, Something gets wrecked. In the heavy duty world, It takes one small mis calculation to easily double income you would have made on the tow.

And yes your in a hurry when your defenseless laying under a truck @ 2a.m. on the shoulder of an interstate with people screaming by you inches away @ 80 MPH I've been close to being taken out by peoples mirrors numerous times while getting tools out of my truck.

So while trying to stay alive, I make a small mistake, Tow Co loses its ass on the tow. And we have to staff our company 24 hours a day and be ready for just about anything...It really is a totally different animal. When most companys slow down, They just lay people off. Tow Companys don't have that option.

And we have a fenced in, Black top covered, 24 hr security impound lot. Once again, As soon as we hook a vehicle, We accept the liability. We scratch it, something gets stolen, People try to pull crap on us all the time also. And like Val stated, If you dont like the $35 a day, have someone come get your junk and get it out of here! No one forces you to keep it here......

But let me guess, it takes a week or 2 to get through the red tape at the office doesnt it???
 
And if you think its an easy job, Come on over and drive this in traffic
 

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Like Val said Steve, Someone namely my boss, has to sit on the phone or computer and deal with the insurance people to get paid. Val is 100% correct. It is a P.I.T.A. to get paid from the insurance people. And in the towing world, you arent guaranteed anything. you rely on the phone to ring. When it doesnt ring enough, People like me starve.

We also accept all the liability once we hook up to a customers vehicle. If i don't do something just right, Something gets wrecked. In the heavy duty world, It takes one small mis calculation to easily double income you would have made on the tow.

And yes your in a hurry when your defenseless laying under a truck @ 2a.m. on the shoulder of an interstate with people screaming by you inches away @ 80 MPH I've been close to being taken out by peoples mirrors numerous times while getting tools out of my truck.

So while trying to stay alive, I make a small mistake, Tow Co loses its ass on the tow. And we have to staff our company 24 hours a day and be ready for just about anything...It really is a totally different animal. When most companys slow down, They just lay people off. Tow Companys don't have that option.

And we have a fenced in, Black top covered, 24 hr security impound lot. Once again, As soon as we hook a vehicle, We accept the liability. We scratch it, something gets stolen, People try to pull crap on us all the time also. And like Val stated, If you dont like the $35 a day, have someone come get your junk and get it out of here! No one forces you to keep it here......

But let me guess, it takes a week or 2 to get through the red tape at the office doesnt it???
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Done whining?

If you had listened in school perhaps you could have done better in life; you could have been the one sitting at the desk.
 
I work my ass off, But happen to like my job. I earn every dollar i make. So for you to imply that i'd be "doing better in life" Sitting behind a desk is simply being ignorant Steve.

Just like it's ignorant to "feel sorry" for an insurance co. I've had them low ball me 2 times already,
And they prey on people who dont know any better... So dont give us any crap.
 
And everyone has a job to do, Don't they Steve?? You've never low balled someone?? or found a "loophole" to pay them less than you had to?? Your the only person i've ever heard try to make it appear that the Insurance Co is the "Nice Guys"
 
Let's all agree that insurance people and tow truck operators are either really slimy or the salt of the earth .. and we can move on.
 
And you "chose" to blow smoke up our arses by making the Ins Co look like the "poor" victim, When they hold all the cards to the general public, And use that to there ability ALL the time.

Every adjuster i've ever seen is all the same....There out of the same mold/Hiring guidelines "YES men"

So, since you have that super cushy, "I did better in life than you did" Desk job, What do you think of them apples "Big Man" ??
 
Precisionpower said:
And you "chose" to blow smoke up our arses by making the Ins Co look like the "poor" victim, When they hold all the cards to the general public, And use that to there ability ALL the time.

Every adjuster i've ever seen is all the same....There out of the same mold/Hiring guidelines "YES men"

So, since you have that super cushy, "I did better in life than you did" Desk job, What do you think of them apples "Big Man" ??
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Says the man with; how many years in the insurance industry? ...and just how many adjusters have you seen? one, two .....maybe 3; and in each case were you trying to screw them by inflating your claim, or giving them that "insurance rate" (see: "screwing" before.....)

Whatever Mr Precison Bass Head...keep on "living the dream!"....

God! The joy on parents face when they hear their 10 year old utter: Mom, Dad...I want to be a tow truck driver when I grow up"

I'll give you the last word...Make it good!
 
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