Talking About Backups!

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ahoustondj

ahoustondj

Mac Daddy DJ
Aug 13, 2007
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We have discussed Backups for Hard Drives, Laptops and some speakers. How about for those who use Gobo's, Monograms, Photo Booths, Uplighting, Cake Lighting, Ceremony systems (Especially those who use 1 Mono Speaker)? Does everyone literally carry backup for everything, two of each?
 
SoftJock Rick said:
I sorta doubt most do, and it probably wouldn't be feasible in most cases.

I'll retort with a question back at you...

When you do an art install, do you bring a backup...?
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A backup for what, the tools and hardware?
 
One doesn't need a backup for every piece of equipment. One needs a solution for most of the possible problems that could be encountered. If you have multiple amps in a rack, you can potentially rerig your rack to accomodate an amplifier problem, for example. Also, one needs to consider the odds of failure...you wouldn't need to carry 16 extra lights if your event is using 16 lights...the odds of all failing at once are pretty slim. You would be wise, however, to carry an extra fixture, an extra lamp or two, perhaps extra socket or other integral component. It would also be smart to have some simple tools for making a quick, simple, onsite repair such as a broken plug end or wire inadvertantly pinched in a door and damaged...wire stripper, electrical tape, etc.
 
Valerie Hicks said:
One doesn't need a backup for every piece of equipment. One needs a solution for most of the possible problems that could be encountered. If you have multiple amps in a rack, you can potentially rerig your rack to accomodate an amplifier problem, for example. Also, one needs to consider the odds of failure...you wouldn't need to carry 16 extra lights if your event is using 16 lights...the odds of all failing at once are pretty slim. You would be wise, however, to carry an extra fixture, an extra lamp or two, perhaps extra socket or other integral component. It would also be smart to have some simple tools for making a quick, simple, onsite repair such as a broken plug end or wire inadvertantly pinched in a door and damaged...wire stripper, electrical tape, etc.
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That is true Val, I know that but what about the chaps who use simple setups? When I mean simple setups I am referring to laptop, maybe controller or mixer and two powered speakers. One speaker goes, then what for these guys. First would the system they have be interchangeable and second will they still have the required power to cover the crowd. These are the guys from whom I would also like to hear answers.
 
ahoustondj said:
That is true Val, I know that but what about the chaps who use simple setups? When I mean simple setups I am referring to laptop, maybe controller or mixer and two powered speakers. One speaker goes, then what for these guys. First would the system they have be interchangeable and second will they still have the required power to cover the crowd. These are the guys from whom I would also like to hear answers.
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Same applies. Some pieces might be prudent to have backed up, others not so much. Many events could go on (without a complaint) with part of a system if necessary. Core pieces to be concerned about are the ones that prevent the music from happening...like your playback device or even your audio mixer. You don't necessarily have to have a 2nd mixer, but you need a plan on how to continue the music without one at the very least. You don't need another laptop, but even just an ipod with a basic library will get you through. Common sense. Limping by on the entertainers end doesn't mean a ruined event, it merely means stress on the entertainer.
 
SoftJock Rick said:
No -- I meant the artwork. What if you drop the Shakira poster -- do you have another...?
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First of all I want to enlighten your feeble mind since I have mentioned before that I am not a Picture Dealer/Hanger. Posters fall in that realm. You might be accustomed to the "push pin" $2.00 posters at Walmart, neither I nor my clients deal in that garbage. My Clients/Designers do not pay me $125.00/$75.00 per hour to hang posters.
To answer your question you are making a very lame excuse for a similarity as referring to backups. IF something was to fall and break, it will be replaced by whoever is at fault for its demise. Everyone involved knows that it cannot be immediately replaced. So pray tell me, what is your point and do you have a question that makes sense pertaining to what I do in the Art and Interior Design Industry?
 
ahoustondj said:
First of all I want to enlighten your feeble mind since I have mentioned before that I am not a Picture Dealer/Hanger. Posters fall in that realm. You might be accustomed to the "push pin" $2.00 posters at Walmart, neither I nor my clients deal in that garbage. My Clients/Designers do not pay me $125.00/$75.00 per hour to hang posters.
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My feeble mind tells me, that you do not carry backup for your "artwork".

So, let's say you show up to hang said poster or artwork, or whatever BS you want to call it. Perhaps you drop it, and break it. Is your gig still on, or do you need to come back at a later time, with perhaps another signed and numbered copy that your client paid for...?

What's your backup?
 
SoftJock Rick said:
My feeble mind tells me, that you do not carry backup for your "artwork".

So, let's say you show up to hang said poster or artwork, or whatever BS you want to call it. Perhaps you drop it, and break it. Is your gig still on, or do you need to come back at a later time, with perhaps another signed and numbered copy that your client paid for...?

What's your backup?
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NOBODY expects an Art Dealer/Consultant/Installer to have backups of Customed Framed Artwork. If I damage something, I bear the costs of replacements or repair.
 
ahoustondj said:
NOBODY expects an Art Dealer/Consultant/Installer to have backups of Customed Framed Artwork. If I damage something, I bear the costs of replacements or repair.
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Based upon that analogy -- I shouldn't need to carry a backup of anything. I just give them their money back.
 
SoftJock Rick said:
Based upon that analogy -- I shouldn't need to carry a backup of anything. I just give them their money back.
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That is a very understandable option for a DJ to use. In my case of providing Art for Sale and Installation services I don't have contracts to honor, just a bill of sale. I am usually paid upfront anyway for all Art purchases before I set out to deliver. The kind of people who will pay someone $125.00 to hang four 20x24 paintings don't quibble about forking over the cash.
 
SoftJock Rick said:
Have you ever set up an "artwork" in the corner?

How far do you spread said "artwork"?

Do you do a site survey prior to hanging said "artwork"?
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You need to stop sniffing Glue! :eek:
 
ahoustondj said:
You need to stop sniffing Glue! :eek:
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Not one of my habits -- but I would appreciate any info you could give me. Oh, and what's the backup for glue -- would that be like WD-40...? xf:D
 
KY Jelly! YOU back up on it! :eek::sqlaugh::sqrofl::sqlaugh:
 
ahoustondj said:
KY Jelly! YOU back up on it! :eek::sqlaugh::sqrofl::sqlaugh:
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Ooh, that sounds a bit too "friendly" for me... :eek:


Just be lucky I'm not moving to Texas -- otherwise, I'd tar and feather your sorry butt, and drag you down the railroad tracks like in Blazing Saddles, you Commie backup bastard... :sqlaugh: :sqrofl:
 
SoftJock Rick said:
Ooh, that sounds a bit too "friendly" for me... :eek:


Just be lucky I'm not moving to Texas -- otherwise, I'd tar and feather your sorry butt, and drag you down the railroad tracks like in Blazing Saddles, you Commie backup bastard... :sqlaugh: :sqrofl:
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Bring it on!;)
 
Can't we all just get along ...
 
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