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Regarding active 12" and 18" drivers, I think we can all agree (or maybe we can't) that the QSC K12, the EV Live X 112P and the JBL PRX612M are at the same level (entry / mid). Similarly, the QSC Ksub, EV Live X 118P and the JBL PRX618S-XLF are on an equal level (entry / mid grade).

Vendors aside, what do you think would be the components in the next level (mid / high grade)?

I'm also interested in hearing your opinions if you think the above does not fall into the entry / mid grades - and why you think that.
 
FWIW, let's keep this to the active world. Also, please specify which models we are talking about - as I'm sure QSC, RCF, FBT, Peavey, etc do make all grades of equipment.
 
My dad has a pair of Renkus Heinz all weather quad 8" with 2 high driver. Wants $4500 for the pair. They retail that a piece. Brand new. They are uber high end.

No mobile DJ would want to mess with them. Cabs I think are 160lbs. each.

You can run audio to them via Cat5!

As far as mobile actives...RCF, Dynas, Isn't there a powered VRX by JBL?
 
JBL VRX, Danley (powered), the fore-mentioned Renkus Heinz, Meyer UPM, Tuck's Dynas, K-Array KL series.
 
If the livex18's are entry level,you fooled the mess outa me.I know one guy had problems.But the ones I have bump pretty good.
 
bizzyb53 said:
If the livex18's are entry level,you fooled the mess outa me.I know one guy had problems.But the ones I have bump pretty good.
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I don't think by stating they are entry/mid level speakers that they won't sound good but rather I believe it is ment as a reference to the components used and construction are what make it entry/mid level gear.
 
I'll bump the Live X up to mid level as I would place the following brands (solely on their price points - some are decent) in the entry level - Behringer, Samson, Gemini, Pyle, Harbinger, Phonic, Nady, some of the Peaveys. As always, the levels are relative to the working DJ, as most anything we discuss is probably entry level for a pro live sound rig.
 
steve149 said:
I'll bump the Live X up to mid level as I would place the following brands (solely on their price points - some are decent) in the entry level - Behringer, Samson, Gemini, Pyle, Harbinger, Phonic, Nady, some of the Peaveys. As always, the levels are relative to the working DJ, as most anything we discuss is probably entry level for a pro live sound rig.
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I agree with you...Live X is definitely midgrade compared to the above.
 
I second Steve's opinion, but would also add Yorkville NX series, 500P and 750P. I have owned a matched set of RCF's (ART series...no pun intended) since 1999 and they are excellent quality, high on price, but then you most often get what you pay for. :) RCF 200A (12") 2-way and 800A (15") subwoofer. The clarity of those mains are unbelievable at low volume.
 
I agree the Yorkvilles are certainly in the mid+ level, as are the RCF.
 
bizzyb53 said:
If the livex18's are entry level,you fooled the mess outa me.I know one guy had problems.But the ones I have bump pretty good.
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Loneavenger said:
I agree with you...Live X is definitely midgrade compared to the above.
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steve149 said:
I'll bump the Live X up to mid level as I would place the following brands (solely on their price points - some are decent) in the entry level - Behringer, Samson, Gemini, Pyle, Harbinger, Phonic, Nady, some of the Peaveys. As always, the levels are relative to the working DJ, as most anything we discuss is probably entry level for a pro live sound rig.
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I placed the Live X, K12 and the JBL in the entry / mid grade and not the mid / high grade. I agree with all statements regarding the Live X not being entry level. I also agree that there have not been many issues with them. I have the Live X 12's and 18's and have had no issues with them. I use them regularly too. No issues with the K12's either but I prefer the sound from the EV's.

As Steve said, some of us may view some cabs as entry while others view them as mid - which was why I did a entry / mid and a mid / high. Also in line with Steve, I do consider some other mfr's to be below the EV's, so the EV's would be mid in my eyes too.
 
Just talk. No real purpose, other than establishing what we all think resides on what level. At some point, I'd like to up my (active) game and I'd like to know what my options are. I was also hoping that this informative bit could help others.
 
It's all in fun .. one man's Gemini might be another's Meyer.
 
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