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Proformance

Proformance

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This is probably one of the most ridiculous and consumer insulting emails I've ever received and a perfect example for DJs to learn what not to do when selling. From Ots Labs:

WHAT'S IN ESPERANCE? Thus far, we've chosen to keep information about exactly what's inside Esperance fairly closely under wraps. While a number of statements have been made, few have been particularly specific We have good reasons for this and although Ots Labs will continue to keep the majority of details under wraps until release day, LAST CHANCE TO SAVE BIG - 40% OFF - 40 HOURS ONLY! Starting now, we are running our FINAL pre-release promotion. For the next 40 hours only, all new OtsAV license sales / additional licenses are available for a whopping 40% OFF.
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Right - are you going to pay for a product the seller refuses to describe, can not demonstrate, and can't even promise to deliver complete or in a reasonable period of time?

If so, I have some land in Florida you can get right now at 40% below market. I can't tell you where it is, there's no photos yet, and visiting is not possible at this time. But, it's 40% off so act now!

 
Bob, I needed a second license so this "special" came at a good time for me. Two weeks ago I purchased a laptop to be my backup for DJ, but primarily for office use. I had been waiting for Esperance to roll but it wasn't going to happen anytime soon. I now have OTS on two laptops and when Esperance is release all I will need to do is upgrade (free). It was a no brainer for me....this time. :)xf:D
 
Art - Unlike Windows, you shouldn't need a 2nd license to run a backup copy of the software unless it might be used at the same time as the other lappy. I know with PCDJ you are allowed to do it that way.
 
Steve, OTS requires a paid license for each machine that their software is installed...no way around it. :triwink:
 
That sucks ... :tribiggrin:
 
You can run Rockit on 2 machines at the same time, providing you are the only one using it. One main, one backup :)

There's also a special deal going on, but you need to go to Rockit2000.Com to find it...


Never could figure people out -- you can get a fantastic product for about a 100 bucks, and probably the best support in the industry. Or, you can spend 300 bucks for each copy from France or Australia, and never get anybody on the phone. What's up with that...?
 
Ricky,
You need to know the right people :D:D:D:D:D:D
 
I have come to the realization today that I may never use OTS again. I have a licensed copy, who the heck knows about the "Esperance Upgrade" that had a promised release date of LAST SUMMER.

Today I did away with all my OTS music databases and backups. It's a GREAT day here!

Best,

Paul
 
Rick has a good point. I sampled some of the available dj software on the market before I went digital and to me they all sucked. It gave me a geeky non dj type of feeling. If there was no Serato I would still be spinning cd's proudly.
 
TwinSpinDJ said:
Bob, I needed a second license so this "special" came at a good time for me. Two weeks ago I purchased a laptop to be my backup for DJ, but primarily for office use. I had been waiting for Esperance to roll but it wasn't going to happen anytime soon. I now have OTS on two laptops and when Esperance is release all I will need to do is upgrade (free). It was a no brainer for me....this time. :)xf:D
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In other words... you just paid for one product but - were given a different one with no assurances that they will ever actually deliver what you paid for. It's called "bait and switch."

I'm still waiting for my free upgrade to OtsDJ 2.0 - is a name change all it takes to run this scam again?
 
SoftJock Rick said:
You can run Rockit on 2 machines at the same time, providing you are the only one using it. One main, one backup :)
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That's how it should be - license the user not the machine. It would be foolish not to have a second turn-key computer ready as backup. That, along with several serious missing elements in Ots shows that they really don't get DJs or the needs of DJs at all.

Never could figure people out -- you can get a fantastic product for about a 100 bucks, and probably the best support in the industry. Or, you can spend 300 bucks for each copy from France or Australia, and never get anybody on the phone. What's up with that...?
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VIDEO - this is 2012 and a DJ software without video capability is not very useful no matter how inexpensive. Go to the mall and look around at all the video monitors. What's in the lobby at your doctor's or dentist office? - Video! What do you see everywhere you look? Video! Video! Video! Video!
 
Proformance said:
VIDEO - this is 2012 and a DJ software without video capability is not very useful no matter how inexpensive. Go to the mall and look around at all the video monitors. What's in the lobby at your doctor's or dentist office? - Video! What do you see everywhere you look? Video! Video! Video! Video!
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Rockit plays video -- in fact it has two video decks. It's not my main focus though -- music is.

I cater to the wedding DJ, and I feel that video detracts from the social element of a wedding. If everybody is staring at a screen, they aren't socializing, they aren't looking at each other, etc... The bride also wants to be the center of attention at her wedding -- you shouldn't deprive her of that.

Video has it's place, but I'm not sure a wedding is the right place -- sports bar maybe...
 
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SoftJock Rick said:
Rockit plays video -- in fact it has two video decks. It's not my main focus though -- music is.

I cater to the wedding DJ, and I feel that video detracts from the social element of a wedding. If everybody is staring at a screen, they aren't socializing, they aren't looking at each other, etc... The bride also wants to be the center of attention at her wedding -- you shouldn't deprive her of that.

Video has it's place, but I'm not sure a wedding is the right place -- sports bar maybe...
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Completely agree with Rick on this one....weddings and video screens to me do not mix.
 
I'm in the same boat as Rick and Patrick. When we chat with other vendors, many of them mention as well how out of place and tacky the video stuff looks at weddings.
 
SoftJock Rick said:
Rockit plays video -- in fact it has two video decks. It's not my main focus though -- music is.

I cater to the wedding DJ, and I feel that video detracts from the social element of a wedding. If everybody is staring at a screen, they aren't socializing, they aren't looking at each other, etc... The bride also wants to be the center of attention at her wedding -- you shouldn't deprive her of that.

Video has it's place, but I'm not sure a wedding is the right place -- sports bar maybe...
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Wow. You are so out of touch. Weddings are not the majority of DJ work out there, in fact they are probably the most tired of all the event market for DJs. In every other facet of this business Video plays a huge part. I wouldn't even consider a DJ software that didn't have extensive and reliable video capabilities.

Secondly, you are mistaken about what detracts from a wedding. The screens have no ability of their own to be "tacky" - it is the DJs who do tacky things with them and create gear-centric setups that resemble trade show booths more than a wedding. The whole "totems" setup is a tired worn out Bar Mitzvah set. At a wedding Your DJ booth shouldn't look like the check out line at at Super Saver.
 
Proformance said:
Wow. You are so out of touch.
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So they tell me... :rolleyes:


Proformance said:
Weddings are not the majority of DJ work out there, in fact they are probably the most tired of all the event market for DJs
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As mentioned above, that is the market I cater to. I do not write software to be the "jack of all trades" -- everything I design, has a specific purpose, and is priced appropriately. If YOU want to try to be all things, to all people -- fine.

I don't. :)
 
SoftJock Rick said:
If YOU want to try to be all things, to all people -- fine.
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You were the one who asked why people would pay 3 times more for other software - and I just told you. If you choose to limit your product capability then by definition you also limit your client base.
 
Proformance said:
If you choose to limit your product capability then by definition you also limit your client base.
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That's correct -- is there a problem with that...?

I focus on one area, and it seems to work well.

If you choose to be the "Jack of all trades, master of none" -- so be it...
 
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