Ben - that new LED gobo projector?

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Hello everyone! Brand new to this forum and I am just now starting with adding lighting as options and looking at add custom gobo type lighting and uplighting. With project like this, how would you make it that only the white text and graphics to show through? ( I would like it to not show a box, but not have to pay for a custom gobo everytime).

Thanks,
Jesse
 
DJ Wes said:
Black background - adjust brightness and contrast to suit.
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but since it only replicates what is on your screen, you could use ANY computer program to create your design??? yes?
 
I've mentioned this to Wes, privately, and thought I'd take it public for discussion.

After buying several fixed-gobo projectors, and trying the PC-projector route, I'm thinking I may give another run at the PC route again. With a reasonable number of lumens (2500) you can get a really nice image and your options are endless on what you can create.

I'm currently working on concept of creating animated gobos. I think it has potential. I roughed one up and showed it Wes and (expectedly) he didn't like that it doesn't have the "blur to black" (gradient) around the edges. On the floor, it would have the boxed edges and I admit I don't like that either. Does anyone know of a video editing program that would let you take an animated video clip and apply a gradient (fade to black) to it? If I can make this work I think it'd be a game-changer in my area.

(rough sample provided)
http://www.rickryan.com/images/gobosample.wmv
 
Steve LeBlanc said:
Where are you going to show this (wall or floor)?
It's going to get boring...quick....
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And you think a fixed gobo is interesting?

I'd use it just like a standard gobo (dance floor, wall, etc.). I'm thinking the animation should be a fairly subtle, moving pattern. The effort is to offer something different to the client that separates you from the rest of the herd. I can still offer a traditional fixed gobo if they prefer.
 
Honestly for me I think it has nothing to do with boring and sides more on the line of distracting. A simple gobo on the floor or wall can look elegant but not over power the person looking at it. Now a gobo that changes but is more in line with a standard gobo might be different. Again these are just my thoughts and nothing more. In the long run Rick you know what works for you.
 
nextgen1 said:
Honestly for me I think it has nothing to do with boring and sides more on the line of distracting. A simple gobo on the floor or wall can look elegant but not over power the person looking at it. Now a gobo that changes but is more in line with a standard gobo might be different. Again these are just my thoughts and nothing more. In the long run Rick you know what works for you.
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Good point. In my own case, I'm also after something that will provide a floor wash. I've gone to using 4 scanners with a single floor wash (source four jr zoom) and a stock pattern gobo. On monogram jobs, I'll overlay a white monogram over the floor wash pattern. Problem I've run into with the SF method is I can't get an angle that'll make the floor wash evenly rounded. I'm thinking if I use the animation thru a projector, I can adjust the pattern as needed and get the floor wash as well, all out of one fixture. Being able to overlay a monogram (caption in video terms) is just gravy.
 
What Nextgen says...I think a rotating gobo looks stupid and distracting as well.... I get what your trying to do (floor wash with a monogram).I done thing you'll achieve that with a projector. I don't think the projector will give you a wide enough spread on the floor (unless it 50 feet away)....and then you'll have clarity, keystone issues
 
I think you could do a photo montage with most video editing programs, and put each "slide" into a Powerpoint presentation... sorta like the pencil drawings on a tablet that you flip through. The same way they do cartoons. I happen to use "Roxio Media Creator" to edit my videos, and it gives me that option for "stills" within the video. All I do is pause the video, and do a "capture image"... It's just that simple. Capture as many images as you want, then do a quick dissolve between each still.
 
Tyrone Blue said:
I think you could do a photo montage with most video editing programs, and put each "slide" into a Powerpoint presentation... sorta like the pencil drawings on a tablet that you flip through. The same way they do cartoons. I happen to use "Roxio Media Creator" to edit my videos, and it gives me that option for "stills" within the video. All I do is pause the video, and do a "capture image"... It's just that simple. Capture as many images as you want, then do a quick dissolve between each still.
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Yea, I'd thought about multiple stills and may have to go that route but I'm really after a true video background. The text/monogram probably will look best without animation (fixed) but what I'm after is a subtle, fluid background that I can use as a floor wash. Steve may be right that it may not provide enough punch but then again, it might have enough. I don't want anything bright enough to overpower either the scanners or "colored dot" fixtures that I use for dance floor. The main thing I'm after is that "next big thing" that nobody else is pulling off (locally). Might not work but I'm gonna try.
 
Has anyone come up with a step by step guide on how to make a Gobo using Photoshop, to print on transparency sheets, as described in this tread by Randy A and as demo'd by Chauvet on their YouTube demo? Any help is appreciated!
 
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