What porcessors ( IF ANY) do you use.

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Dou you use processors?

  • Crossover

    Votes: 35 100.0%

  • EQ

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • DSP

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • None

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    35
drzinc

drzinc

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In light of the other thread here is a small survey.

In my system I have two DSP's

One is a digital crossover/parametric eq/compressor-limiter/and time alighment processor. DSP1
The other is a multi function digital eq. DSP2

Together these two processors allow me to tune my system for any venu. I can also save the settings for a specific venue and recall it when i go there again.
 
New setups DRPA+ x2
Backup gear dual 31 Band EQ's, DBX crossover, DBX compressor/limiter, etc. and that's it.
 
This is what I have and use..

Mackie 1402 VLZ Pro Live Mixer.: http://www.mackie.com/products/1402vlz3/
Ashly SC-77 Stereo 3-Way Electronic Crossover: http://compare.ebay.com/like/170662611043?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y
DBX Dual Chanel 31-Band Equalizer: http://www.dbxpro.com/1231/index.php
DBX 166XL Compressor/Limiter/Gate : http://www.dbxpro.com/166XL/index.php
Korg DRV-1000 Digital Reverb : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Korg-DRV-10...&otn=26&pmod=280725201463&ps=50#ht_2105wt_945
Behringer MULTICOM PRO MDX4400 4-chan compressor limiter (Used for extra Mics) http://s3.amazonaws.com/bonanzleimages/afu/images/0046/8073/ScreenHunter_05_Apr._17_18.05.gif
 
a dual 31 band EQ and a crossover if we need the other speakers.
 
What's a "porcessor"...? Is that somebody who assesses the poor...? :D


Prefer not to use any if possible -- although I will occasionally use a two way electronic crossover outdoors, just to get more oomph, by using two amps.

Sometimes I'll play with the three band EQ, but only for drops -- never raises.
 
DRPA on my QSC-PLX powered rack system. Nothing (other than my Pioneer mixer) for the powered speaker set up.
 
DRPA for room tuning, limiting and feedback reduction for those that don't know how to use a mic (wired and wireless)
Yorkville UP25 processor for Unity tops and subs
Lexicon and TC Electronic effect boxes
Behringer DEQ2496 and DBX224 when necessary

and a Presonus StudioLive 16.4.2 which has a ton of processing when I need more than my Denon or Soundcraft mixers
 
For normal DJ gigs I don't use anything except a quad gate/compressor. This simply allows me to compress/gate the mics independently of limit settings on the master out. I only add an active crossover if I need to use subs.

The digital recordings from the original CDs are already perfect and any variations in venue are easily within the tweak range of built-in EQ at the mixer or active speaker set.

IMHO: a DSP is great when doing live sound or presentations but overkill for pre-recorded dance music.
 
Processing Is Important.

For those who think that processing is not important think of this for a moment. Basically what you are saying is that your system sounds just fine wherever venue you go and requires no tweaking. If all venues were the same, why is it then that when a band goes to a venue they have to do sound checks and tweak things until they get it right? Therefore if no two venues are alike for any one given band, the same holds true for any one given system at different venues. There is no way the that the band can go to a different venue and expect everything to work the same way it did at the other venue.
The reason why the difference is not noticed by the average DJ is because they do not run high powered sound and maybe too that they themselves do not know how to tell. The clients sure don't because if you were to unplug one side of speaker I am sure they will keep on dancing. Would you also like to leave back one speaker? Of course not.
The conclusion is that if one is looking to improve their sound and make it sound better, then processing can be your friend. How will you know what you are missing if you never had it?
 
Most of the time, nothing but what the mixer offers (all of my mixers have built in EQ's). Like Ricky, I prefer not to use any processors if possible. Sometimes I'll play with a 31 band EQ. I also take advantage (at times) of the crossovers in my active components.
 
Proformance said:
The digital recordings from the original CDs are already perfect
IMHO: a DSP is great when doing live sound or presentations but overkill for pre-recorded dance music.
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Bob,
With all due respect you apparently don't play CDs/MP3s from local bands or a lot of Labels. There is a lot of crappy recordings out there, good songs but crappy recordings.
 
ahoustondj said:
For those who think that processing is not important think of this for a moment. Basically what you are saying is that your system sounds just fine wherever venue you go and requires no tweaking. If all venues were the same, why is it then that when a band goes to a venue they have to do sound checks and tweak things until they get it right? Therefore if no two venues are alike for any one given band, the same holds true for any one given system at different venues. There is no way the that the band can go to a different venue and expect everything to work the same way it did at the other venue.
The reason why the difference is not noticed by the average DJ is because they do not run high powered sound and maybe too that they themselves do not know how to tell. The clients sure don't because if you were to unplug one side of speaker I am sure they will keep on dancing. Would you also like to leave back one speaker? Of course not.
The conclusion is that if one is looking to improve their sound and make it sound better, then processing can be your friend. How will you know what you are missing if you never had it?
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a transistor radio will sound the same everywhere you go and doesn't need any processing,LOL.
 
CMWAT said:
a transistor radio will sound the same everywhere you go and doesn't need any processing,LOL.
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Yeah right! :yowigglyeyes2: LOL Is that what the average DJ has, Transistor Radios? yorofl:yorofl:yorofl:
 
ahoustondj said:
For those who think that processing is not important think of this for a moment. Basically what you are saying is that your system sounds just fine wherever venue you go and requires no tweaking. If all venues were the same, why is it then that when a band goes to a venue they have to do sound checks and tweak things until they get it right? Therefore if no two venues are alike for any one given band, the same holds true for any one given system at different venues. There is no way the that the band can go to a different venue and expect everything to work the same way it did at the other venue.
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God of Thunder, have you ever played in a band...?

Sound checks are to determine levels of instruments/vocals, and nothing more. The sound is supposed to be natural, and reflect the environment the band is playing in. It should NOT sound the same in every venue.
 
SoftJock Rick said:
God of Thunder, have you ever played in a band...?

Sound checks are to determine levels of instruments/vocals, and nothing more. The sound is supposed to be natural, and reflect the environment the band is playing in. It should NOT sound the same in every venue.
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Thank you very much! That is exactly my point!
 
ahoustondj said:
The conclusion is that if one is looking to improve their sound and make it sound better, then processing can be your friend. How will you know what you are missing if you never had it?
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And put in the hands of someone who doesn't know how to use it it can be thier worst enemy......

I don't use a whole lot of processing these days. If I am running the JBL system I use the 31 band EQ and the amp crossovers but on the Yorkville system I mainly use just the EQ from my board.

As a disclaimer if\when I was running live sound I always use a C\L
 
Jeff Romard said:
And put in the hands of someone who doesn't know how to use it it can be thier worst enemy......
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The :) strikes :D:D:D seriously EQ's are used to cut and since I edit and fix my files they need very few cuts in frequencies and feedback is the major cause of EQ changes. I don't use some features in my DRPA+ that can actually put a lot of strain on my drivers and are not needed as my system provides one hell of a low end. And I'll agree that some of the new music's mastering is trash, so when I convert to WAV I try to fix the bad stuff from it but you'd think whoever mastered this is deaf.
 
ahoustondj said:
Thank you very much! That is exactly my point!
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I think his point was that sound checks determine levels. There is not much 'tweaking' going on. The way you made it sound, was that the band does these checks and tweaks so that they DO sound the same at each venue. If I'm reading it right, Ricky's point was that they should NOT sound the same at each venue.
 
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