Actually only the one guy (Jumpin Jeff) is saying that they use OTS.... everyone else said they use VDJ. And VDJ works very well on a laptop, PC or MAC. Check VDJ Home, it's free: http://bit.ly/pm9HzP
What are VJ's using...
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Actually only the one guy (Jumpin Jeff) is saying that they use OTS.... everyone else said they use VDJ. And VDJ works very well on a laptop, PC or MAC. Check VDJ Home, it's free: http://bit.ly/pm9HzP
Gotta say Jynx, that the VDJ community has rejected me, hence my no longer owning a license.
As for your comments, they are completely fair. I've been using Autohotkey scripts personally to bypass the menu items, and assigning them to an X-Keys controller.
The conversion process is unfortunately necessary to utilize the auto beat mixing capabity, and to tweak the intro outro fade, trim and reference information non destructively, also allowing you to use the same audio data for several different edits of the same track.
It's a choice, and one that I've accepted. It's not for everyone. However, Ots still allows you to play your MP3 and wav files as is (not videos)
In it's current version, I agree it is not feature rich, but it is rock stable. I can't say that about my previous experience with any other software, including VDJ, but again, even VDJ has gotten better. I had the VDJ software on my drive prior to the last format, and haven't reloaded it since reconfiguring 2 weeks ago. I hadn't played with it for a few months now, but I didn't have the full up version either. It was the VDJ Home Free version. I have no doubt that it's easier to connect a MIDI controller to VDJ than to Ots. This is a feature I hope to see improved on in Ots soon.
I respect your decision. Ots isn't for everyone, neither is VDJ. They both take getting used to.
Abbey,
It's not natively supported on a Mac, no, but there are people using it on a Mac with Parallels or Bootcamp.
Heres a video on one of the users demoing it with bootcamp.
http://youtu.be/kUvfUU4OR_E
As for your comments, they are completely fair. I've been using Autohotkey scripts personally to bypass the menu items, and assigning them to an X-Keys controller.
The conversion process is unfortunately necessary to utilize the auto beat mixing capabity, and to tweak the intro outro fade, trim and reference information non destructively, also allowing you to use the same audio data for several different edits of the same track.
It's a choice, and one that I've accepted. It's not for everyone. However, Ots still allows you to play your MP3 and wav files as is (not videos)
In it's current version, I agree it is not feature rich, but it is rock stable. I can't say that about my previous experience with any other software, including VDJ, but again, even VDJ has gotten better. I had the VDJ software on my drive prior to the last format, and haven't reloaded it since reconfiguring 2 weeks ago. I hadn't played with it for a few months now, but I didn't have the full up version either. It was the VDJ Home Free version. I have no doubt that it's easier to connect a MIDI controller to VDJ than to Ots. This is a feature I hope to see improved on in Ots soon.
I respect your decision. Ots isn't for everyone, neither is VDJ. They both take getting used to.
Abbey,
It's not natively supported on a Mac, no, but there are people using it on a Mac with Parallels or Bootcamp.
Heres a video on one of the users demoing it with bootcamp.
http://youtu.be/kUvfUU4OR_E
Forgot to mention that the Ots format was also necessary to tweak the Video control information, and is required for the Ots Video Subsystem, hense no default capability to play video files directly.
He's right you know. Only I said OtsAV.
Do try them both, and make your choice from your own experience,
As a side note, I also said I use a desktop system. By no means does Ots require a desktop system. It will also run quite happily on a lesser system than I own, even a laptop. My system is likely well overpowered for my needs, but then again, I don't have an issue with resources ever. I also don't run just OtsAV on the system. It runs multiple apps at once. At one point, I was running OtsAV, LightJockey, MS office, and an apache server on the system so that I could utilize the Remote access capabilities of Ots as well, with a custom PHP script.
You should be OK for a video system with at least an i5 laptop as well.
Here are the Minimum, and recommended Hardware requirements if interested.
http://docs.otslabs.com/OtsAV/help/index.htm#using_otsav/video_subsystem/hardware_requirements.htm
You should be OK for a video system with at least an i5 laptop as well.
Here are the Minimum, and recommended Hardware requirements if interested.
http://docs.otslabs.com/OtsAV/help/index.htm#using_otsav/video_subsystem/hardware_requirements.htm
One more Observation... Concerning "OTS will beat match extended videos automatically with no problems."
I won't say that expressly. Once configured, yes, but it takes some effort to make that happen.
You can batch process your files for auto beat matching, but you'll have to enable each one after review, and tweaking to make it work perfectly, preventing train wrecks. ANd as for automatic, there is no in between. If you wish to mix out of a track prematurely, it will require manually doing so. The Ots ABM system allows you to create pre defined beat intros, and outros only, not a beat grid for the entire track. (Currently anyhow. We don't know if this will ever change.)
It is possible to clone the track however,(using the same audio information as stated above, and create different beatmix edits, so you can predefine a tease mix if desired.
I won't say that expressly. Once configured, yes, but it takes some effort to make that happen.
You can batch process your files for auto beat matching, but you'll have to enable each one after review, and tweaking to make it work perfectly, preventing train wrecks. ANd as for automatic, there is no in between. If you wish to mix out of a track prematurely, it will require manually doing so. The Ots ABM system allows you to create pre defined beat intros, and outros only, not a beat grid for the entire track. (Currently anyhow. We don't know if this will ever change.)
It is possible to clone the track however,(using the same audio information as stated above, and create different beatmix edits, so you can predefine a tease mix if desired.
Jeff, the VDJ Community is just like most communities that revolve around a product... you will have a few nice people, willing to help out, etc. And you will have the people there to get knowledge, ask questions, etc. And you will have the fanboys/fangirls who think their product is the End All Be All of civilization, and will trash anyone who even THINKS about using something else. And then, unfortunately, you also have the trolls. The dredges of the community, the lowest of the low. They will ruin the experience for everyone, just because that's what they do. And a lot of people get turned away from an otherwise good product, just because of the community. I have seen this on two specific boards, VDJ being one of them.
So I can completely empathize with you on that one. I just try to wade through the hate and find the people that genuinely help. So if you end up trying VDJ7, and you want to know anything, ODJT is probably a better place for you to ask questions, as you are far less likely to get trashed here for your questions. I'll also personally offer any help I can
So I can completely empathize with you on that one. I just try to wade through the hate and find the people that genuinely help. So if you end up trying VDJ7, and you want to know anything, ODJT is probably a better place for you to ask questions, as you are far less likely to get trashed here for your questions. I'll also personally offer any help I can
Jeff nice sales pitch. unny part of your comment was that you have used VDJ. What vewrsion did you have and use? That would make a difference for sure. Also LMAO OTS new release about to come out any day? Please thats pure silly right there. Wasnt the new release supposed to drop years ago? Just saying be honest with these folks its not likely to drop any day of course your very general comment is not a lie as it coud happen any day now as it was promised long ago That being said I have played around with OTS and its a nice format when the boys get off the waves perhaps updates and quick response to folks questions concerns and issues will become more current and efficient. Rockit Ricks offering does play video and If understood in process for a new release with more to offer. This likely will happen much before the OTS updates.
Thanks Jynxx.
Unfortunately, those I had trouble with in the VDJ community consider me a troll!
Those employed by VDJ actually refunded my purchase and sent me on my way before I even knew he was employed by them.
Actually suprised he hasn't poked his head in this thread and commented, but then that's really off topic. as is all of this side conversation.
Jon...
Sales pitch? Had this been a sales pitch, I don't think you'd have seen any backpedaling going on. Jynxx has some valid issues with the software. Issues that should be resolved to make the software even better. No software is perfect, and I have acknowledged that.
The release that was due out that you refer to, came out in 2006. The release I speak of was recently announced, and was projected for release in September of this year, but a delay announcement was made last week stating it wasn't going to make September. I still expect it soon.
This upcoming release is 5 releases after that big Beatmix release you speak of.
I think I already mentioned I had VDJ 5. I also said I've been using the VDJ Home editions (v6-7) since.
Please don't make this turn ugly. That will not benefit anyone. Allow the thread to go back on topic.
Unfortunately, those I had trouble with in the VDJ community consider me a troll!
Those employed by VDJ actually refunded my purchase and sent me on my way before I even knew he was employed by them.
Actually suprised he hasn't poked his head in this thread and commented, but then that's really off topic. as is all of this side conversation.
Jon...
Sales pitch? Had this been a sales pitch, I don't think you'd have seen any backpedaling going on. Jynxx has some valid issues with the software. Issues that should be resolved to make the software even better. No software is perfect, and I have acknowledged that.
The release that was due out that you refer to, came out in 2006. The release I speak of was recently announced, and was projected for release in September of this year, but a delay announcement was made last week stating it wasn't going to make September. I still expect it soon.
This upcoming release is 5 releases after that big Beatmix release you speak of.
I think I already mentioned I had VDJ 5. I also said I've been using the VDJ Home editions (v6-7) since.
Please don't make this turn ugly. That will not benefit anyone. Allow the thread to go back on topic.
I was satirical in my comment. The release date being missed is nothing new for the OTS clan and often times the updates have taken yrs. Im just saying when you say you suspect any day well thats a broad brush to stroke with in the case of OTS any day now could be infinite into the future. Using the home edition doesnt give you much cred in discussing the pro softwares capabilities in compare to your OTS software. That is my point. IT wasnt meant to get ugly only to verify your comments and make point as to what any day now means or the limitations of your VDJ experience. Just like any home or free trial issue it cannot be compared to the professional all frills models of anything. I am anxiously waiting for Rockit the next chapter to unfold.
Yer gonna have to wait a bit longer, until I get relocated, and get the licensing issues straightened out with the new corporate name in a different state...
Red tape BS is holding me up -- gotta love America... :sqerr:
You said it I didnt!!!!Yer gonna have to wait a bit longer, until I get relocated, and get the licensing issues straightened out with the new corporate name in a different state...
Red tape BS is holding me up -- gotta love America... :sqerr:
It ain't no better in Canuckville dude...
The entire north american continent is mired in red tape. It's not like the old days, where decent folk would take a bribe, and you could actually get something accomplished...
It ain't no better in Canuckville dude...
The entire north american continent is mired in red tape. It's not like the old days, where decent folk would take a bribe, and you could actually get something accomplished...
Too funny.
Hey Rick.... would it help you incorporate the MC6000 if I got you all the MIDI assignments? The whole list is in the manual, like what buttons and sliders and knobs are whatever code it is assigned to (its all gibberish to me), and I figured mayybe it might help with a mapper? I REALLY wanna try Rockit dammit!! lol