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From what I have been told the main killer of laptop batteries is people who run them dead periodically thinking they are preventing memory issues. Laptop batteries don't have memory since they stopped using NiCads. Running them dead kills them the fastest!

In that case, what I've been led to believe is wrong, and I'm now once again completely baffled. What IS the way to get the longest life out of laptop batteries?
 
In that case, what I've been led to believe is wrong, and I'm now once again completely baffled. What IS the way to get the longest life out of laptop batteries?

This pretty much summarizes what I've been told my various manufacturers. My only concern is the mention of running it down to recalibrate the charge level. While this was true under Windows XP, I was told that Windows 7 power management has hooks into the batteries and displays the remaining power dynamically with no need to re-learn the power curve.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
 
Yes, there are ways to automatically extend battery life. But, they are not typically available in consumer level laptops. For instance, the Lenovo Thinkpad models have an app named "Power Manger" which cycle the battery charge level to prevent the battery from sitting at 100% charge all the time. Does it work? YES! We built some pre-release Windows 7 test machines and ran them for 6+ months before Lenovo had a Win7 version power management app and as shortly after we re-imaged them with the released version Win7 image with power management the batteries were immediately flagged as being in need of replacement with ~60% charge capacity. Other laptops of the same age that have always run with power management were still fine with >80% charge capacity. Same thing occurs when we have self proclaimed power users who disable the power management apps, their batteries die faster than anyone else..........

From what I have been told the main killer of laptop batteries is people who run them dead periodically thinking they are preventing memory issues. Laptop batteries don't have memory since they stopped using NiCads. Running them dead kills them the fastest!


Thanks Scott. You learn something new every day. I've always thought it's a good idea to run your battery completely dead from time to time then let it charge all the way up to reset it's memory. D'Oh

I'm surprised Windows 7 doesn't build in the kind of battery management that Leveno has. Guess they sell more computers if consumers think dead battery = time for a new computer.
 
Not to mention the mark up for replacement as well as the cable power blocks. Didnt it ever make you wonder why one end of the cable going into your computer is hard wired to the block but the wall plug side can be unplugged?
 
If the manufacturers don't have an application that does this, is there an application an end user can purchase to optimize battery life? $30 for an app is far less than $120 for a battery.
 
If the manufacturers don't have an application that does this, is there an application an end user can purchase to optimize battery life? $30 for an app is far less than $120 for a battery.

You just answered your own question Steve... ;)

Why would a battery manufacturer want their battery to last forever? No repeat sales...

It's capitalism at its finest :)
 
You just answered your own question Steve... ;)

Why would a battery manufacturer want their battery to last forever? No repeat sales...

It's capitalism at its finest :)


The people who might create an app don't have be the same people selling me batteries, do they?

Softjock could do it! :tribiggrin:

YOU could be the answer to the battery people. Help people and profit while doing it... THAT'S capitalism at its' finest!
 
Hmm....I don't think I have ever used a notebook not plugged in! I have actually taken the batteries out of all but the DJ computers.

What is the benefit in removing the batteries?

I hardly ever use my laptops without being plugged in. It is nice in the few instances I need them to run off battery for a small period of time.
 
What is the benefit in removing the batteries?

I hardly ever use my laptops without being plugged in. It is nice in the few instances I need them to run off battery for a small period of time.

I can list at least one drawback.... without a battery if you lose power to your rig you have to wait for the computer to reboot and pray there are no errors.
 
I can list at least one drawback.... without a battery if you lose power to your rig you have to wait for the computer to reboot and pray there are no errors.

Problem is (as has been mentioned ad nauseum above), if you leave the battery in all the time while plugged into AC, it will fail when you need it... ;)


Think of it like your arm -- if you just let it sit on the couch doing nothing for 6 months, then ask it to pick up a sledge hammer -- it will fail, due to lack of use.

You have to exercise it, to keep it in shape.
 
Problem is (as has been mentioned ad nauseum above), if you leave the battery in all the time while plugged into AC, it will fail when you need it... ;)


Think of it like your arm -- if you just let it sit on the couch doing nothing for 6 months, then ask it to pick up a sledge hammer -- it will fail, due to lack of use.

You have to exercise it, to keep it in shape.

That makes sense if we are talking about NiCads.... It's my understanding that this shouldn't be an issue with modern batteries.... is this not true?
 
That makes sense if we are talking about NiCads.... It's my understanding that this shouldn't be an issue with modern batteries.... is this not true?

That's correct -- it is not true. I bear firm witness to that via experience with two brand new lappys over the last 6 months.

The batteries are almost worthless now, because I left them plugged in all the time.