"Groupthink" or....

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Deejay Dan said:
He wasn't banned, he is free to login and private message but cannot view the forums.

Now, before everyone gets all worked up. It's only until the staff here figures out which way to move next.
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Well, we certainly can't just block people out whenever they don't melt in. There are many of my arch enemies from that other forum that have come here to post. For the most part, I have done my best to welcome them and attempt to wipe the slate clean. They know what this place is about coming in. Even though they might be coming to kick some dust up, it will eventually settle (if we allow it).

I get as angry as the next person, but they will never understand where we're coming from if we don't take them there.

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Dan you know I have total respect here for the Mods (see I even used caps) I just don't feel blocking Mr Merry is the best way to deal with this he should be just as welcome as anyone besides a good soup has items that by themselves may be bitter but put them all together and as Emeril says Bang!
 
Thank you Hank & Barry, your opinions are noted. :) Truthfully, it's out of my hands there is a vote going on in the moderators forum if the censure should be permanent or not. The poll ends tomorrow, what ever the results are I'll abide by them.

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Personally, since Peter came here it's been one train wreck after another. We try to keep this place as friendly as possible, I've taken notice that our regulars are logging in but not participating as much, more than likely they're just trying to stay out of dodge.

The goal here is to be an open forum but we cannot have that if a few want to rule the roost by yelling the loudest. I don't want this to be a forum where the loudest voices is all that's heard, if we turn into that, we misewell just fold as it's an exact copy of what's already available.

On the other hand, if we start banning people just for being different we become an exact copy of another forum and thus useless.

It is a delicate balance, one that even fellow moderators are having trouble finding. I have full confidence that we will find our niche and carry on with business. :)
 
Dan...
I just want to say that the main thing that irritates me on the boards is attitude, I can deal with the ego part, but it's the constant belittlement and sarcasm directed at those who don't accept a given version of reality that I get tired of. I don't like having to constantly "filter through" the crap to get to the information of value.

IF a person can't or won't speak here as an adult and agree to disagree in a civil manner, I have no problem with a ban for the sake of the board. I'm here because I got tired of the crap else where, and I won't be here if this board becomes like the others.
 
Doug,

I agree that bashing is not good in any form.

However, can the shoe not be put on the other foot as well?

Some, (not all) are just as quick to attack those that DO believe in being "worth" more and charging a higher rate for the services they provide.

Price charged, low or high, does not "guarantee" (used loosly) the failure or success of the event.
 
For me it just simply boils down to respect. Now I know that Hank(from Request Line) by his posts doesnt really do that much interaction. I on the other hand do a fair amount of interaction. Does this make either of us wrong? The end result is that we both have happy customers. Two different styles same result.

Now if you listen to "the camp" they seem to say that it doesnt matter what the result is, if your not charging the "professional fee". The problem is that people all over have a different view on the term professional. Personally I would rather do an outstanding job for my customers, charge a fair fee, one that supports my families lifestyle, we are not into big fancy just comfortable, but thats just me.

What it means is this. This is my business, my plan, my way of doing it. You do things your way, can we debate in a civil manner, the details, sure. But in the end lets show respect for each other, for what we do and accomplish. Dont tell me that what I do isnt professional by your standard or believe system, the voices in my head are different than yours.

As long as you or I have happy satisfied customers, and we are happy ourselves I truly dont see a problem. Its all about RESPECT
 
Thank you Hank & Barry, your opinions are noted. Truthfully, it's out of my hands there is a vote going on in the moderators forum if the censure should be permanent or not. The poll ends tomorrow, what ever the results are I'll abide by them.
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I don't think that anyone could ask for more than what the mods are doing here. They are handling it in a democratic way amongst themselves, after listening to what the member base has chimed in to them.

The needs of the many, far outweigh the needs of the few, or the one...


Now, if only we could get our government to work like that, I'd be a happy camper :sqbiggrin:
 
Dan McKay,

I am suprised at you, I thought you would be the first one with congrats to the Admin and moderators for close/deleting threads and blocking people from the site.

I mean damn son you were probably the best at it that I have ever seen. I mean you are god on Splat, and many times choose to shut up opinions rather than address them. What was that line you used on me..........

Oh yes.......... You do not question me as to what I do as a moderator, if I deem it then it is.

Yet here you are on a site you are not a moderator on and what do you do?

The same thing you deleted, censored, changed, locked and blocked so many others for. Ain't you special?
 
Dan McKay said:
A pity that Peter is no longer allowed to view threads or post.
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I have to agree there.

We may not ever find common ground in our business practices. However, I would like the chance to find some common ground as people. If we allow the time to let the water settle, we might get it.
 
DJFRED said:
judging by the last weeks worth of bickering and nonsense....it might be too late..:sqfrown:

Fred
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Many of the members of OUR DJ TALK are trying to prevent this. "It might be too late"; however, you are still here and you can make a positive difference.
 
DJFred & DougF : Hang in there, friends.

The thread degredation trends begin when the supporting data disappears and the inability to agree to disagree evolves into personal confrontations.

Said it before, and will say again. There should be a Forum Topic to the effect of "You Two Take It Here", strictly moderated to keep interlopers from chiming in. When a topic hits that inevitable mano e mano wall, transfer it there until it gets back on track. Party A, Party B and a mod. Dat's it.
 
Everybody,

We have a chat room. And we have PMs.

On the public forums, ALL we ask is that you refrain from name-calling and slander.

(ok, we ask a little bit more...but that's the basis)
 
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