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Okay, 3 things....

#1.) Once again, this was a sweet 16... It's not my every day wedding setup. I do a fair amount of weddings, but they don't pay as well as the type of events I'll be using this setup for. Why does everyone only think Weddings.. you're limiting yourself sooo much.. Weddings are not where the big money is... I think it's just probably where the biggest money you think you're capable of getting is...

#2.) Tell me how approachable you want to be from now on after one of the guests drops an entire plastic cup of merlot into your 2 week old $3900 Allen & Heath Mixer. I work 5-6 days a week all year long... most events include alcohol... at many, if there was not a barrier, I'd go postal.

#3.) When I'm DJing, I do not have the time to "shoot the breeze", I'm mixing... I don't use auto play or a play list during the thick of the night.. I want guests to respect my boundary.. I do not want them hanging around telling me about how they were a dj back in college...

Just an aside, But as many others have found, perception is everything.. I know that a pivotal point for me was when I stopped using the venue's tables, and brought my own rolling rack.. secondly, when I started using a facade, I got comments like "You're so much more professional than (insert other local dj name here) he just slaps a pile of gear on the table..."

I started getting corporate work out the ass, because I was the "More professional DJ" The venues commented on how no one else "went the extra mile", and how my presentation was so "Pro"....

One of my favorite responses is "Well, if DJ so and so were such a professional, he'd own a dedicated vehicle capable of transporting all of the necessary gear to provide such professional service."

True or not, I've just created an even greater distance in quality between myself and every other weekend DJ who rolls through the joint... Unloading The truck, and not the Caravan makes me look more "professional". I had a heating and air guy come to my house a couple weeks ago.. he drove a honda civic... I watched him like a hawk.. he might have been awesome, but he felt amateur. had he pulled up in a big truck, i probably would have left him alone.

There are no wires visible in my setup, nor equipment.. Everything is permanently mounted in cases, not afterthoughts like many guys with external drives sitting on the table in the open, laptops and power supplies strewn about all in a huge spaghetti maze of cables...

I offer all options to clients... I prefer to bring nothing but speakers to an event, as it's super easy to get in and get out. The first component of the event the client gets to choose is the facade...

4' black, 8' black, Glowing, or none...

In 6 years, I've never had a guest not want a facade.

Next is the speakers... I've got some nice equipment...aside from those with live sound needs, or college kids who want the "Mexican street festival" look of speakers on sticks, or stacks, Almost every customer chooses the Bose setup for it's appearance. I get referred on speakers alone...

Next, the client gets to choose lighting...

I have never had a client choose "T-bars or light stands" ever!
The most common complaint is that they're ugly. DJ skirts make them even uglier... I strive to remove stands from the equation altogether.. I want my setup to look more "Permanent" as opposed to looking like a rental system.

High end brides and corporate customers do not pay you big bucks to blend in.. they are hiring entertainment. you get one shot to get it right.. You have to play the right music, you have to say the right things on the mic, (and more importantly know the right things NOT to say on the mic)

To me (just my opinion here..) those who give excuse after excuse for why they don't want to stick out, or don't want to carry a facade, or don't want to do any number of things reeks of insecurity on the part of the DJ.

Most of the time, I'm event entertainment, not Muzak... They're gonna' know i'm there.. The customer is going to feel that they're getting their money's worth, and the guests will remember "that great DJ"

They would not have hired me if they wanted the guy with the 6' skirted table and the star ball....

Different strokes for different folks.

I guess my whole point is that you have to appear solid in all aspects of your business. When a guy who runs a 52 million dollar a year company knows he can just "Count on you", he'll call every time.. When Ludacris knows that you're the guy to call for his niece's birthday, He'll call.. When the city knows that you're the guy to call to get the fall festival done, the job is yours When CNN wants a DJ for their staff party who's not going to be an idiot around all of their on-air anchors, they'll trust you.

Fake it till' you make it... It doesn't matter if I ever use that setup again... That's a powerful picture on the front of my website that 99.9% of the other DJ's out there don't have...
 
Steve,
Next is the speakers... I've got some nice equipment...aside from those with live sound needs, or college kids who want the "Mexican street festival" look of speakers on sticks, or stacks, Almost every customer chooses the Bose setup for it's appearance. I get referred on speakers alone...
Oh, you didn't just go there.:sqerr: But you are 100% correct.

It's sad that someone offering such wonderful advise and great new innovated ideas needs to explain themselves. I think it's just that some people are stuck in the "typical DJ" mind set. You have surpassed that and have raised the bar for those who invite change. I've learned more from you in this last post then many of those hack seminars at these DJ shows. Thank you, and I mean that.

You now just make more work for me.:sqwink: As I look to expand my game show ideas I now have something to run with.
 
Okay, 3 things....

#1.) Once again, this was a sweet 16... It's not my every day wedding setup. I do a fair amount of weddings, but they don't pay as well as the type of events I'll be..............................................................................Fake it till' you make it... It doesn't matter if I ever use that setup again... That's a powerful picture on the front of my website that 99.9% of the other DJ's out there don't have...

Steve, this is the best post I have read in a long time. Thank you. I have already spent a couple of hours today trying to figure out how you have done what you have done. I think it is awesome and I think my brides will feel the same as well as other clients. Sometimes we get paid to blend in, sometimes we get paid to stand out. Knowing the difference is why we get PAID, what we get PAID.
 
Where in Steve's original post did he say he uses this set up for weddings? I think it's awesome that he puts such a big effort into his set up. Bride and Groom's in the NY, NJ area would pay in the $2000.00 range for that kind of a set up and up lights.

There is a significant difference between the posted rig than a DJ that shows up with a laptop, mini mackie mixer and 2 speakers. The Bride and Groom will still get all of the attention.
 
I hope you do realize though that the severity of some of the stuff I say is just my way of hammering home a point... I don't really think every non-bose setup looks like a mexican street fair... that was just a fun poke... :sqwink:

I don't think I'm raising any bar, I'm just not afraid of trying new scary ideas... some work, some really suck... but the point is for all of us to not do what someone else has already beaten into the ground, but to do something different...

I mean, by the time someone makes a seminar out of it, and packages their book or DVD, it's already been worn out by those in the know...

I mean, who knows... those big dancing wind sock guys might be your next big dollar add-on for weddings...

have you seen anyone else do it? why not? the guy with the stones to try it might just find that he's found an easy way to add an extra $500 to his event...

Most will just say it's a stupid idea though, until everyone is using them, then it'll be a mad scramble to catch up and buy theirs, by which time, dancing wind sock guys will be out of style...

The point is.... Find your inner dancing wind sock guy (or something like that)
 
Hey Steve,

Nice work on thinking outside the box. I also offer what may be refferred to as a "Bling" style set up for some clients that may not work or be the norm for some.

What everyone needs to remember, is that there are people in the wedding world the want certain things, whether it be traditional or contemporary or elegant in look...or even relating to the services provided... I think it is the sole duty of the DJ to use his or her own expertise to select or design their setups or entertainment approach that may and should vary very much for each event based on the client.

Our "wedding" set ups typically range from 2 to 4 Plasma Tv's all set on truss towers with moving heads scattered around the room or all placed by our DJ booth, We can incorporate live musicians like the mentioned percussionist mentioned earlier in the thread ($650 + upsell, upon request from the client), and lighting is huge... it is our niche in our area which wouldnt work for many from a logistical or client perspective but it works well for us. Is what we do common across the nation, not yet... will it be, maybe, maybe not... What I am getting at is everyone does it different, and there are different strokes for different folks....

Whether you provide a simple setup or a crazy setup that takes 5 hours to assemble, there is alot to be learned from threads like this.

Keep it up!

jj
 
I don't think I'm raising any bar,
You may not think so but just look how many people you've just inspired.

the guy with the stones to try it might just find that he's found an easy way to add an extra $500 to his event...
Just talked with a local who has done just that. This kid has the stones and is not afraid to try. I watch him closely.
 
I used my I feel saying it was cool. Where did I say I think the Bride and Groom feel anything? I did however mention who the VIPs and spotlight of the occasion are. I built my system to take up less space. It would be ludicrous to now extend it back to the 6-8 foot table footprint. I marveled at the idea and five yrs ago I would have had one if I had discovered the concept or someone had presented it back then.
 
i went shopping today...

Super-Ultra-Mega.

I need to know how you built the screen for 21bones. I have a video board to do this weekend.

I found lycra at John Hancock Fabric for 12/yard. The best way I can figure to make the small panels is to sew a 'pillow case' slightly smaller than internal wooden frame and stretch it over, then fix a bigger frame to the outside of that and attach hinges.

Did you post to a wiki forum with more detail?
 
I mean, who knows... those big dancing wind sock guys might be your next big dollar add-on for weddings...

DAMN!
beat me to the punch on another great idea...
:sqlaugh:

WAIT A MINUTE!
dancing wind sock guys AND GIRLS.....
DRESSED UP LIKE THE BRIDE AND GROOM

EUREKA!
 
Okay, 3 things....

#1.) Once again, this was a sweet 16... It's not my every day wedding setup. I do a fair amount of weddings, but they don't pay as well as the type of events I'll be using this setup for. Why does everyone only think Weddings.. you're limiting yourself sooo much.. Weddings are not where the big money is... I think it's just probably where the biggest money you think you're capable of getting is...

#2.) Tell me how approachable you want to be from now on after one of the guests drops an entire plastic cup of merlot into your 2 week old $3900 Allen & Heath Mixer. I work 5-6 days a week all year long... most events include alcohol... at many, if there was not a barrier, I'd go postal.

#3.) When I'm DJing, I do not have the time to "shoot the breeze", I'm mixing... I don't use auto play or a play list during the thick of the night.. I want guests to respect my boundary.. I do not want them hanging around telling me about how they were a dj back in college...

Just an aside, But as many others have found, perception is everything.. I know that a pivotal point for me was when I stopped using the venue's tables, and brought my own rolling rack.. secondly, when I started using a facade, I got comments like "You're so much more professional than (insert other local dj name here) he just slaps a pile of gear on the table..."

I started getting corporate work out the ass, because I was the "More professional DJ" The venues commented on how no one else "went the extra mile", and how my presentation was so "Pro"....

One of my favorite responses is "Well, if DJ so and so were such a professional, he'd own a dedicated vehicle capable of transporting all of the necessary gear to provide such professional service."

True or not, I've just created an even greater distance in quality between myself and every other weekend DJ who rolls through the joint... Unloading The truck, and not the Caravan makes me look more "professional". I had a heating and air guy come to my house a couple weeks ago.. he drove a honda civic... I watched him like a hawk.. he might have been awesome, but he felt amateur. had he pulled up in a big truck, i probably would have left him alone.

There are no wires visible in my setup, nor equipment.. Everything is permanently mounted in cases, not afterthoughts like many guys with external drives sitting on the table in the open, laptops and power supplies strewn about all in a huge spaghetti maze of cables...

I offer all options to clients... I prefer to bring nothing but speakers to an event, as it's super easy to get in and get out. The first component of the event the client gets to choose is the facade...

4' black, 8' black, Glowing, or none...

In 6 years, I've never had a guest not want a facade.

Next is the speakers... I've got some nice equipment...aside from those with live sound needs, or college kids who want the "Mexican street festival" look of speakers on sticks, or stacks, Almost every customer chooses the Bose setup for it's appearance. I get referred on speakers alone...

Next, the client gets to choose lighting...

I have never had a client choose "T-bars or light stands" ever!
The most common complaint is that they're ugly. DJ skirts make them even uglier... I strive to remove stands from the equation altogether.. I want my setup to look more "Permanent" as opposed to looking like a rental system.

High end brides and corporate customers do not pay you big bucks to blend in.. they are hiring entertainment. you get one shot to get it right.. You have to play the right music, you have to say the right things on the mic, (and more importantly know the right things NOT to say on the mic)

To me (just my opinion here..) those who give excuse after excuse for why they don't want to stick out, or don't want to carry a facade, or don't want to do any number of things reeks of insecurity on the part of the DJ.

Most of the time, I'm event entertainment, not Muzak... They're gonna' know i'm there.. The customer is going to feel that they're getting their money's worth, and the guests will remember "that great DJ"

They would not have hired me if they wanted the guy with the 6' skirted table and the star ball....

Different strokes for different folks.

I guess my whole point is that you have to appear solid in all aspects of your business. When a guy who runs a 52 million dollar a year company knows he can just "Count on you", he'll call every time.. When Ludacris knows that you're the guy to call for his niece's birthday, He'll call.. When the city knows that you're the guy to call to get the fall festival done, the job is yours When CNN wants a DJ for their staff party who's not going to be an idiot around all of their on-air anchors, they'll trust you.

Fake it till' you make it... It doesn't matter if I ever use that setup again... That's a powerful picture on the front of my website that 99.9% of the other DJ's out there don't have...


Soooo did you use lycra for the backdrop? :sqbiggrin:
 
no.. recycled corrugated greenhouse plastic. If you have a place near you that sells it, and a resale certificate so they'll give you an account, and sell to you wholesale, it's dirt cheap... If not, shipping will kill you!

That's what kept me from doing it for so long.. I couldn't source the materials at a decent price...

I now can also get ABS plastic, so My road case line should be popping off here in a minute!