Show of hands for Vista !??!
- Thread starter DJ Cam
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No hands raised here.
I don't buy new cars or new operating systems in their first release year.
Just too many problems to be worked out.
I don't buy new cars or new operating systems in their first release year.
Just too many problems to be worked out.
I was one of the suckers who bought a Pontiac Fiero in 1985...on April 1st. The date says it all! The novelty of that car wore out within a week, but it took me a year and a half to unload that piece of crap.
I may test out Linux on my laptop sometime, but for now the 98se works great. I mostly use it to watch movies anyway. Hmmm....maybe get another laptop to test out Linux...hmmm...does anybody know of any good resources about Linux???
I'm a proud geek and have an MCSA certification (M$ Certified Systems Admin). I still run Windows 2000 on my home system and XP Pro for my hosting system (and NT4 on my server at home). I've advised (warned?) three friends in the last week not to get Vista on new systems they're ordering. If businesses won't adopt for 12-18 months, why should a home user? The DRM issue concerns me. I haven't tested that part yet.
Just for the record, I work for a company that put the "blue" in "blue chip stocks" and we've been testing the Vista Enterprise version on the client side for the last two months. The Aero interface is pretty, but I think users will need to relearn Windows in a similar way that they had to make the change from Windows 3.1 to 95.
Just for the record, I work for a company that put the "blue" in "blue chip stocks" and we've been testing the Vista Enterprise version on the client side for the last two months. The Aero interface is pretty, but I think users will need to relearn Windows in a similar way that they had to make the change from Windows 3.1 to 95.
It's definitely a resource hog. I wouldn't recommend running Aero to anyone who has less than 1.5GB RAM, a 40GB hard drive for *just* the operating system (120GB+ for the OS and programs on the same drive), a CPU running a 2GHz core and a video card with hardware acceleration (most have it now) and at least 256MB VRAM.
Makes me embarrassed to think about my first computer - 486DX2-66 with 8MB memory, a 512MB hard drive and 1MB video card. And you had to have the blazing speed of that 14.4kps modem
Makes me embarrassed to think about my first computer - 486DX2-66 with 8MB memory, a 512MB hard drive and 1MB video card. And you had to have the blazing speed of that 14.4kps modem
You make me feel old kayleigh...
I started programming on an IBM 360, punched cards, no screen, and a line printer. Assembler, Cobol, Fortran and RPG. Compile a program, come back the next day to see if they ran it yet. De-bugging took a while...
My first computer was a TI, with 4k of RAM (optional cassette deck to save programs to). Hard drives didn't exist for us non-millionaires. I upgraded to a Commodore VIC-20!
Course, I still remember when the digital watch came out... :sqerr:
Damn, I'm not only old, but you folks should be thankful you have a screen (with color no less)
I started programming on an IBM 360, punched cards, no screen, and a line printer. Assembler, Cobol, Fortran and RPG. Compile a program, come back the next day to see if they ran it yet. De-bugging took a while...
My first computer was a TI, with 4k of RAM (optional cassette deck to save programs to). Hard drives didn't exist for us non-millionaires. I upgraded to a Commodore VIC-20!
Course, I still remember when the digital watch came out... :sqerr:
Damn, I'm not only old, but you folks should be thankful you have a screen (with color no less)
So what you guys are saying is if one goes the vista route having to relearn new windows why not learn Linux or even Mac.
I know what DRM is.... but what are the issues with it and Vista? I was about to get a new laptop with Vista on it.
Here Papa, this is a link that was posted earlier in this topic...this should explain it all...
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#e
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#e
Doug,
As I've mentioned before, I think open source is cool.
But, do you honestly think us software producers are gonna give away decent software?
It takes years of time, money and testing to develop reliable, well supported software. How do we eat, if you want open source, free software?
Do you DJ for free?
As I've mentioned before, I think open source is cool.
But, do you honestly think us software producers are gonna give away decent software?
It takes years of time, money and testing to develop reliable, well supported software. How do we eat, if you want open source, free software?
Do you DJ for free?
I don't expect anyone to give away anything. I HAVE purchased and use software directly from developers when they can have what I want. I have no problem with that.
I do believe in the collaboration model that is taking place in Open Source, granted I may not pay $$ for the software, but I take part in the process either testing or helping to promote it or peer supporting it.
But I also know that because of this type model I know that I will not get updates unless I go out and get it if there is one. I know my only support will be thru peer support forums with no 800 number to call. I will not get a fancy printed manual nor discs in a fancy box.
I would gladly pay for digital DJ/VJ DMX software if it was offered in Linux and it served my needs. Just because something is open source doesn't mean you can't make a buck from it, look at Red Hat or Mandriva I have used both but because I don't like RPM package management I ended up with Debian.
I do believe in the collaboration model that is taking place in Open Source, granted I may not pay $$ for the software, but I take part in the process either testing or helping to promote it or peer supporting it.
But I also know that because of this type model I know that I will not get updates unless I go out and get it if there is one. I know my only support will be thru peer support forums with no 800 number to call. I will not get a fancy printed manual nor discs in a fancy box.
I would gladly pay for digital DJ/VJ DMX software if it was offered in Linux and it served my needs. Just because something is open source doesn't mean you can't make a buck from it, look at Red Hat or Mandriva I have used both but because I don't like RPM package management I ended up with Debian.
I tend to agree. Open source is a great initiative because so many developers are working on one program in their spare time, most still have day jobs.
One cannot expect professional developers to spend time learning how to code for Linux, writing the software, bug hunting, then maintaining a repository for it, then writing updates, and fielding tech support. All for nothing. As Rick says, they have to eat too.
If a team were to work on Linux DJ Software in their spare time, it would be more apt to happen, but then again how many Linux developers are interested in creating DJ software? Especially with the state of audio support in Linux.
As for paid Linux software: I've found consumer level programs aren't the best. For instance, MailWasher has a version specially packaged for kUbuntu, yet try installing it and their are dependency issues. Email their support and it's evident they don't know what they're talking about.
I commend commercial companies porting to Linux but from a $$ standpoint, why should they, when 90 something percent of the world computers run Windows?