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ok i have afriend that is selling his gemini speakers.. and wanted to remove the horn and baskets and replace them with peavey black widows and horn, can this be done? before i pick them up..great deal for them 350 for the pair and in great conation too.. heres a pic of them..let me know

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jaime
 

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Well.. I'm sure the drivers can be replaced with Peavey, Eminence or B&C drivers. I'm not so sure if the cost of the new drivers would be worth it.

Reason I say this, most cabinets are tuned to sound their best with the drivers they're originally loaded with. :)
 
T Bone,

While it can be done and made to sound pretty decent, I have done a pair for a friend of mine. It would really be cheaper just to purchase another set of speakers already built, and I will explain why:

1. the crossover in the Gemini box consist of two resistors (that is it) no chokes, nothing else!

2. the five piezo twitters are crap to begin with and the horn driver is just another piezo twitter!

3. as Fred mentioned the box will have to be retuned (well actually it isn't tuned for any frequency to begin with)

So what will you need to make it work?

1. A crossover, but not just any crossover, you will need a decent three way crossover that that is capable of handling a minimum of 750 watts at a 4 ohm load, there are several but none of them are cheap (think in the range of $100 +)

2. You will need a new horn that will support a decent HF driver (if you are going with the Peavey) look for a horn that will take a 1 3/8" threaded unit. Around $80 each!

3. look at the XT22 around $80 each.

So unless you already have all of these items not counting the LF drivers you are looking at roughly $520 to convert the pair!

You can go on E-bay and pick up a used Pair of Peavey SP4's for around that money! and save your self a lot of work and headaches!

BTW $350 is not a great deal for a pair of Gemini speakers, $50 is not even a great deal for a pair of Gemini speakers!

If you are really interested in having a pair of Peavey's spend you money on these they will probably go for less than 400 for the pair replace the scorpion drivers for BW's and you have a decent set of speakers!

http://cgi.ebay.com/TWO-PEAVEY-SP5-...66:2|39:1|72:1205|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
 
Guess I should have used the term "designed" instead. :D

Steve is right, that row of piezo drivers is useless. And replacing all that stuff with professional drivers may cost more than a decent pair of full-range cabinets already made.

No matter what you do to re-engineer it, it's still a Gemini cabinet. ;)
 
This reminds me of when I was young and bought some old cars thinking I could fix them up and make something good out of them. I found out that you're better off just buying a better car. $350 for a pair of Geminis is no big bargain unless they're active and even then it's still not a bargain. There are better deals on better audio equipment on craig's list or ebay. I've seen pairs of Yamaha S115V speakers go for $350 or less and they eat Geminis for lunch. Don't waste your money on cheap crap that is cheap for a reason. Pros don't use Gemini they use Electro Voice, Yamaha, Peavey, FBT, RCF and other respected audio brands.

I saw a guy on another board bragging about his Kustom speakers and it cracked me up. He thought they were the bomb. Hardee har, har . . .
 
The Wizard Of OZ said:
This reminds me of when I was young and bought some old cars thinking I could fix them up and make something good out of them. I found out that you're better off just buying a better car. $350 for a pair of Geminis is no big bargain unless they're active and even then it's still not a bargain. There are better deals on better audio equipment on craig's list or ebay. I've seen pairs of Yamaha S115V speakers go for $350 or less and they eat Geminis for lunch. Don't waste your money on cheap crap that is cheap for a reason. Pros don't use Gemini they use Electro Voice, Yamaha, Peavey, FBT, RCF and other respected audio brands.

I saw a guy on another board bragging about his Kustom speakers and it cracked me up. He thought they were the bomb. Hardee har, har . . .
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Actually in it's day the Kustom roll and pleat guitar stacks were the ****z!
 
I hear you Thunder, but have you seen ANY pros that use Kustom brand speakers lately? Not taking about guitar cabs, pro audio speakers. If Kustom speakers were so good I imagine lots of DJs would be using them and touting them.
 
By the way, I love bargains. But I look for bargains on stuff that is quality gear to begin with. I got an old pair of Peavey 115s on craig's list for $65. I got a Peavey PV1500 power amp on craig's list for $140 that needed to be opened up to clean out the dust and fiddle with the On/Off switch. A pair of used Geminis for $350 is nothing to get excited about.
 
Many speaker system makers offer an entry-level line. The marketing for these things is more toward beginners than anyone else.

Starter equipment is understandable when one can't afford the good stuff yet. And not everyone starting out can afford the good stuff. That's why you see it for sale used. People are moving up the equipment ladder and selling their entry-level gear. :)
 
I would think if you did all that and the first time you cranked them up, the cabinet would blow apart because, as has been said, they are after all Gemini's....
 
Thunder said:
BTW $350 is not a great deal for a pair of Gemini speakers, $50 is not even a great deal for a pair of Gemini speakers!
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Easy there, Steve. I recently made a discovery about Gemini speakers. Several months back I had an emergency ( read theft). I had to work that night, and ended up pulling out some old Geminis from "the early days".

Luckily for me, this was my smallest venue, and "low volume preferred" restaurant.

What I found out was that though they are known for sounding like crap when driven ( and they do), at lower volumes they actually had a very nice rich sound. You just can't crank them.

None which changes the fact that you're right on regarding just buying new speakers. Cabinets are made for what's in 'em. I make speaker mods all of the time ( usually 2 way to 3 way), but I have a pro do the cabinet work.
 
Sometimes you may have to depend on junk to get you by but it is still junk!:sqwink:

I am only going by what is inside the cabinets (and I have been inside them):sqerr:
 
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