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SoftJock Rick

SoftJock Rick

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I wanted to try out the latest version of Nero, since I've been using an older OEM version for some time now, so I decided to try their latest -- V9.something.


Big mistake! :sqerr:

First off, almost 400 MB download (370, but who's counting). That took about an hour.

Install took about 45 minutes :sqeek:

That was the easy part...

My nice new, high tech computer, slowed down to a crawl after install and a reboot. Sound cards (internal and external), randomly stopped working, and required a reboot when they did, to get them working again.

All I did, was rip and play one song, just to try out their latest efforts.


So, since the computer was hardly responding at all anymore, even after a couple reboots, I decide to un-install it. That took almost 45 minutes!


Anyway, do yourself a favor, and stay away from it, as it is complete bloatware at this point, and basically a wasted 1/2 day plus on my part, just to try it...

Too bad, as their older versions worked nicely, and I used it to burn lots of CDs and DVDs.
 
Sooo... if I have 8 I don't want to do 9.... got it...

Thanks...
 
IE7 blew up my Pinnacle program... Took out IE7 and I haven't let Windows update anything other than security since Never did get Pinnacle running right again. I can't do any updates or it quits working.
 
Shirl said:
IE7 blew up my Pinnacle program... Took out IE7 and I haven't let Windows update anything other than security since Never did get Pinnacle running right again. I can't do any updates or it quits working.
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IE7 Sucks, IE8 uses about 8x more resources, is slow, and has no real purpose! At least IE7 has a visual appearance upgrade over IE6.
 
I have IE7 by default on my new Vista machines -- works fine -- although I prefer Firefox. FF doesn't work well with my IP cameras, so I use IE for them.

One thing I've noticed, is that FF 3.x, works much better on Vista, then it does on XP...

FF memory doesn't get eaten nearly as fast on Vista, as it does on XP, and it hasn't crashed yet on Vista :)

I haven't been able to crash Vista 64, even with some of my own weird code -- it's like the energizer bunny, just keeps trucking along in high gear... :sqcool: :sqbiggrin:
 
Nero was one of the first burning programs I had. I hated it. I always got a lot of errors and ruined countless cd's. I use to get all these stupid messages like the file may be corrupt and it refused to burn it or kicked it out due to an error. Then I got cd creator (roxio) and all of these problems disappeared.
 
SoftJock Rick said:
I have IE7 by default on my new Vista machines -- works fine -- although I prefer Firefox. FF doesn't work well with my IP cameras, so I use IE for them.

One thing I've noticed, is that FF 3.x, works much better on Vista, then it does on XP...

FF memory doesn't get eaten nearly as fast on Vista, as it does on XP, and it hasn't crashed yet on Vista :)

I haven't been able to crash Vista 64, even with some of my own weird code -- it's like the energizer bunny, just keeps trucking along in high gear... :sqcool: :sqbiggrin:
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I guess its the opposite with XP. On all of our XP machines, IE7 takes significantly longer to load the program, and to connect to the internet. When you load, it sits at a white screen and won't go to any websites for a second until it loads the home page.
 
Brian said:
I guess its the opposite with XP. On all of our XP machines, IE7 takes significantly longer to load the program, and to connect to the internet. When you load, it sits at a white screen and won't go to any websites for a second until it loads the home page.
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Probably, the key thing to remember here, is IE7 and beyond -- were designed for Vista, not XP!

In order to run new software (designed for a new OS) on an old OS, the software has to implement a thunking layer. In layman's terms, just think of thunking layer, as backward compatibility.

That means they will usually work, but not nearly as robust as they would on the platform they were designed for.


Here's a good example of that...


Rockit is now being designed on Vista 64 bit machines. It is being optimized for those machines. It will run fine on 32 bit versions, and also XP. But, it is optimized now for 64 bit Vista, since that will be the OS in most use, for the next 5-7 years.


My analogy:

If you choose to launch a space shuttle from the back of a mule team, you will get some sorta results -- but if you put it on a nice, new launch pad, you will probably get into space... ;) :)
 
Brian Martin said:
Nero was one of the first burning programs I had. I hated it. I always got a lot of errors and ruined countless cd's. I use to get all these stupid messages like the file may be corrupt and it refused to burn it or kicked it out due to an error. Then I got cd creator (roxio) and all of these problems disappeared.
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Do you have Nero and Roxio on the same machine??? I was told I couldn't run Roxio on my PC with Nero do to conflicts between the two programs....
 
Brian Martin said:
Nero was one of the first burning programs I had. I hated it. I always got a lot of errors and ruined countless cd's. I use to get all these stupid messages like the file may be corrupt and it refused to burn it or kicked it out due to an error. Then I got cd creator (roxio) and all of these problems disappeared.
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I don't know what I had for burning CDs at first, but I do know that Roxio was the first program I had that did a pretty good job.

Also, I do remember that Memorex CDs almost never burned right.... Back then it was TDK only for me.
 
Those Memorex CDRs were premade coasters. It was too easy to chip the top layer (label side). I never had much luck with 'em. We're using Verbatim silver CDRs now.

I actually preferred the old version of Roxio CD Creator for vinyl projects. The interface was easy to understand and the artwork printing was simple to use. And it had a very nice vinyl recording utility that was definately user-friendly. You could isolate parts of your track down to the milisecond to remove a scratch or a pop in the vinyl.

Roxio took more time to create a project because it first made a HDD image that the user could then burn to CDR. It was like recording your project twice. Then you had to manually remove the image from your HDD if you didn't need it. Those CD images sucked up HDD space. They'd remain there 'til you deleted them.

Nero is much faster as it records the source to the RAM, then burns to CDR. It doesn't use the HDD. But Nero's interface is a whole nother learning experience. It's not as easy and user-friendly as Roxio. For CD burning I'll stick with Nero because it's much faster and doesn't wear out the HDD. For vinyl recording, Roxio gets my vote.

But them's just my experiences. :)
 
Shirl said:
Do you have Nero and Roxio on the same machine??? I was told I couldn't run Roxio on my PC with Nero do to conflicts between the two programs....
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It will work in XP as long as you remove the IN CD portion of Nero. I worked on a friends machine not that long ago that had that problem...Made his DVD drive disappear and at first wouldn't boot except in safe mode. It took me a while to figure out the problem but when I did I ended up removing Nero completly from that machine
 
New Launchpad?

SoftJock Rick said:
My analogy:

If you choose to launch a space shuttle from the back of a mule team, you will get some sorta results -- but if you put it on a nice, new launch pad, you will probably get into space... ;) :)
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Nice try at an analogy but the "new" lauchpad you cite was built in the mid '60s. To phrase it another way, it was built at mid point of man's experience with flight, almost fifty years ago.

Some of out "new" stuff is getting a bit long in the tooth.
 
Shirl said:
Do you have Nero and Roxio on the same machine??? I was told I couldn't run Roxio on my PC with Nero do to conflicts between the two programs....
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No Shirl, I got rid of Nero when I bought Roxio. I have read numerous times they will conflict. Anyway, I still have Roxio. It is user friendly and plenty fast enough for me. Never a problem.
 
Papa Deuce said:
I don't know what I had for burning CDs at first, but I do know that Roxio was the first program I had that did a pretty good job.

Also, I do remember that Memorex CDs almost never burned right.... Back then it was TDK only for me.
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Your mention of Memorex cds brings back some unpleasant memories. I bought some of them and had all kinds of problems with them. I also had some cd-rw that wouldn't erase. Long story short, I call memorex. The guy tells me I have to format them first. I told him I wasn't going to do that and that I already have a bunch that were ruined due to whatever. He said to send them back. They sent me 10 more to replace the bad ones. They didn't work either. I then moved to Imation blanks. Problem solved.
 
I have v8 portable working fine here

no affects at all

no install what so ever
 
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