"Get Low" Radio Edit
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I can say the same for all except BLITZKRIEG BOP, though I have a feeling that I might play it at a wedding on August 23. Enter Sandman is VERY popular at many of my events.
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Yep. We can editorialize all we like, but a hit is a hit (regardless of our personal "standards" or views), and if the client wants something, isn't it up to us to deliver?
To an extent...I think we should show some common sense in our song selection, especially at a wedding.....or middle school......especially given the theme of certain songs.....
I'll play the Rodeo Song and I kissed a Girl before Get Low......
Let's not go there again.....
I'll play the Rodeo Song and I kissed a Girl before Get Low......
Let's not go there again.....
It's all Ducky's fault. I mean, how dare she talk about looking for GET LOW? Well, as long as she doesn't play CRAZY, by Gnarls Barkley, or RUNAROUND SUE...
Ducky,
this thread brings back some bad memories.
about 5 years ago, Allie & I were doing a teen dance at a local church (Allie was 12 but could pass as a 16 year old at the time).
"Get Low" was requested: I told the person sponsoring the dance (an adult) that the song was INAPPROPRIATE for a church dance--- even the edited RADIO version --- because the song is degrading to women.
To my surprise, she made me play the song! I told her: "We are NOT going to play any dances for your group again!" (Allie was very disgusted by the whole thing)
I HATE HYPOCRITES.
The dance was at a friggin' CHURCH.
end of story!
Many times, I have thought about "Yelping" that church, and telling my story to the people of the community where the church resides.
(I know that would have resulted in whomever runs the teen group to be FIRED)
this thread brings back some bad memories.
about 5 years ago, Allie & I were doing a teen dance at a local church (Allie was 12 but could pass as a 16 year old at the time).
"Get Low" was requested: I told the person sponsoring the dance (an adult) that the song was INAPPROPRIATE for a church dance--- even the edited RADIO version --- because the song is degrading to women.
To my surprise, she made me play the song! I told her: "We are NOT going to play any dances for your group again!" (Allie was very disgusted by the whole thing)
I HATE HYPOCRITES.
The dance was at a friggin' CHURCH.
end of story!
Many times, I have thought about "Yelping" that church, and telling my story to the people of the community where the church resides.
(I know that would have resulted in whomever runs the teen group to be FIRED)
I dont even think the issue is so much whether it should be played, that is just judgement based on where you are standing...
I think the ACTUAL issue is the futility of "cleaning" a song that has a theme such as that...I think editing the words and calling it clean is a joke.
I think the ACTUAL issue is the futility of "cleaning" a song that has a theme such as that...I think editing the words and calling it clean is a joke.
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Yes, I believe that we should be sensitive to the audience we're performing in front of, and I have different views on what to play, including content issues, depending on the audience.
The "clean" version of "Get Low" has been played on the radio (to death), as has "I Kissed A Girl". I'm not aware of "The Rodeo Song" ever having received much airplay - I'll presume you play a version that omits the profanites.
At this point, they're all "clean" but have varying content issues. Why are you cool with the latter two, but not the first one?
You brought it up! :sqerr:
Point taken.
Steve - not to get it this again....It's not OK to play a harmless song with the f bomb and pecker in it, but OK to play a song that is degrading and disrespectful and just plain vulgar to women, because you "cleaned" up a few words...
It might be clean and shiny on the outside....but in reality underneath that shine; it is what is is.....
I wouldn't play the Rodeo song......I think though in terms of the theme and message; it's fluff compared to songs like Get Low, Lollipop and the infamous Crank Dat..
But that's just my opinion.....
It might be clean and shiny on the outside....but in reality underneath that shine; it is what is is.....
I wouldn't play the Rodeo song......I think though in terms of the theme and message; it's fluff compared to songs like Get Low, Lollipop and the infamous Crank Dat..
But that's just my opinion.....
It seems to me that everyone on here is thinking in terms of these newer songs and the themes they hold. Let me ask you this...a song that most of us play (on a fairly frequent basis, I'd guess) is just as bad at making women into objects...AC/DC "You Shook Me All Nite Long."
"She told me come but I was already there"
"She told me come but I was already there"
****... i must be in trouble
all these songs listed are lik eon heavy rotaion in my books
The Rodeo Song
Gin & Juice
Closer
who really cares about the lyrics
we're all here to have a good time
btw - glad you found your radio edit
all these songs listed are lik eon heavy rotaion in my books
The Rodeo Song
Gin & Juice
Closer
who really cares about the lyrics
we're all here to have a good time
btw - glad you found your radio edit
I think there is a difference in a song that might be risque versus a song that is offensive.....becuase of the theme. I won't play Crazy B*tch at a wedding unless specifically asked by the client, neither will I play Get Low, Crank thta, Lollipop....just like I typically don't play We are Family, or the Chicken Dance. If I can avoid any of these songs, I do...So far no issues. The same holds true with Katy Perry.
I have played it as it was specifically requested ...but would I if not...no
We've had a lot of discussions in the past as it relates to these songs and their play-ability at middle school and high school events, where I think we owe it to the client to be more selective.
Me personally; I don't buy this; "I'm the Dj; I just play the music...or "If it's good enough for radio, it's good enough for me" philosophy.
i feel we have more responsibility....
Again that my opinion.....
Music Guy,
First of all, this is for a wedding reception, not a middle school dance. By the time I'd be hitting up this stuff, it will be after the young children have gone home (reception doesn't start until 7pm).
Second, are you saying that you will not play songs like "You Shook Me All Night Long" by AC/DC or "Pour Some Sugar On Me" by Def Leppard?
And finally, what's wrong with "risqué" songs and who really considers them an issue (other than you)? As far as offensive songs are concerned, that's clearly not as much of an issue with the clients, so why should it be an issue for you? If it's such a huge moral dilemma for you (and this goes out to all the other DJs here), don't take the event.
First of all, this is for a wedding reception, not a middle school dance. By the time I'd be hitting up this stuff, it will be after the young children have gone home (reception doesn't start until 7pm).
Second, are you saying that you will not play songs like "You Shook Me All Night Long" by AC/DC or "Pour Some Sugar On Me" by Def Leppard?
And finally, what's wrong with "risqué" songs and who really considers them an issue (other than you)? As far as offensive songs are concerned, that's clearly not as much of an issue with the clients, so why should it be an issue for you? If it's such a huge moral dilemma for you (and this goes out to all the other DJs here), don't take the event.
I understand where people are coming from with the themes in music being offensive, degrading, risque, etc. Here's how I see it.
What is hot right now isn't very good music, nor does it clean up well at all. Regardless the fact is that's what is on the radio now. Along with that, not everyone listens to "safe" music, that's why there's so many different kinds of music out there. One universally accepted expectation of a DJ is they have to know and be able to play what is currently hot.
Do I like the fact that middle and high schoolers are going around singing "Crank Dat," no, but the fact is they do and it's not my responsibility to teach someone else's kid what is wrong and what is right. If a kid's parent lets them listen to the likes of Soulja Boy and Lil' Jon without explaining to them what the stuff actually means, not my problem.
I see my responsibility as a DJ in two parts, play what they want to hear (even if I don't like it) and to show people songs that they may never find thanks to the current state of the music industry.
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To illustrate my point above. When I was 15, I purchased a Twisted Sister cd from a music club and half of the album was live. My dad and I listened to it and once it went to the live tracks, it got pretty vulgar in some points. So, my dad took the cd and told me that I was too young for that. When I turned 17, he gave me the cd back and said I was old enough to make my own decisions on what I listen to.
Moral of the story, we're not these kid's parents...make the parents be parents.
What is hot right now isn't very good music, nor does it clean up well at all. Regardless the fact is that's what is on the radio now. Along with that, not everyone listens to "safe" music, that's why there's so many different kinds of music out there. One universally accepted expectation of a DJ is they have to know and be able to play what is currently hot.
Do I like the fact that middle and high schoolers are going around singing "Crank Dat," no, but the fact is they do and it's not my responsibility to teach someone else's kid what is wrong and what is right. If a kid's parent lets them listen to the likes of Soulja Boy and Lil' Jon without explaining to them what the stuff actually means, not my problem.
I see my responsibility as a DJ in two parts, play what they want to hear (even if I don't like it) and to show people songs that they may never find thanks to the current state of the music industry.
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To illustrate my point above. When I was 15, I purchased a Twisted Sister cd from a music club and half of the album was live. My dad and I listened to it and once it went to the live tracks, it got pretty vulgar in some points. So, my dad took the cd and told me that I was too young for that. When I turned 17, he gave me the cd back and said I was old enough to make my own decisions on what I listen to.
Moral of the story, we're not these kid's parents...make the parents be parents.
not really, that's similar to one of my best wedding reception dance sets:
MY HUMP --> PUSH IT --> BGB (X-mix)
hey, whatever the B/G want, I'm willing to play.
my daughter Allie was never treated this way. I can remember her learning all the words to "The Real Slim Shady" (unedited) when she was 10. I let her listen or watch anything she wanted to!
being exposed to the vulgarities never affected her (valedictorian, varsity athlete, about to attend University of Cal)
However, she was taught that certain things are SACRED (like houses of worship), therefore a dance that is conducted on Church premises should have a higher degree of tactfulness in song selection.
As a HS senior, Allie wrote a very literate article (in her school paper) about "Grinding" and that students should refrain at PROM.
To her surprise, the number of students grinding at prom was greatly diminished at her Senior prom, compared to the one her Junior year.
Anna -No need to get defensive...you've expressed your opinion...I, mine
I can't remember the last time I played YSMANL or Def Leppard...Baby got back...if it's requested....I will play the others if the client wants...otherwise I avoid them....
There is a difference beween Crazy B*tch, Get Low and Def Leppard...imho..just look at the lyrics....
I'm not getting defensive...just don't like to hear about DJs being unhappy because they're playing music that's against their better moral judgement. I think it's better to take events where you're going to be happy working - might make for a better event.
