Are they REALLY iPODS, and WHY? -not a debate thread.

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GrayWolfOlka said:
....My biggest gripe with the iPod though is the inability to create or modify playlists on the fly.
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I guess it depends on your definition of "creating a playlist on the fly" because you CAN use the "on-the-go" feature which is essentially just that. You can scroll through your songs until you find a song you want in the "on-the-go" playlist...hold down the middle button for about 2 secs...and viola! That song is added into your on the go playlist. You can add as many songs to it as you want but you must add them in the order you want them played because you can't edit it.

Now if you are already playing a song from the on the go playlist, that song will just be added and the sucker will just keep playing through it...
 
My first mp3 player was one of the first generation iPods. I bought it when iPod was the only mp3 player available.

My current player is the iPod video version. It came free when my wife purchased her current computer - a Macintosh purchased at an Apple store. We've both been Apple/Mac fans for quite a while.
 
Well. from what I've read so far, not too many of you do "iPOD Weddings" :sqwink:

Most of you seem to use other brands, and it seems to be with good reason ( as I figured it would be).

There also doesn't seem to be a clear favorite. Coby, Sansa, Zune, i Pod, etc... - all in the mix.

......And if a 2 gig Coby can hold 500 MP3s ( or, I thing 1000 WAVs), that puts the iPod biggie ( 80 gig) at around 20,000 MP3, but that doesn't include graphics. Now you know why MP3 players aren't feasible for Karaoke. :sqwink:

Anyway, I appreciate all of the input- I learned BUNCHES. :sqcool:
 
Joe -

I'm confused.

In your initial post, you simply wanted to know what brand. Not necessarilly why, and didn't even ask if we were using them AT ALL while DJing.

What is it you are REALLY asking?



JoeChartreuse said:
Now you know why MP3 players aren't feasible for Karaoke.
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Why not? I don't know about other brands, but the video iPod WILL play Karaoke tracks, and DOES have an external video connector.

Mind you I'd never do it, but it CAN be done.

If you want to know HOW we are using the mp3 player in our shows, that's another subject. But my answer is this:

A - As a backup.
B - For wedding ceremony music source. (Does that make me an iPod Wedding DJ?)
C - For cocktail hour music source.
 
DJ Teddy Bear said:
Joe -

I'm confused.

In your initial post, you simply wanted to know what brand. Not necessarilly why, and didn't even ask if we were using them AT ALL while DJing.

What is it you are REALLY asking?


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Teddy, I can't blame you for asking. The original post really WAS what I was questioning. It's just that I picked up enough from the answers that I had learned enough to ask more, and got sidetracked. My apologies.


As for karaoke, what I was pointing out was that there really isn't enough capacity. The 80 gig MIGHT hold 20,000 MP3 tracks, but that's not including graphics, which eat up a LOT of memory. Not to mention that video output from a player can be VERY iffy. Also, regulating their (mixing) for karaoke can be um, a bit tricky. I HAVE tried it. They might "work", but in practice
they just aren't worth it- and this statement isn't just my "MP3s are icky" thing. Remember, I DO run PCKJ/DJ for small home parties. Even the PC is superior

....and as you can see, it IS easy to get sidetracked. This really wasn't supposed to be a debate on usage, just a question regarding brand preference and why. I DID get the answeres I wanted. It's ok by me to close the thread before a debate ensues....
 
No problem.

Of course, there's a big difference between 'yeah, the product technically can do it' and 'I'll be trying a variety of other things before I let myself get to the point where I have to use the product in that manner.'
 
I have small iPod and 20Gb Maxian that i use as a back up.I prefere Maxian because its simpler to work with and to load music.It have a bigger screan and Computer reckognize it as ext.disc-so no softwere needed to load music on it-just copy-past.iPod can not be loaded without iTunes so its a lot easyer to work with Maxian.Hmmm i realy dont remember when i was using the iPod!?!?
 
The Sansa 8 really does seem to be a great value in regard to price comparison.

Since I have a Coby, I had no idea that iPods could ONLY be loaded with iTunes software. Generally speaking, that alone would be a major drawback.

I say generally, because I'm certain that it COULD be loaded using DOS, which is how I load or copy ANYTHING due to much higher speed than windows.

In my case for instance, I just click on the DOS icon. Once in, I type cd\ which puts me in the root directory. Then:


cd\documents and settings\my music....assuming My Music is where you store your tracks. If not, (like me) you would probably have to type cd\program files\proper directory. Go to THAT directory.

Then I just plug into the USB port and type Copy C:*.* E: Done, and WAY faster than Windows, with no software problems.
 
JoeChartreuse said:
...I had no idea that iPods could ONLY be loaded with iTunes software. Generally speaking, that alone would be a major drawback...
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Not really.

Since the general public is NOT computer savvy, this integration goes a long way to making it easy.

After all, without iTunes, how is the typical consumer going to rip CDs or purchase music?
 
DJ Teddy Bear said:
Not really.

Since the general public is NOT computer savvy, this integration goes a long way to making it easy.

After all, without iTunes, how is the typical consumer going to rip CDs or purchase music?
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Bear, I'm not sure if you're just goofing around here? :sqerr:

There are a gazillion programs for ripping and downloading out there? ...and i Tunes is probably the only one that gives me any problems! :sqlaugh:


The "computer savvy" statement is more dead on than you think. I can't tell you how many so-called "experts" out there are really only conversant in Windows. Hell, a LOT of them aren't even AWARE of the DOS shell on their drive, much less how to use it. This is a real shame because DOS is far superior to Windows in many areas, even for the average consumer!
 
djMarco said:
Sansa?
I must google this.They dont sell the thing over here.
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Sansa.... good stuff.
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DJ Teddy Bear said:
Not really.

Since the general public is NOT computer savvy, this integration goes a long way to making it easy.

After all, without iTunes, how is the typical consumer going to rip CDs or purchase music?
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www.mediamonkey.com

I have lots of my friends - non DJs - using this.
 
JoeChartreuse said:
Bear, I'm not sure if you're just goofing around here?
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Papa Deuce said:
www.mediamonkey.com
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Joe, Papa -

I'm totally serious.

The average consumer wants something that works, out of the box without problems.

Sure, there may be better programs out there, but will an average user be able to recognize the difference, or even recognize a need to investigate if there's something better?


Papa -
I don't think I've ever heard of MediaMonkey before. What are the chances a typical consumer would have heard of it?


Joe -
You've had problems with iTunes? Any chance you created the problem yourself?


For the record, iTunes is the only CD ripper I have ever used. The iTunes Music Store is my only download source.
 
DJ Teddy Bear said:
Joe, Papa -

I'm totally serious.

The average consumer wants something that works, out of the box without problems.

Sure, there may be better programs out there, but will an average user be able to recognize the difference, or even recognize a need to investigate if there's something better?


Papa -
I don't think I've ever heard of MediaMonkey before. What are the chances a typical consumer would have heard of it?

Joe -
You've had problems with iTunes? Any chance you created the problem yourself?


For the record, iTunes is the only CD ripper I have ever used. The iTunes Music Store is my only download source.
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It's easily downloaded from many sites. I tell anybody who metions iTunes to check it out. It is simple to use, though it has tons of options. It is free for the basic version and $20 for the Pro version.

Mamy of us on this site swear by it.
 
DJ Teddy Bear said:
Joe, Papa -

I'm totally serious.

The average consumer wants something that works, out of the box without problems.


Joe -
You've had problems with iTunes? Any chance you created the problem yourself?


For the record, iTunes is the only CD ripper I have ever used. The iTunes Music Store is my only download source.
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Bear, even the average consumer has "right out of the box" alternatives.

I started out using Napster ( the softwre is free) and still prefer this software for my consumer/personal use. ( Keep in mind that Napster pretty much INVENTED this stuff) Amazon is also available. I actually get what music I download from them, and then transfer it to PCKJ/DJ or Napster depending on my use for it. I prefer the consistancy, no DRMs, and their download rate is perfect. These two alone are as consumer friendly ( Napster certainly more so, in my opinion) as iTunes.

As for my software issues: I have found other XP users have had similar problems. Also, while
there is certainly a possibility that it may be other software on the PC which conflicts with iTunes, the point is that Napster and Amazon DON'T seem to conflict with anything.


I have also found that iTunes track info doesn't come up in my other programs ( Say, Napster, or Media Monkey, or PCKJ/DJ), Whereas the other the other sources track info comes up anywhere I put it.


As for Media Monkey: I have the free software that works fairly well for what it's supposed to do. I consider it the starting step up from the "consumer" software above. Never had a need for the Pro version as I already have PCDJ/KJ.

I haven't even mentioned Tyrannosoft & TriceraSoft, which many Karaoke Hosts swear by.
 
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