I'm curious to know how the California DJs are handling this

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I work in the gay press and I am given insight into industry stories and reports. The following is one of those:

FEATURE: California’s marriage gold rush: GLBT media in the Golden State just might strike it rich as couples legally wed
by Chuck Colbert

The numbers from California are staggering. More than 51,000 same-sex couples are expected to marry there over the next three years, according to a recent UCLA Williams Institute report. Add to that number an additional 67,000 marriages from out-of-state couples. Altogether, California's wedding industry will grow by approximately $684 million in direct spending and perhaps create 2,100 new jobs. At the same time, marriage equality would add $64 million in revenue to the state budget. For the marriage business, a new California gold rush is on.

All of which raises questions for California’s GLBT media. Will they see economic windfalls from increased advertising? Are they pursuing new sources of ad revenue? And what lessons can be learned from the groundbreaking experiences of Massachusetts and Canada?

California's same-sex marriage bonanza began on June 17, with wedding bells ringing statewide for same-sex couples. “This is a great opportunity to market the paper, opening up a whole new market to us for all kinds of businesses,” everything from cake decorators and jewelers, to hoteliers, clothiers, disc jockeys, and florists, said Michael M. Yama****a, general manager of San Francisco’s Bay Area Reporter (BAR). What's more, “We see San Francisco as a premier destination for gay marriage.” In part, that’s because California will be allowed to marry out-of-state couples. Massachusetts, on the other hand, is only permitted to marry couples living (or intending to live) in the Bay State.

Accordingly, his sales team has been “actively going after businesses,” he explained. “It's a symbiotic relationship. They see an opportunity to reach into the gay market. Now it's easy for them, when before they never thought of reaching out to us.”

Take jewelers, for instance, never before a big market for BAR advertising. Yet, weeks prior to legal gay wedlock, the paper had several ads from jewelers. “Two were not even in the city,” Yama****a said, but from the East Bay.

Not to be outdone, San Diego has gay-marriage destination appeal, too. As sales manager Frank Lechner of the local Gay & Lesbian Times explained, “We're out talking to wedding planners, tuxedo places, bridal shops, and jewelers about anything that has to do with putting on a wedding.”

In one case, the Evans Hotel placed an ad in the paper for wedding venues, which included the tag line, “It's about time.” The hotel has also pledged a portion of its wedding revenues to defeat a potential November ballot referendum regarding a constitutional amendment seeking to ban same-sex marriage.

Meanwhile, in Los Angeles, “Calls from wedding planners, people who bake cakes, and hotels are off the charts.” said David Stern, publisher of Los Angeles-based Frontiers. So far, “No requests for announcements.” But that may change as Stern prepares for a wedding section. “It will be a combination of announcements and a marketplace for services.”

Similarly, news editor Cynthia Laird said BAR is designing a wedding planner section, a newspaper insert – plus a marriage feature on the Web – that will include wedding announcements.

Just as the same-sex marriage bonanza boosts California's economy, a sense of political urgency continues. As Frontiers’ Stern is quick to point out, “Our reporters are not taking their eyes off the ball, the ballot referendum. There will be constant reporting on that.”

Initial GLBT media coverage focused on the California Supreme Court's landmark decision granting equal civil-marriage rights in the nation's most populous state. Next, news stories told how to get married, explaining the procedures of getting a license, which varies slightly by county. With the advent of legal gay wedlock, GLBT media turned the spotlight on the joy of married lesbian and gay couples.

“GLBT media can cover this story in a way no one can,” said Cathy Renna, managing partner of Renna Communications, which works with GLBT media and organizations. “No matter how good a job mainstream media does, to get the inside story, the community piece, or the more nuanced [coverage] – as always – go to GLBT media.”

Bob Witeck of Witeck-Combs Communications, a marketing and public relations firm, said that the economic effects of California same-sex marriage will likely be felt far beyond the state’s borders. “What's interesting are expenditures outside the state.” As couples come to California to marry, “they cannot always fly the whole family and guests out there. They'll fly back and celebrate at home.”

Witeck thinks wedding industry vendors will be eager to move on same-sex marriage and do so quickly. “There is absolutely no downside to [GLBT media advertising], only an upside,” he said. “They want to be perceived as gay friendly, welcoming and helpful.”

Sue O'Connell, co-publisher of Boston-based Bay Windows, couldn't agree more. “The wedding industry is more than happy to advertise in and support the gay press.” O'Connell estimates that her publication netted a $100,000 windfall of increased ad sales revenue during the first year of same-sex marriage in Massachusetts (2004) and about $250,000 over the next three years. None of the advertisers were national, she noted. It was all local and regional.

Early on, Bay Windows partnered with the Freedom to Marry Coalition of Massachusetts to produce their same-sex wedding planner, which generated a quick $25,000 of new ad revenue.

The additional revenues enabled Bay Windows staffers to make a strong commitment to coverage. As O'Connell explained, “It was going to be about securing and making same-sex marriage legal in Massachusetts, covering it at any cost. That was our major investment, and the revenue from vendors in the marriage business funded it.” Overall, she said, “It was one of those never-to-be-duplicated-again moments.”

Nonetheless, the Canadian GLBT press experience holds a sobering lesson. “There was a lot of speculation that the change in marriage laws would see an increase in certain kinds of advertising,” said editor in chief and publisher Brandon Matheson of Xtra, based in Toronto. “That certainly did not translate into the pages of our paper,” even though the sales team targeted specific wedding industry businesses. Additionally, Xtra introduced a short-lived one-page sales feature, called a “Celebration of Life,” that included wedding announcements.

Canada legalized marriage equality nationwide in 2005, but same-sex marriage had become lawful in the province on Ontario two years earlier. “There was no substantial increase in advertising related to what we would call the marriage business – jewelry stores, limousine services, caterers,” said Matheson. “Those sorts of clients were already advertising.”

Are you guys reaping the benefits yet? If not, are you actively marketing to this market?
 
Honestly for me I have no problem with gay people. But I don't agree with gay marriage being the same as normal marriage. This is just my point of view and not up to arguments. But my wife and I have talked about this. We are going to do everything we can, to not do theses.

I know many would say that it's stupid on our part, then so be it. I feel that you should live your commitments in life in your actions. If other DJ's choose to do these and yes I have done them before. And when I did I felt that it went way outside my religious beliefs.

If you want to do them, then more power to you. I hope you make tons of money and wish you the best. This is just my feelings not forced on anyone else.
 
Honestly for me I have no problem with gay people. But I don't agree with gay marriage being the same as normal marriage. This is just my point of view and not up to arguments. But my wife and I have talked about this. We are going to do everything we can, to not do theses.

I know many would say that it's stupid on our part, then so be it. I feel that you should live your commitments in life in your actions. If other DJ's choose to do these and yes I have done them before. And when I did I felt that it went way outside my religious beliefs.

If you want to do them, then more power to you. I hope you make tons of money and wish you the best. This is just my feelings not forced on anyone else.

Thank you for your honest opinion. If it weren't called "marriage" would your opinion be different?

If it's purely a religious thing...."Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" thing, I totally understand.
 
Thank you for your honest opinion. If it weren't called "marriage" would your opinion be different?

If it's purely a religious thing...."Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" thing, I totally understand.


Purely religious, Nothing else I have a few gay friends and my brother was gay. I have been around gay people all my life. I do feel their pain. I just have to stand on my own convictions that's all.
 
I'm going to presume that there will be a spike in wedding vendor bookings as gay couples make their way to the altar. Remember, the year after WWII ended saw a huge uptick in weddings.

It will likely taper off once the rush recedes. If vendors are savvy they'll get aboard this bandwagon while it's rolling.
 
Wait a minute. We here in MA started this whole damn thing. :sqwink:

Anyone has the right to give anyone anything they own. They have the right to say "he or she" will be my partner in life, handle my finances, comfort me when I'm sick, and decide when to pull the plug. I know my wife is holding onto the cord with her foot.

However, that is not called a marriage in the traditional sense. In a perfect world the way nature (or God) intended it was that only a man and women can make babies together. Under the eyes of my God only a man and women can be married.

Now, if the majority of the people in any given state says that a man and a man or women and another women or a man and his penguin can be legally married under the law of that state then so be it. But that wasn't the case here in MA.
 
Wait a minute. We here in MA started this whole damn thing.
Yeah but MA restricted gay marriages to couples who either live in MA or plan to move there. As I understand it, CA is open house so to speak. Gay couples do not have to reside in CA to be eligible.

If memory serves, some states have passed legislation that requires the state to recognize marriages between a man and woman only. I believe DE was working up such legislation recently but I don't know if it went anywhere.
 
Working on my Gay folder...:sqlaugh:

I'm not a gay, but let me ask you some questions...
How do we you know what is right and wrong?
How do we you know our your point of view is true?

I'm catholic and there is a lot of gay priest in Ontario... How do you explain this?

Wonder what is their point of view on the gay wedding:sqerr:
 
Before we go further...

Folks,

I'd like to take a moment to remind everyone that this is not a debate about our opinions of right or wrong. It's not a theological discussion so don't try to read one into it, please. Unless I missed something, Fuzzy did not ask for religious opinions in this thread.

It's a simple question about wedding DJs in a market where legislation has offered opportunities for another market.

Just keep this discussion on topic. That's all I'm askin'. :)
 
being in California and even here in BC I assume I play at a wedding that has a wedded same sex couple in attendance occasionally. Much much worse people and really not knowing the skeletons in my clients closets or the parents who either will be paying me in support of this event. I would be foolish to try and investigate far enough to be sure my hands were clean from anything I dont necessarily believe in.

When providing my services Im simply providing a service. If I wanted to exclude folks with beliefs I dont agree with I may as well put my money in a jar and move to the mountains as Im likely going to associate one way or another with this situation being around people. Is it only appropriate I dont have a part in life if I know the setting and the people. I play for folks who dont drink, until recently I did. I play for folks who are vegetarian, and I eat meat. I might even be playing for a criminal and not even knowing it.
I choose to play for my client without having to go so deep into their history to make sure Im only playing for those with my beliefs ( I recently did a ceremony where it was resided over by a Buddhist monk. With some thinking I likely should have opted out of the ceremony.
But I digress, its how I see it and do as I see fit in client choosing. Yes I have performed at a same sex union and reception.
 
Honestly for me I have no problem with gay people. But I don't agree with gay marriage being the same as normal marriage. This is just my point of view and not up to arguments. But my wife and I have talked about this. We are going to do everything we can, to not do theses.
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Just out of curiosity, what does your, or any, DJs philosophy on marriage have to do with anything? You're not part of the marriage, you're there to DJ an event, which is, I believe, your profession? After the wedding is over you go home, and the couple get on with there lives. Done.

I no longer accept weddings, but when I did, and was living in Virginia, I made a bundle doing bi-racial weddings, because many down there wouldn't.

I believe that when one chooses a profession, one should act professionally. If one is a DJ, then one should do what they can to build that business and good relations. Spending time thinking about what consenting adult strangers do behind closed doors is not only counter-productive, it's ( IMHO) a little weird.


Personally, I would rather do an event for a pleasant gay couple than hetero Bridezilla and Groom Kong ( the type, incidentally, that made be stop accepting weddings...).
 
what folks do in their private lives doesnt make a diff to me. Just because I wouldn't have any interest in another man sexually, doesnt mean that someone else who does is any worse or better than I am. Pay your taxes, work for a living, walk every other aspect of your life like a law abiding citizen, and I have no problem with what you do otherwise.
And the religious community, especially the catholic faith, should be hiding under beds right now with the entire scandalous crap they have been exposed with. All these years, these hypocrytes, fought against gay rights religiously while at the same time, staunchly hiding pedophiles in churches all over the country, in the guise of priests. Shameful act.
So, I would not only welcome the business, but aggressively pursue it. And wouldn't apologize to anyone for my actions.
IMHO the real question in my mind, is , why the heck do we only party at weddings? I think I am ready to start advertising "divorce parties". I mean come on, for some, you know they are jumping up and down to get out of a marriage, would THAT be a conflict of interest? Heck, would it be bad taste to make a "divorce card" and offer it to the bride and groom after their wedding? Or would it be more appropriate to send it with the anniversary card a year later?
OK Ok OK, enough of my tongue in cheek comedy, not trying to hijack a thread here.
Final Word: We as human beings get so worked up over things we cant control, sexuality being one of them, I say, lighten up, have fun, you will smile more when you do, and that smile will become infectious. Soon others will be smiling and before you know it the whole world will be smiling and hugging and having se.......oh heck, here I go again with the tongue in cheek again.......
 
To answer your question, I do many Commitment Ceremonies but that I have seen an increase of bookings because of the new wave of weddings, I cannot say. I advertise to some extent but it has not made a difference.
I guess most of the Weddings happening are up north or in the San Francisco Area itself.

Now to add to the other comments, I do all sorts of weddings, to me race, religion, sexual preference, language barrier, etc... does not make a difference, I'm fluent in 3 laguages and can understand and read 2 more, therefore I have a very open market to serve, I do this because: # 1 I love music, # 2 I help people celebrate their special occasion. Whatever beleif they may have, religion or sexual preference does not stop them from celebrating and who am I to judge other people.

DJFuzzy,
Do you have any suggestions?
 
I've gotta say that I'd be all for DJing these events. I think it opens up a lucrative market to embrace. If I were DJing in California, I would be more than happy to take these events off the hands of other DJs. :sqcool:
 
Just out of curiosity, what does your, or any, DJs philosophy on marriage have to do with anything? You're not part of the marriage, you're there to DJ an event, which is, I believe, your profession? After the wedding is over you go home, and the couple get on with there lives. Done.

I no longer accept weddings, but when I did, and was living in Virginia, I made a bundle doing bi-racial weddings, because many down there wouldn't.

I believe that when one chooses a profession, one should act professionally. If one is a DJ, then one should do what they can to build that business and good relations. Spending time thinking about what consenting adult strangers do behind closed doors is not only counter-productive, it's ( IMHO) a little weird.


Personally, I would rather do an event for a pleasant gay couple than hetero Bridezilla and Groom Kong ( the type, incidentally, that made be stop accepting weddings...).

So everything is just business to you and your personal philosophy in life has no bearing on any job you will do for any client? After all, the Bridezilla is a client along with Groom Kong. Your philosophy about those kind of clients directed you to not do Weddings anymore. In that respect, why can't a DJs philosophy about Gay marriage direct them to play at one or not?
 
I started a thread on this a month or two ago. A professor at Duke University called and wanted to book and before he did he said "do you have a problem with doing gay marriages" and i told him that the last time i checked they used American money... thats it

Also as a young pup I was a resident at "The Buzz" in dc which was a huge rave at the now parking lot of the nationals, capital ball room, Raves in big cities like dc would constitute 1000-1200 per night, yes in the club.

Id say a very large number of partyers at "The buzz" were of some alternative lifestyle if not just weird j/k

kyle