What is a "real D.J."

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That simply doesn't go far enough.


If you make it what you want it to be and end up whining that the public doesn't respect you as a "DJ" - then that's a clear example of being un-real.

I am talking about what the public or the clients wants it to be!

It doesn't really matter what a bunch of overblown egos want it to be!

If you are not what they wanted you to be it is your own fault!
 
"To get labelled as a Disc Jockey - you either have a tangible entertainment service or a marketable skill set. Without one or the other you're just one more person with a record collection."

MAN, if I had a dime for every time my potential clients said THAT!...
 
But to clarify it for everyone, A real DJ is what an individual wants it to be, ...perhaps the guy spinning vinyl, ...!

pfff...that's retarded
 
That's insensitive.

"The sensitivity or insensitivity of a human, often considered with regard to a particular kind of stimulus, is the strength of the feeling it results in, in comparison with the strength of the stimulus. The concept applies to physical as well as emotional feeling."

Since I didn't get a stimulus check -- am I retarded...? :sqlaugh:
 
"The sensitivity or insensitivity of a human, often considered with regard to a particular kind of stimulus, is the strength of the feeling it results in, in comparison with the strength of the stimulus. The concept applies to physical as well as emotional feeling."

Since I didn't get a stimulus check -- am I retarded...? :sqlaugh:

No, but I just read that quote, and now I'm retarded.
 
" ....is the strength of the feeling it results in, in comparison with the strength of the stimulus. The concept applies to physical as well as emotional feeling."
I thought you were non-PC ?
 
I thought you were non-PC ?

I didn't write that crap (note the quotes, as per Bry). I grabbed it off of Wiki-Something -- sue me, I'm bored today, and getting over the poison ivy stupid stunt.

No wonder I'm having flashbacks to Woodstock :sqlaugh:
 
Poison Ivy? You didn't think they were dock leaves did you Rick???? OUCH!
 
I am talking about what the public or the clients wants it to be!
So if the client wants someone to babysit an iPod or PC, and that's about the limit of the individual's skill-set they are by self-defining virtue a real DJ?

On the contrary - I think most people recognize that simple role to be consistent with any lay-person, not a real DJ.
It doesn't really matter what a bunch of overblown egos want it to be!
At a personal level sure, you can have "DJ" mean anything you want it too and find those people to whom you can cater. But in a professional business-to-business exchange where a quantifiable skill set is required you need a resume that distinguishes the real side of you from the hoard of other self-proclaimed DJs.


I think the height of an overblown ego is to believe one can supplant broad based real DJ skills with self-invented singular titles like "wedding director" etc. and that no-one will notice that "specialist" really means "limited" capability.
 
Rick,

I love singing Elvis songs at gigs to old ladies they are so cute!
 
A good dj plays the music that the people want to hear. A great dj knows what the people want to hear.
 
What is a "real D.J." --- My thoughts...

and who decides how this is defined?

Not everyone here will agree with, but that's OK.

I have been in the Mobile Disc Jockey business for a very long time. When I started back in 1978, Mobile DJs were similar to bands in the sense that there was a Leader (Mix Master: Beat Matching/Music Blending), a backup DJ (assistant), a Master of Ceremonies (MC), Lighting Engineer (Manually Controlled the light show) and Roadies (or crew). A DJ Group with a fancy name (we were TELEX in the 70s, then TERRESTRIAL II early 80s and finally DJ TIME from late 80s to today). Most of the DJ groups were a team, it was all about providing the best sound system and spectacular light show and having the best Mix Master on your group - thats how Mobile DJs were - back then. We handled private and public events.

In the 90s these massive DJ groups began to break up, mostly because everyone and their mother wanted to be a DJ. So, instead of using SR Systems, individuals favored PA Systems. Gone was the need for concert truss and heavy speakers. New DJs began to focus on having powered speakers with T-Stands for compact lighting, equipment became more affordable. Bed Room DJs, Rap music, sampling music from studio DJs and underground raves changed the perception of a professional DJ.

Older guys were now being trusted to do private parties. Therefore wedding DJs no longer had to put on a big show, just offer plenty of music without mixing or blending techniques - like today - let the computer do it for you (in most cases). Don't get me wrong, I am all about modern technology but I'm against the lazy DJ. It seems that there is no more effort, what happened to reading the crowd? Where is the party experience? The club style atmosphere that the DJ needs to create? Gone. Replaced by one lonely DJ hiding in the corner playing music that he likes, with his 2 or 3 never changing lights.

The good thing is that 3 years ago many of us decided to bring back the big systems and the large light shows. In Los Angeles we have Ultimate Crave, Constant Force, HRF, Pegasus Musique and Time Sounds & Lighting pushing the mega systems. We are doing our own club style promoted parties like the old days... Disco, Free Style, Funk, Old School, New Wave, etc. along with Private Parties, Weddings, Sweet 16s, etc.

Along the way, we have influenced a lot of NEW and OLD mobile DJs to think big. Put on a show and be part of providing true entertainment, provide music from the 40s, 50s, 60s to today... Jazz, New Age, Big Band, Rock'n'Roll, Disco, R&B, Blues, Funk, Latin/Spanish hits.... and have fun with it.

Not sure what it means to be a "Real DJ" since it means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. For me it's about having a passion for what you do and helping others along the way. Let me remind you, these are my thoughts, my views, my opinion and my experience that I share with you.

For more information regarding DJ TIME
http://www.TimeSounds.com/

Our wedding service web site
http://www.BigWeddingDJs.com/

Videos from past events, public and private
http://www.YouTube.com/grafxnrg
 
Not everyone here will agree with, but that's OK.

I have been in the Mobile Disc Jockey business for a very long time. When I started back in 1978, Mobile DJs were similar to bands in the sense that there was a Leader (Mix Master: Beat Matching/Music Blending), a backup DJ (assistant), a Master of Ceremonies (MC), Lighting Engineer (Manually Controlled the light show) and Roadies (or crew). A DJ Group with a fancy name (we were TELEX in the 70s, then TERRESTRIAL II early 80s and finally DJ TIME from late 80s to today). Most of the DJ groups were a team, it was all about providing the best sound system and spectacular light show and having the best Mix Master on your group - thats how Mobile DJs were - back then. We handled private and public events.

In the 90s these massive DJ groups began to break up, mostly because everyone and their mother wanted to be a DJ. So, instead of using SR Systems, individuals favored PA Systems. Gone was the need for concert truss and heavy speakers. New DJs began to focus on having powered speakers with T-Stands for compact lighting, equipment became more affordable. Bed Room DJs, Rap music, sampling music from studio DJs and underground raves changed the perception of a professional DJ.

Older guys were now being trusted to do private parties. Therefore wedding DJs no longer had to put on a big show, just offer plenty of music without mixing or blending techniques - like today - let the computer do it for you (in most cases). Don't get me wrong, I am all about modern technology but I'm against the lazy DJ. It seems that there is no more effort, what happened to reading the crowd? Where is the party experience? The club style atmosphere that the DJ needs to create? Gone. Replaced by one lonely DJ hiding in the corner playing music that he likes, with his 2 or 3 never changing lights.

The good thing is that 3 years ago many of us decided to bring back the big systems and the large light shows. In Los Angeles we have Ultimate Crave, Constant Force, HRF, Pegasus Musique and Time Sounds & Lighting pushing the mega systems. We are doing our own club style promoted parties like the old days... Disco, Free Style, Funk, Old School, New Wave, etc. along with Private Parties, Weddings, Sweet 16s, etc.

Along the way, we have influenced a lot of NEW and OLD mobile DJs to think big. Put on a show and be part of providing true entertainment, provide music from the 40s, 50s, 60s to today... Jazz, New Age, Big Band, Rock'n'Roll, Disco, R&B, Blues, Funk, Latin/Spanish hits.... and have fun with it.

Not sure what it means to be a "Real DJ" since it means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. For me it's about having a passion for what you do and helping others along the way. Let me remind you, these are my thoughts, my views, my opinion and my experience that I share with you.

For more information regarding DJ TIME
http://www.TimeSounds.com/

Our wedding service web site
http://www.BigWeddingDJs.com/

Videos from past events, public and private
http://www.YouTube.com/grafxnrg


That's just another type of DJ. The solo mobile DJ has been around for just as long. You can't tell me that my dad was the only one DJing private pool parties when he was in his twenties! ;)

(Note: He started DJing in the mid-70s and he was in his mid-20s.)
 
That's just another type of DJ. The solo mobile DJ has been around for just as long.
True, the size of the show isn't really the issue.

It's the size of your personal tool box, from your basic music knowledge, to your creativity, and finally your business sense.

Too many DJs claim to be all about the dance floor - but lack the basic music skills necessary to support a real dancer.

I think if you gave a quiz, 2/3 of today's mobile DJ crowd would not know why the numbers 32 or 16 are significant, could not define syncopation, or explain the difference between pitch, tempo, and key.

Real DJ to me means you are still a very valuable and tradeable entity even without a single piece of gear. It means you're able to get paid for doing your thing - not just bringing the sound.
 
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