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Harry, the thing is, as exaggerated as the movie seemed to be, in many ways it's spot on and not exaggerated at all. Been to a fast food restaurant lately?

The movie's seemingly ridiculous exaggeration seems like it's about present day conditions and not a far stretch from reality as far as I'm concerned.
 
I'm a huge nonfan of Southpark. I know a lot of folks like it, but I can't watch it. I know they parody a lot of current events and pretty much nothing is sacred as far as the subject matter that they poke fun at. I do like Family Guy and Futurama.
 
The Wizard Of OZ said:
What I freely and copiously admit is that I don't know. I don't think anyone knows until they die.
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You're right. Not one of us will truly know till we die.

For me, I have faith that God is, theat Jesus died for the sins of all mankind, and that the Holy Spirit is our guide in this life. My faith is what allows me to cope with this world for without it I would feel empty and lost.
 
Wiz - I've basically had the same outlook you have for most of my life and basically still do today - but - your comment...

"I can't come close to being able to comprehend it, it makes my head want to explode thinking about it"

...when talking about the size of the universe is exactly my point. Perhaps we don't have the ability (afterall our brains are just a couple genes better than a chimps) to truly comprehend something as complex as God?!?!?!

When I look at it from that perspective and the fact that billions of people "believe" in one form or another, I wonder if there is more to this Jesus/God thing afterall that I'm missing?
 
I'm not a wiccan, that is ridiculous stuff.
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Now don't pick on Wicca too :sqerr:

I've been practicing Wicca for ages -- not as a religion, but as a commune with Ma Nature. It's not about "magic" in the common use of the term, although the rituals may seem that way at first. There's a great deal we can learn from Ma, and the rituals are more of a way to tune yourself in to that mindset, then a means to satisfy yourself...

It is actually very similar to Catholicism in a way, in that the rituals allow you to transcend from the daily human grind, and open your mind to possibilities.



Damn, next thing you know, you will be picking on Masons :sqconfused:
 
Stewie is the AntiChrist...Love the Family guy here Too. I find myself strangley aroused by Lois:sqeek:. The Star Wars Parody was Genious
 
I love nature, but I don't worship it, I appreciate the beauty of it and I enjoy the sensory stimulation of fresh air, sunshine, beautiful flowers and trees, a camp fire, tasty food when I'm hungry etc. I can understand the ritualistic worshiping of nature in the way you describe it Rick, in fact it sounds very appealing, but not as a religion. I may partake of the Rasta sacrament some time in the future when I'm out in nature, that sounds real fine, but I'm not a Rastafarian.

I don't think drugs are bad, I think a lot of people have trouble using drugs in moderation. For many people it's an enjoyable experience and they want that all the time, they can't control the urge and use drugs to the point where they can't function normally anymore. That's just human weakness, it's not that the drug is bad, it feels good, too good, that's the problem. The same goes for alcohol.
 
Ok, so Kris had the balls to admit that he agrees with some of what I have to say but he's a nice guy and I'm sure everyone here loves him, but I'm a nasty, angry, mean man because of the way I said the things I said, not what I said, it's the way I said them. That's utter nonsense. Someone else out there has some of the same thoughts and ideas as I do, imagine that.
 
I got no bone to pick with Masons, I don't think it's a religion anyways. I don't really know anything about Masons so they're safe from my ravaging. I try not to criticize things I know little or nothing about. I try to be fair in my criticism. But at the same time, why sugar coat everything including criticism? How about some honesty?

People will say:How do you like my new [business card, web site, logo etc.]? It's great, couldn't be better, fantastic{really it sucks but no one will say so}. Wow, I love your new haircut{what they're really thinking is you look like a freak}.

I will say that people at this place are honest and offer great constructive remarks to help each other most of the time from what I've seen. I really like this place, I guess I'm really screwed after this discussion. Oh well, not the dumbest thing I've ever done. Won't be the last dumb thing I do either.
 
Wiz,

I was out communing with nature and Faith (she had to take a dump), and I figured I'd ask the Lord about this conversation. He was a bit busy, but said he'd email me back, and when I came in, I found this...


Son,

Look at it this way:


-The man does not believe in God (me, for Christ's sake).

-The man does not believe in Santa Claus. :sqerr:

-The man loathes the Tooth Fairy :sqconfused:

-The man doesn't like alcohol.

-The man does not like drugs.

-He lies to himself everyday.


Think deep in your soul Son...



OMG -- It's Patrick Lewis behind the curtain :sqlaugh:
 
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Your bible says "Judge not lest Ye be judged". It's your book and your teaching, not mine. It also says not to hold anger in your heart somewhere. Instead of people being angry at me they should be praying for my salvation.

Well, I don't want to get too detailed, but lots of drugs have passed through my body in the good old days, I had loads of fun in college. I got no problem with drugs, I feel bad for folks who abuse drugs and the consequences they suffer because of it. :sqwink:

I think Santa and the Tooth Fairy are cute. :sqbiggrin:

I drink beer often and enjoy it in moderation because I hate when the room starts spinning and I vomit all over the place. :sqeek:

I'm more of a lover than a hater despite what you might think based on this discussion. :sqbiggrin:

Dude, that Patrick comment, you really know how to hurt a guy, this is the only rant I've had here. :sqfrown:
 
The Wizard Of OZ said:
Ok, so Kris had the balls to admit that he agrees with some of what I have to say but he's a nice guy and I'm sure everyone here loves him, but I'm a nasty, angry, mean man because of the way I said the things I said, not what I said, it's the way I said them. That's utter nonsense. Someone else out there has some of the same thoughts and ideas as I do, imagine that.
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Go back and read your posts Wiz. You continue to be judge and jury over the opinions of others. Hell, all I did was mention Wicca and you went on a rant about how stupid Wiccans are. You continue to judge others beliefs against your own and point it out to them. THAT is intolerance.

So yes, no one cares to judge your opinions, they care that YOU choose to judge THEIRS. THAT is not nonsense. I would imagine MANY here share your opinion, but choose not to ram it down anyones throat, or judge anyone for disagreeing with it.

How old are you man? Maybe it is my years that allow me to have some perspective here.

You have to let other people have a belief or opinion without holding them up to judgement.

We all will learn, it is NOT all about us. There is a bigger picture.
 
As I said before and I am saying it again cause this merry go round wont let me off. My thoughts are of tolerance and open mindedness. I think many of the belief systems in place are but a small part of the big picture. I could be wrong and openly admit that. Nobodys ideas about this are stupid. IF we can agree that we are and others views are fine this conversation can continue. Mocking, belittling and calling folks names by association isnt necessary and wont allow this to continue if redirection doesnt take place as the topic is like Toms Horse and no longer serves even the authors purpose.
 
The Wizard Of OZ said:
I guess I'm really screwed after this discussion. Oh well, not the dumbest thing I've ever done. Won't be the last dumb thing I do either.
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Not as far as I am concerned. Stating your opinion i never dumb ... well ... unless its a dumb opinion. :sqlaugh:

Couldn't let you pass with out one humorous swipe. Its all good.

Are we done? I hope not because I haven't had this good a religious debate since I was studying Theology.
 
The Wizard Of OZ said:
Your bible says "Judge not lest Ye be judged".
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Oh good. Unfortunately it is human nature to judge everyone on our own set of standards; therefore, everyone will be judged in the end. It is my firm belief that for most that judgment will be forgiveness.


The Wizard Of OZ said:
It also says not to hold anger in your heart somewhere.
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God has the power to forgive and forget. Man unfortunately has a problem with the forgetting part. There is always that slight remembrance of a trespass that was done oh so long ago that will be dragged out for ammunition in the future.

In the Lord's Prayer we say "Forgive our trespasses as we forgive those that trespass against us." Maybe it should say "Forgive and forget our trespasses as we forgive those that trespass against us and forget their trespasses."
 
Wiz - I don't know you at all; that being said...in the pasts, your posts are typically well-reasoned, well thought out and articulated...

In this post however...I picture you with the proverbial sledgehammer trying to kill a fly......I find many of your responses somewhat heavy-handed and seemingly very defensive...a lot of "your" this and "your" that.....

You obviously feel religion and a belief in a higher power is not what you believe....I appreciate that...No need to defend your position.....

just my 2 cents............
 
JT is right, I'm beating a dead horse and repeating myself. It would be nice if other people would participate, but I can understand their reluctance. They don't want to be mocked or ridiculed or ostracized like me.

I mock, I ridicule and I just can't help myself, I'm sarcastic and it's not the best way to interact, but I can't resist. It's like someone who loves sweets staring at a rich, moist chocolate cake, dripping luscious chocolate sauce topped with whipped cream. It's my sickness. I know that doesn't justify being sarcastic and mocking, I'm just trying to explain why I do what I do. I'm not saying it's right.

The best thing would have been for me to ignore this whole thing and not make a single comment. The problem is, I'm the person who sees the poppy seed between your two front teeth and I can't stand it, I have to tell you. I can't stand seeing someone's collar askew, I have to straighten it.
 
The Wizard Of OZ said:
JT is right, I'm beating a dead horse and repeating myself. It would be nice if other people would participate, but I can understand their reluctance. They don't want to be mocked or ridiculed or ostracized like me.

I mock, I ridicule and I just can't help myself, I'm sarcastic and it's not the best way to interact, but I can't resist. It's like someone who loves sweets staring at a rich, moist chocolate cake, dripping luscious chocolate sauce topped with whipped cream. It's my sickness. I know that doesn't justify being sarcastic and mocking, I'm just trying to explain why I do what I do. I'm not saying it's right.

The best thing would have been for me to ignore this whole thing and not make a single comment. The problem is, I'm the person who sees the poppy seed between your two front teeth and I can't stand it, I have to tell you. I can't stand seeing someone's collar askew, I have to straighten it.
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Methinks your perception is skewed. Wiz, I have a homework assignment for you...Please point out each post in this thread where someone has professed a lack of belief, or an "odd" or radical belief...then please show where they have been ridiculed or mocked or ostracized for it. THEN, please show the posts where you were mocked or ostracized.

...and there you have it.
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(140 posts in, 7 pages deep and still havent put my beliefs on anyone...LOL)
 
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