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They are still lightweight. Not as light as my 35 pound FBT MaxX 4a's granted, but lighter than my old 56 pound Peavey Impulse 500's which were quite easy to lift up onto stands.

The specs on these new EV's don't really impress me. They don't go very low which is probably why they can crank out a few extra dB. Also, the max dB is calculated, not actually tested live. I would much rather get the new FBT Hi MaxX 40a which weighs in at only 39.44 pounds if memory serves... 11 pounds lighters, better input section, more controls, stronger low freq. response, etc...

I would like to see the new EV go head-to-head 'live' against one of the 40a cab's or against a similar RCF cab, not this 'calculated' crap... One of the retailers put the 127dB RCF 310A's against a lowly 123dB FBT MaxX 4a and the 4a was the clear winner. Don't worry RCF guys, that was a 10 vs a 12 inch driver, the 322A beats the 4a! But then the FBT 10Sa sub smokes the RCF 705AS sub, go figure... The FBT seems hard to beat as far as the bass response goes. They use the lightweight B&C HPL woofers: http://www.amazon.com/tag/spl95-100/products
 
Steve,
I know you love your FBT's, but did you ever get a chance to hear the EV ZX5 passive cab? Well this is it's bigger brother. Trust me when I tell you I am not a numbers (specs) kind of a guy. This cab will put out some serious low end. I heard the zx5 powered by a qsc 3402 a year ago. It had plenty of headroom and the sound was awesome.
I will be heading to Sam Ash as soon as the EV arrives and I will bring some serious music to hear through them. I will keep you posted.
 
maestro said:
They are still lightweight. Not as light as my 35 pound FBT MaxX 4a's granted, but lighter than my old 56 pound Peavey Impulse 500's which were quite easy to lift up onto stands.

The specs on these new EV's don't really impress me. They don't go very low which is probably why they can crank out a few extra dB. Also, the max dB is calculated, not actually tested live. I would much rather get the new FBT Hi MaxX 40a which weighs in at only 39.44 pounds if memory serves... 11 pounds lighters, better input section, more controls, stronger low freq. response, etc...

I would like to see the new EV go head-to-head 'live' against one of the 40a cab's or against a similar RCF cab, not this 'calculated' crap... One of the retailers put the 127dB RCF 310A's against a lowly 123dB FBT MaxX 4a and the 4a was the clear winner. Don't worry RCF guys, that was a 10 vs a 12 inch driver, the 322A beats the 4a! But then the FBT 10Sa sub smokes the RCF 705AS sub, go figure... The FBT seems hard to beat as far as the bass response goes. They use the lightweight B&C HPL woofers: http://www.amazon.com/tag/spl95-100/products
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Steve - seems to me a 12" box SHOULD be lighter than a 15". Nevermind the fact the ZXA-5 has amp that is more than twice as powerful as the FBT MaxX 40a's.

As far as frequency response is concerned is the 50 - 20K 3 or 10db down from the average response? Is that with or with out the 3 band EQ engaged on the loudspeaker? Is that a full or half space measurement? It does not tell me here: http://www.fbtusa.net/4acs.html

When you did the comparison of the FBT vs. RCF did you actually measure the SPL's - if so, at what distance and weighting was used? If not, it is possible that you were perceiving distortion as SPL - this happens quite often. Did you make sure the two being compared were gain matched on the input? Too often I see A/B demos that were not done fairly.

I appreciate the fact that you like your loudspeakers - I am always happy to hear from people that are passionate about products that are often considered commodities.

If you are going to Mobile Beat, please feel free to bring your boxes along (or ship them) and I will be happy to demo the ZXA-5 next to it!
 
stogie said:
Just curious, how much for the FBT Hi MaxX 40a? Are they sold in the US?
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Best price... $999.00 delivered in the USA.

I would love to see the 40a head-to-head against the new EV. If the EV is so outstanding, why not post the actual dB ratings measured live? Don't get me wrong, I love EV, beautiful sounding and well built stuff. I remember demo'ing a pair of T-352 I think they were... Man, those were the best sounding full range cabinet I had heard up to that point, producing articulate highs and very strong bass.

With what I said above, I was strickly looking at spec's, weight and now price. Doesn't appear to be worth the coin. I don't doubt that the new cab is outstanding but for the price and weight, there are many options out there. If you see FBT at the show, why not challenge them and put your new 1000 watt cab against their lighter 750 watt cab and see how it goes. My sources said that in their warehouse, the new 40a by FBT beat the RCF active 15" cab no problem. I was not there for the demo but I have no reason to doubt them, as they sell both product lines and have no preference between the two. They simply tell it like it is.
 
maestro said:
If the EV is so outstanding, why not post the actual dB ratings measured live?[/I]
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Most manufacturers (EV included) post calculated MAX SPL because spec sheets like the ones you just referred to are not detailed enough to provide a meaningful measurement anyways.

Example: what was the "real world" max SPL generated with? Pink Noise? If so, what crest factor did it have? Sine wave? If so, what frequecy? Also what duration was the max SPL held for? Was the max SPL reached and the component survived, or is that the failure point?

We calculate max SPL based upon the loudspeakers sensitivity and power handling using Pink Noise with a 6db crest factor.

Not worth the coin? Maybe it's not for you...but EV celebrated it's 80th anniversary last year, I don't think we'd have lasted that long building over-priced products...right?

In the end, I would just hope you'd at least give any product an opportunity to impress you before you write it off as being "too expensive". It seems rather ironic given the numerous threads I read on this very chat board from DJ's lamenting the pricing battle they face with thier potential customers. There is not a "magic loudspeaker" built to suit eveyone's needs and budget, this is just another option from which to choose.
 
Well... for what my thoughts are worth on this, 1KW RMS to a single bass driver is rather impressive ~ especially so as this is an active cabinet.

1,000 wrms can be some decent SR headroom in a mid-sized venue when it's EQed and processed right. :)
 
Fred Stewart said:
Well... for what my thoughts are worth on this, 1KW RMS to a single bass driver is rather impressive ~ especially so as this is an active cabinet.

1,000 wrms can be some decent SR headroom in a mid-sized venue when it's EQed and processed right. :)
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Technology is winning :) and it's not a bad thing, people also need to learn how to do things the old way :)
 
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