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ittigger said:
She has recorded songs too - does that also make her a 'singer'? Do you also feel she's a much better 'show'? Is that also proof that a singer / band is a commodity? Do you also think Paris has even the slightest teensy weensy worry about performing for money and / or making it as a DJ?

Let me add to this the various other jobs that Paris has had:

Walmart
Taxidermist
Dairy Farm
Sonic
Springtime Gala Co-Chairperson
Auctioneer
Gas Station

The list goes on and on - are these all also 'commodities' and short of their versions of 'milli vanilli'?
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I think you're getting lost in minutia.
If you have not yet been witness to the percentage of DJs running with programs like Ableton and how the new DJ of today fits into the pop culture that will be tomorrow's bride - you are going to be in for an eventual reality shock. The value of all this "music knowledge, crowd reading, and talent" that you allude to has changed - most notably in where and how it is applied. There is a different kind of DJ growing up with tomorrow's bride and the tools with which they address the areas of your concern are quite formidable and ingenious.

I'm just saying that the current inventory trend - more up lighting, and photo-booths, etc. are not the long term answer to creating sustainable value for a DJ.
 
MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
I mentioned it takes time to know how to read a crowd. My experience you just don't get that right away. Sometimes it may mean you have to make some mistakes to get it. Even me now I've made a mistake at times by playing a certain song that kills the dance floor. Luckily I normally because of my skill level know how to quickly regain command of the dance floor. What sucks is when someone makes a request and I play it (sometimes knowing the song will be a dud) and it kills the dance floor. I've also either refused to play a song or tell them I don't have it when I know I do because of that reason. You learn such things not over night but over a period of time.
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Mix, the DJs job is to read the entire room. Clearing the floor is not always a mistake - it is often a usefully deliberate thing to do for certain kinds of transitions. Not every event is an ad-hoc performance, many have a less than apparent but very real structure. A lot of things that may look improvised are really not.
 
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It can be. The big thing is knowing how to sell such services. Not every client will care for such extras like video, up lighting and photo booths. I had a call for wedding where they were looking for DJ that could provide video. I couldn't so that left them looking for someone that could provide that service.

I get that the more dj's who can provide such services will have clients not all that interested because most are doing it. You've just got to know how to make it an attractive add on and not look like every other DJ.
 
MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
It can be. The big thing is knowing how to sell such services. Not every client will care for such extras like video, up lighting and photo booths. I had a call for wedding where they were looking for DJ that could provide video. I couldn't so that left them looking for someone that could provide that service.

I get that the more dj's who can provide such services will have clients not all that interested because most are doing it. You've just got to know how to make it an attractive add on and not look like every other DJ.
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Why don't you have a list of videographers you could work with so you could provide that service, I only have sound gear and basic lighting, but I have contacts so I can make everything a client could want possible and sold and coordinated through me at a profit.
 
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tunes4046 said:
Why don't you have a list of videographers you could work with so you could provide that service, I only have sound gear and basic lighting, but I have contacts so I can make everything a client could want possible and sold and coordinated through me at a profit.
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That's more my style. I don't have the funds to purchase the extra gear. I don't have the room to store the extra gear, nor a big enough vehicle to transport it. I don't have the time to market it effectively or maintain it properly.
There's more to "add-ons" than just buying stuff and charging more for it.
Besides, I like throwing the extra business to people I like to work with...regardless of whether I make profit on it.
They may have the need to throw business MY way.
 
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