Ultramixer DJ software
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Wiz in my area a DJ/Entertainer is hired based on his talents and skills. If you truly think anybody can become a DJ you are sadly mistaken. It's more than moving sliders as you call it. You are a sound technician, salesman and entertainer. You can't be a penny pincher or cheap ass in this business. Smart money makes money. I have friends that I dj with that spend $40,000 -$100,000.00 on quality equipment, lighting. etc. The end result is netting over $500,000.00 - 1,000,000.00 annually as a group and company.
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Real talent and skill is someone playing the piano or a saxophone or someone WRITING music. Pushing sliders back and forth doesn't even come close in comparison. If you want to live in afantasy world that you're the best DJ alive and no one can do what you do go ahead, but there is a reason why there are so many DJs out there-it isn't that hard to do-lots of people can learn how to push a slider back and forth from side to side. Writing a computer program? now that's skill. Not everyone can do that.[/QUOTE]
I will agree with you that it takes talent to play an instrument. My daughter is 11 and she is amazing on the violin. My nephew started playing the violin when he was three years old. Now at 18 he travels all over the United States with his orchestra. He could not find a job this summer when he came home from college. So he took his talent to the city and played for 6 hours a day for 2 weeks on the street daily. He made over 200 bucks a day in tips.
I think in prior post you said you are a singer. Well guess what! Everybody and their mother is a singer these days, and the ones I run into at weddings performing live sound like ass. They butcher good songs that would sound better from a dj playing the original track. So I would not knock what a dj does if I were you. You sound bitter because maybe your skill set as a dj just sucks.
I will agree with you that it takes talent to play an instrument. My daughter is 11 and she is amazing on the violin. My nephew started playing the violin when he was three years old. Now at 18 he travels all over the United States with his orchestra. He could not find a job this summer when he came home from college. So he took his talent to the city and played for 6 hours a day for 2 weeks on the street daily. He made over 200 bucks a day in tips.
I think in prior post you said you are a singer. Well guess what! Everybody and their mother is a singer these days, and the ones I run into at weddings performing live sound like ass. They butcher good songs that would sound better from a dj playing the original track. So I would not knock what a dj does if I were you. You sound bitter because maybe your skill set as a dj just sucks.
djsarge
Mac Daddy DJ
The horror .... your clients must hate you!
Yea. I hate getting emails like this:
We just got back from our honeymoon, otherwise I would've emailed sooner! I just wanted to thank you for doing such a great job at our wedding! Thank you so much for being so accommodating to my requests and doing an overall fantastic job! If there are any sites or reviews you would like me to write for you, please let me know...I would be more than happy to.
djsarge
Mac Daddy DJ
That's baiting and trolling Steve, but it I couldn't care less, I know what I can do and what level of skill I have and no comment by you or anyone else can detract from that.
Wiz - but you're quick to disparage my skills and what I offer/do based on a beef with someone else.......that's ok in your books?
I hope I am not stepping out of line here. Unless someone is being really verbally abusive, I don't see the need to be absolutely clinical. We are all supposed to be adults here not a bunch of Cry Babies! If I say something stupid and someone wants to call me an "AZZ" I have no problem with that in the context of which it is said. Calling someone "stupid" or an "idiot" is not in my book being derogatory. The reasoning that caused that sentiment to be expressed is what should be questioned. If someone, even me, shares something that they are doing that is indeed a stupid thing to do, what is the problem in calling out that person?
Sure we have to be nice to each other but for cripes sake, do we have to sugar coat everything? A super sensitive person can be offended by just about anything but that does not mean others will. So who is to judge that a statement is indeed offensive? Personal attacks without a valid reason is another thing and I think we can all determine when that is happening!
Remember, there is always the "ignore" feature. This forum is filled with a lot of people who are very opinionated. If one posts a Gig Report and expects only "pats on the back" they will be sorely disappointed. If one knows they can't handle the criticism then DON"T Post them.
I hate feeling that I have to watch my every word for fear of offending someone or anyone. I am a straight shooter, I call it as I see it.
Sure we have to be nice to each other but for cripes sake, do we have to sugar coat everything? A super sensitive person can be offended by just about anything but that does not mean others will. So who is to judge that a statement is indeed offensive? Personal attacks without a valid reason is another thing and I think we can all determine when that is happening!
Remember, there is always the "ignore" feature. This forum is filled with a lot of people who are very opinionated. If one posts a Gig Report and expects only "pats on the back" they will be sorely disappointed. If one knows they can't handle the criticism then DON"T Post them.
I hate feeling that I have to watch my every word for fear of offending someone or anyone. I am a straight shooter, I call it as I see it.
I never disparaged anyone's skills, I said that lots of people can learn how to be a DJ. Is that disparaging you? You may have mad skills, but apparently so do lots of other DJs based on their comments here at ODJT and at other boards. That means that there are lots of good DJs doesn't it? OR - there are lots of DJs that think they're good. If there are lots that are good then it supports my previous comments that lots of people can become DJs doesn't it? It stands to reason that some are better than others.
Ever wonder why so many peolpe who worked in radio aren't working in radio anymore? It's because they automated radio. If DJing with computer software is so bad then why are so many companies writing DJ software AND including the ability to automix? If this DJ software allows more and more people to become DJs then how is it such a skilled thing to do? Does it take skill? Of course, but is it something that only 1/10th of 1% of the pouplation can master?
I feel like I'm talking to little kids that just can't grasp simple concepts.
Ever wonder why so many peolpe who worked in radio aren't working in radio anymore? It's because they automated radio. If DJing with computer software is so bad then why are so many companies writing DJ software AND including the ability to automix? If this DJ software allows more and more people to become DJs then how is it such a skilled thing to do? Does it take skill? Of course, but is it something that only 1/10th of 1% of the pouplation can master?
I feel like I'm talking to little kids that just can't grasp simple concepts.
Wiz - any monkey can push "play"...any monkey can sing.......There more to being a successful dj than just pushing play, just as there's more to being a successful singer than just singing a tune. If you think it's that cut and dry, I won't waste any more of your time.
As for your radio analogy, that's simply not correct. Automation didn't kill radio; it's the penny pinching owners and corporations. You no longer have news/sports people or for that matter announcers at the local station. Stations in larger cities now broadcast to the smaller markers. Instead of having 10 on air staff, most station have 4; those 4 voice track for the remaining un filled time. There's syndicated programming as well.
Automation made it easier to cut back.....it didn't replace
As for your radio analogy, that's simply not correct. Automation didn't kill radio; it's the penny pinching owners and corporations. You no longer have news/sports people or for that matter announcers at the local station. Stations in larger cities now broadcast to the smaller markers. Instead of having 10 on air staff, most station have 4; those 4 voice track for the remaining un filled time. There's syndicated programming as well.
Automation made it easier to cut back.....it didn't replace
And just like this DJ business, the economy, technology and the resulting penny pinching clients have made changes to this industry from which we'll probably never recover.
I think the lack of respect for DJs by the general public, the fight to get a decent paying gig and the technology that's made it way too easy to to do this (not well in most cases) has made us all here a little PO'd, anxious and worried.
Face it, we are no longer the lords of the mobile music like it was even 10 years ago. I shudder to think what the next 5 years will bring...
Thak you, somone willing to speak the truth. Technology marches forward whether we like it or not. If it makes it easier for the average Joe to do what you do with a basic level of proficiency-certainly not at your level Steve, but maybe nearly as good AND good enough to fool people who don't know any better and who only attend a wedding once in a great while-then it doesn't take the the skill and training of a brain surgeon to DJ, does it?
It takes more skills as a business man, promoter, marketing expert and gear expert than it takes to crossfade songs. Those other skills are far more influential in how many and what kind of gigs you get. A good website and good sales skills are far more important than how good of a DJ you are.
It takes more skills as a business man, promoter, marketing expert and gear expert than it takes to crossfade songs. Those other skills are far more influential in how many and what kind of gigs you get. A good website and good sales skills are far more important than how good of a DJ you are.
Wiz- You really don't get it. You're talking someone's wedding reception; the most important day of their life land you think it's Ok to try to "fool" them.
Let me be frank; you're the problem with the DJ industry. You think anyone with a minimal level of skill can go in and gamble that they can "fool" their clients at the most important event likely of their lives....Wiz...you're no where nearly as good as most here.....
What about picking the flow of the music, mc'ing, communicating?
Hopefully when you car is in for service next, you won't have someone like you fixing the brakes; a mechanic with a basic level of proficiency looking to fool you into believing that he knows what he is doing.
I understand you now...... You have marginal skills as a dj (you've all but admitted that). You don't care about your clients. You think you can (and probably have) sell/sold them a bill of goods. You condone misleading and lying to clients.
Let me be frank; you're the problem with the DJ industry. You think anyone with a minimal level of skill can go in and gamble that they can "fool" their clients at the most important event likely of their lives....Wiz...you're no where nearly as good as most here.....
What about picking the flow of the music, mc'ing, communicating?
Hopefully when you car is in for service next, you won't have someone like you fixing the brakes; a mechanic with a basic level of proficiency looking to fool you into believing that he knows what he is doing.
I understand you now...... You have marginal skills as a dj (you've all but admitted that). You don't care about your clients. You think you can (and probably have) sell/sold them a bill of goods. You condone misleading and lying to clients.
You're right Steve, I.m crappy on the mic, I can't MC, I don't know anything about what songs to choose, I'm a lousy singer and a worse DJ. Does that make you happy?