I wouldn't expect someone with interpersonal skills as smooth as sandpaper to be a good judge of anyone else's.
True or not this kind of makes us look bad
- Thread starter Jeff Romard
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They talk about it constantly but in the end nothing ever materializes. People are so lazy or distracted now - they assume that because it's on their smart phone and right at their own fingertips there's no deadlines, no urgency. Ultimately, the information never materializes, or it's during the actual event which might be ineffective or unproductive. There's also a certain arrogance regarding Apps and "followers" - as if the world revolves around one's personal retail subscriptions.
I'm good with anything that informs me as to their personal music preferences - the couples, the guests and anyone whose present. The more I know the better the decisions I can make when reading the room. But, they DO have to send me that information in a timely and useful manner. I'm not going to buy subscriptions to countless APPS or spend hours trying to sift through their digital footprints. Get it together and get it to my inbox. Period.
Filling the dance floor is like picking up nails with a magnet. If you can identify who in the room is a magnet for others - then you can easily rotate the floor for the best results. The bride's requests are a starting point and can set some boundaries - but, I also want requests from everyone else in the room as well.
Being a DJ should not feel like I'm a game show contestant. There's no puzzle I need to solve and I'm not buying any vowels. Just give me the information straight up about what kind of music moves you. You want cake? Yeah, I got a recipe that cooks, but the special ingredients - that's on you.
Bob what you said depends on if they will give you the info you need to do a good job for the event. Again let me ask the question. How does what that DJ did if it’s true affect you? This question is for all here.
I'm not Bob (thank God), but what the guy did (in my opinion) is to scam the B&G. At $4k, I'd feel certain that they were expecting an expert DJ working at his craft, not somebody just playing off Spotify. I'd bet that if they found out they'd be highly, highly irate. That's the kind of stuff that impacts all of us negatively because others hear about it and then we're all stuck in the sales meetings, trying to explain that we do not do that.
I totally disagree that it affects all of us. It might affect some but not all of us. I don't see it affecting Taso. How many do you know that are doing this charging 4K? I don't know of any. You should be able to show proof of how you do things.
What that DJ did if it’s true has no bearing on how I do things and the people that book me know I don't do such a thing. If it is true and they got away with it then that's between them and the client that booked them.
It doesn't.
Someone has voluntarily booked an paid him so, clearly he's not even aware of the potential spread in his own market.
If word gets back to this customer that their DJ is highlighting their gig as an example of "suckers" then that will eventually come back to undermine his own future but, not mine.
Again, I think the whole thing is BS. But as Jeff and others have said, if you are in an industry like ours, and a post like this becomes public, it can negatively affect the industry and someone 's business. Of course it will affect some more than others, if at all. Most probably not at all. I do believe it's easy to explain away, but it's possible that the call is ever made because someone decided to use a Spotify play list.
I'm not worried about it, mainly because there's nothing I can do and I really don't believe it will have much of an impact if any at all. But to pretend a potential client of yours could never possibly see this and make the wrong decision is rather naive
I'm not worried about it, mainly because there's nothing I can do and I really don't believe it will have much of an impact if any at all. But to pretend a potential client of yours could never possibly see this and make the wrong decision is rather naive
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I don't agree with that, because it seems pretty obvious that what this DJ sells is his inventory - not expert mixology. He's doing exactly what you do - building his invoice by adding more "stuff" around him.
I'm selling confidence and peace of mind (most often in the form of reputation and a proven history which is why I'm busy despite having no advertising.) The invoice has no line item for "peace of mind" and everything else I might deploy is readily available elsewhere - so it's not "stuff" or even "sales" that is getting me hired.
When I get a gig $4k or much more - it's not because of what I do with music. It's because I know events inside and out, backstage and on stage, from concept to final execution. Sure, there's tech, gear, graphics, staging elements or other stuff that pushes the invoice up quite high but, that's just an invoice and it comes AFTER the event. The reason I got hired in the first place is because the person knows I can bring an A-game. That same principal holds true even when the invoice is just $400. I treat every client and event with the same enthusiasm whether it's a 50 yard dash or a marathon.
Spotify in this day and age may be no different than clients who might give us a request list and not want us to deviate form any of the songs listed. I imagine someone this intent about what they want would be searching for a DJ they can truly trust to stay on course with their intentions. This may in fact, be exactly what this DJ was doing and the Spotify list is on pause because he's simply using it as a reference as he creates his mix from songs contained within the list.
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I'm not in the business any more. Why are you avoiding giving an answer?? I know it's only a hobby for you. Did you see the smile emoji?
What is there to answer? I said how I felt and I stand by what I said. If this DJ is affecting you, then you have a lot to worry about. I have never used Spotify. What that DJ did hasn't hurt me one bit. I don't know who that DJ is and I don't care who that DJ is. My playing name is DJ Macho Man.
Ok since we're talking about this where is this DJ from, where does he work and where was the venue that this wedding took place?