The Part-time DJ’s Perspective

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Also and I know most of you won't like this but this is my price for 6 hours. I try to when I sell to a client to help them find ways to make their event what they want it to be but also try to keep them from having to pay me overtime. Don't laugh to much though guys my clients really really do appreciate this kind of stuff. This is my attempt at being open and honest and not hiding nor trying to convince everyone that I'm the highest and best paid DJ around.
 
I upsell my lights for 50 dollars They are two EFX 600 on a duratruss. Some times I'll through in the lights for free if they where refered to me.

This is silly if you ask me. I don't really care what you charge as it doesn't effect me one way or the other, but you couldn't rent this equipment for $50.00 let alone have it delivered, set up, and have a tech to run it. I don't know exactly what you have spent on this set up, but I can guess it's in the ball park of $1500.00. Most rental stores rent equipment for ball park 1/10 the price of purchasing the equipment ($150.00 rental) and you need to pick it up and then drop it off to them.

You are happy being on the low end of the food chain, fine, but at least charge the bottom of what the client would have to pay to do this on their own. Then you will be giving your time and talent away, but you will get a fair rental fee.
 
Availability to clients? I 100% agree with Tom (and Ace, if most of your calls come in during the day, then you must do a ton of corporate business). In the 15 years I was a mobile, I received MAYBE 10 calls during the day for services. 99.9% of my calls came in after 6:00pm.

I think classifying yourself is just a way to justify your pricing (be it if you are full time or part time). Full timers can say "I have to charge this much because I am a full time DJ and it is my job" while part timers can say "I don't need to charge that much, because this is just a part time hobby for me".

Any experienced, qualified DJ (which most of us are here) will put the same amount of effort and time into every event they do, and will make sure their clients are completely satisfied. That is the only thing that matters, not a label.

And everyone thought the world was flat because that was the way it looked from their vantage point.

The fact is: Brides call after 6:00pm because it's personal. Everyone else calls during regular business hours. It's also not unusual for Brides to do their initial shopping from work and call during their lunch hour.

In general, full time DJs are more likely to charge less than part time DJs because their operation is more efficient. The more you work at something the better you become, the more you can combine efforts, and the lower your resulting cost of doing it. Furthermore, some things just die of old age NOT wear & tear. Your mileage is always better on the highway than in the city streets.

A full time multi-op will always charge more than both part timers and solo full timers because they carry the single biggest expense of all - Payroll.

A part time multi-op will always charge less than every one else because there's no such thing as a part time multi-op. This is just a group of people fooling themselves into thinking they run a business.

Solo part timers will never charge less than what they would earn at their primary job. Those that do it for fun most often charge next too nothing at all. It really is just for fun.

I don't think FT and PT DJs spend the same time and effort on clients, though the customer staisfaction may not vary.

The diference is that a full time DJ is more likely to have a consistent operational plan and support system in place that allows him to deal with more clients with less time spent per client.

While both PT & FT DJs succeed at satisfying their clients, the full timer is likely to serve more clients per unit time than a PT DJ. He also has a wider schedule to play with.

What does it boil down too? Well, the full time DJ can structure his business to fit the number of hours in a comfortable work week. The PT DJ has to work a regular week (or portion thereof) - and then clock overtime to run a DJ business.

Part timers ALWAYS believe that Saturday is the only significant day of the week in the event business. The truth is it's the only significant day in the family event business.
 
(and Ace, if most of your calls come in during the day, then you must do a ton of corporate business).

I would say about 90% of our clients are weddings. Truth is, most brides find time off to plan their wedding and not every bride works.

There are the college brides who have a part time job.
There are the nurses who have the days off.
There are detectives under the same circumstances.

You all need to stop assuming that all brides have a 9-5 job.
 
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I completely agree with ACE on this one:sqmad: I teach by day and work on building my DJ business the rest of the time. I tell people that I'm a DJ first and a teacher second, but in reality I have to be good at both to feed my family. I've been around the block with marketing and running a business, but no matter how efficient I am, I would be more successfull If I were a FT DJ. There is a lot that needs to be done during the work day that I have a hard time getting done between 4-5 PM after school...not to mention having the kids and wife in the mix.

I think Ace's comment about being a "dedicated" DJ was taken completely out of context by some folks. All he was saying was that "pound for pound" a FT DJ can get more done than a PT DJ in a given day and not refering to a PT DJ's drive, ambition or ability.

Good debate though...nice posts.
 
You know, its funny about the times that Brides call and set up consults. Caterers and facilities work normal business hours. Cake decorators work normal business hours. Printers work normal business hours. Florists work normal business hours. Yet DJ's are expected to be available to whenever the client can fit us in. Why do you think that is?

I think its because too many DJ's reek of desperation. We are the only wedding "pro" that has people that advertise that they can be contacted 24 hours a day. Well, our company believes that our time is valuable and we expect our clients to honor that by setting up appointments that are reasonable. We have office hours M-Th from 9am to 8pm, Fridays 9am-5pm. We don't usually offer weekend appointments (occasionally we make an exception, but its rare). Now here is the funny thing, since we set up these hours of operation and have kept them pretty firm, our clients seam to be able to find time during regular business hours to meet with us. I also believe that they take us more seriously because we run our business as a business.

Think what you want, but its working for us!
 
There isn't enough toilet paper in the world the clean up the crap in this thread. :sqconfused:

With rare exception, the attitudes reek of jealousy, riddled with lies, spread evenly with unsupported facts and numbers, and mostly heaped with just plain old, every day, garden variety type, classic DJ malecowpoopoos.:sqmad:

While some may call it a debate, it is basically degrading to any segment of the business, hurtful to many individuals who are doing the best they can, and serves no purpose other than to expose the mindless, the immature, the self-aggrandizing, and is frankly playing right into the agenda and mindset of a few verbose and angry people.:sqcool:
 
Thats The Ticket

IMO I can be MORE dedicated as a Part-Time professional Disc Jockey due to the fact that my workload is not driven by my bottom line.

Groovielou

I have been reading this as a part timer and thinking why I am part time. I have a good day job that pays about 60,000 per year, w/ bennies and vacation and sick time. I DJ part time.

1 reason this is good for me. It makes the DJing fun and not a have to do situation. I charge good rates for my area and get the fees. I am traveling to San Diego in July to do a wedding getting paid and hotel accomodations for 2 days.
However, if I were to go full time, it would become much more stressfull and I would not enjoy what I do nearly as much.

Am I as professional as a full timer and treat each client with individual care.. YUP. But I also do it with the reassurance that my family is taken care of week in and out and that I do not have to worry about the slow times.

Great post
 
I have been reading this as a part timer and thinking why I am part time. I have a good day job that pays about 60,000 per year, w/ bennies and vacation and sick time. I DJ part time.

1 reason this is good for me. It makes the DJing fun and not a have to do situation. I charge good rates for my area and get the fees. I am traveling to San Diego in July to do a wedding getting paid and hotel accomodations for 2 days.
However, if I were to go full time, it would become much more stressfull and I would not enjoy what I do nearly as much.

Am I as professional as a full timer and treat each client with individual care.. YUP. But I also do it with the reassurance that my family is taken care of week in and out and that I do not have to worry about the slow times.

Great post

I'm with you bro. I know to my clients the one thing I don't do is reek of desperation. Hell with me its just the opposite. I encourge them to look around find what fits them. I try very hard to educate them. Then I tell the after they looked around to please feel free and call back and I hope there date is still open :sqerr:. Hell half the time after that they either book me with out seeing me or ask if we can meet.

And the reason I'm fairly open for calls but not 24 hours a day. Is that I'm based out of my house so they can just call me and I can take the call in our office. I remember years ago I was and EMT volunteer firefighter. And in our department they had many paid firefighters. The department. Was a combination of both. We where at a party one day for the firefighters.

And I remember about 10 of the women basically bragging about there husbands being full time. Then one very brash women the wife of a captain. Asked my ex wife why I was not full time.

All the women looked at her wondering what she could possible say. And to this day the comment was the best she every had. She simply said "He would be but we can't afford to lose that much money". :sqrolleyes: PRICELESS
 
The Truth For Those Who Missed It

I had a more entertaining post, but this is more effective:

Colette Dudka writes, "Johnny made sure we could contact him day or night. He was professional and very thorough. I knew after I talked to him how passionate he was about his job and that he wouldn't let us down."

That means way way way more to me than what the big shots from the Justice League of America have to say.
 
As this thread continues I have a hard time figuring out what half of these posts have to do with the original intent of the thread. Just so that I haven't been taken out of context:

1. FT vs PT, who cares? I don't!

2. Get what your worth? I believe very much in this, people charge what they feel they are worth and no one knows better then the person charging what that amount is.

3. Don't sell your services below what the client would have to pay to do it themselves. Its stupid ... end of discussion.

4. Everyone is entitled to run their business the way they want. No one should ever feel differently. If you want advise, great! If you want support, I'm here for you!! If you want to argue why you can't do it, please leave me out!!!
 
Will somebody hurry up, then, and save me from my "reek[ing] of desperation", just because I choose to do something my way?

Commissioner! The Bat Signal!!

Johnny,

I hope you didn't take that comment as directed toward you or anyone else here for that matter. I was speaking of a problem within our industry and not trying to single out anyone (that is why no one was singled out). I have no issue with how you choose to run your business and really couldn't care less as its none of my business and I have my own business to worry about.

If I'm taking your post the wrong way, I apologize. The fact that you used my words in your post have lead me to that conclusion. If you have a problem with me, please feel free to address me in a PM as I have no desire to have a urine for distance contest with you again.

Thanks!
 
Seems to me that FT or PT, high priced or low priced; it's all just a matter of your personal preference.

What a stroke of luck!

It just so happens that people looking for DJs also have a variety of personal preferences!

Isn't it great when life brings two compatible things together !!
 
Bob:

You hit the nail on the head with your last statement. I wish all DJs could just get that.

Thanks
 
I think its because too many DJ's reek of desperation. We are the only wedding "pro" that has people that advertise that they can be contacted 24 hours a day.

I apologise. I did not direct my comments to anybody in particular--just those who are heroes in the Justice League of America. And I'm also sorry because I thought that the quote read, "I think its because too many DJ's reek of desperation. We are the only wedding 'pro' that has people that advertise that they can be contacted 24 hours a day."

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