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redhotdj

redhotdj

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Hey now that I got your attention Please any and all lets hear your opinion on this. First I love Djing but IS this a younger persons business. As They say Sex sells, now I am no chipndale nor on a scale from 1 -10 10 being the worst. I'm not a 10 but as each day goes by it seems more and more things start to hurt the gray seems to pop out a little more and things are getting heavier. Hell 10 years ago I'd party all night and into the next day and keep going, if I did that now it would kill me. I have been in retail for 40 years or so and I always said that the old people were wiser and had more experience and you could learn from them. I used to do a lot of school dances but with in the last couple of years I've seen a Big decrease in them. They say age is only a number bull shit. Kids don't want some old fart they want someone who can hop around and party all night long. The same goes with brides do they really want a older person or someone more near their age to relate to. Age should mean experience but does it. So for all you younger guys out there if you got aches and pains now, just wait, it gets better. I guess the 1000 dollar question is how do you stop doing something that you love so much, am I tapping out, HELL no but your body sure makes it hard to go on
 
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redhotdj said:
Hey now that I got your attention Please any and all lets hear your opinion on this. First I love Djing but IS this a younger persons business. As They say Sex sells, now I am no chipndale nor on a scale from 1 -10 10 being the worst. I'm not a 10 but as each day goes by it seems more and more things start to hurt the gray seems to pop out a little more and things are getting heavier. Hell 10 years ago I'd party all night and into the next day and keep going, if I did that now it would kill me. I have been in retail for 40 years or so and I always said that the old people were wiser and had more experience and you could learn from them. I used to do a lot of school dances but with in the last couple of years I've seen a Big decrease in them. They say age is only a number bull shit. Kids don't want some old fart they want someone who can hop around and party all night long. The same goes with brides do they really want a older person or someone more near their age to relate to. Age should mean experience but does it. So for all you younger guys out there if you got aches and pains now, just wait, it gets better. I guess the 1000 dollar question is how do you stop doing something that you love so much, am I tapping out, HELL no but your body sure makes it hard to go on
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As one who started DJing AFTER retiring, I can attest that old dudes CAN still party. You may not be the best fit for every wedding, prom, or sweet 16 party.[emoji1] Actually, doing sweet 16 parties at my age just sounds creepy.[emoji1]That's OK... I specialize in corporate events, campaign rallies, reunions, anniversaries, church events, and events where there's an older mixed crowd. Not doing weddings and school events certainly limits my opportunities, but at my age, I'm not looking to do a ton of events anyway. I'm a damn good MC, if I don't say so myself[emoji1]... I know I'm WAY more entertaining than my younger counterparts. You just have to find your niche, then do a REALLY good job for your clients.

I'm lucky I'm in good health, so I can do what I do, just as long as I remember NOT to try to do what I could do 40-50 years ago.[emoji1]

... and you're right; sex sells... just that sometimes the people buying it are REALLY unattractive![emoji1]

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I don't think "sex sells" should be the theme of this thread. It's more of an "I'm too old for this shit".

That line of thinking is, in my opinion not correct. True you may not get gigs because they are for kids. I'm 37 and am struggling to get gigs here because I moved, but you can find your niche.

Do that, separate yourself from the rest. Good marketing helps.

Good Luck. (Not in a sarcastic way)
 
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DJ Not Applicable said:
I don't think "sex sells" should be the theme of this thread. It's more of an "I'm too old for this shit".

That line of thinking is, in my opinion not correct. True you may not get gigs because they are for kids. I'm 37 and am struggling to get gigs here because I moved, but you can find your niche.

Do that, separate yourself from the rest. Good marketing helps.

Good Luck. (Not in a sarcastic way)
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I think you missed the point... The title "Sex Sells" was intended to get you to read the thread... Apparently it worked.[emoji4]... Marketing![emoji4]


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DJ Not Applicable said:
I don't think "sex sells" should be the theme of this thread. It's more of an "I'm too old for this shit".

That line of thinking is, in my opinion not correct. True you may not get gigs because they are for kids. I'm 37 and am struggling to get gigs here because I moved, but you can find your niche.

Do that, separate yourself from the rest. Good marketing helps.

First I'm not bitchin for attention I'm just stating a fact and you are Right on finding your niche but after doing many different types of events limiting yourself to one or two puts you in a category for just that. Here's my point about sex sells, a very attractive lady walks in to a venue she will turn heads a very over weight one will Not. My point being is do this ( Djing ) while your in good health and enjoy it cause in time the next good looking guy will come up tap you on the shoulder and tell you to move over

Good Luck. (Not in a sarcastic way)
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But my one question is do you think that a bride would relate better to a old or younger person given the bride is at a younger age
 
I've lost out on weddings to older djs... I don't know if it was in fact because of age and experience... or if it was because of price or something else, but the dj's I once in a while have competition with are in their 40's and 50's.

I don't know your age or what you refer to as old but I know a decent amount of djs in their 40's and mid to late 50's keeping a rather full schedule of quality weddings and even teen events so I don't think age affects their business much. They do have assistants that go out with them to events that are younger (light techs and assistant djs when they're mcin).
 
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But my one question is do you think that a bride would relate better to a old or younger person given the bride is at a younger age
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She relates to the younger, obviously. The question is though, which one gives her confidence and that's much more of an issue of perceived professionalism and presentation. Young gives you a slight advantage but the older guy who is a smoother salesman will win out the vast majority of the time.
 
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But my one question is do you think that a bride would relate better to a old or younger person given the bride is at a younger age
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There are professions where you tend to get better with age... Experience is ALWAYS a plus, but there's a point at which the negatives of age outweigh the positives of experience... Not sure where DJing falls within that observation, but for me, I know that even if I had all the experience in the world, I'm never gonna relate to some of the music of this current generation.[emoji1]


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It also depends on what kind of gigs you are going with. With good marketing and networking, it shouldn't matter how old you are.

I did get carded for a pack of guinness at the liquor store.. I'm 37.
 
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A friend of mine who is no longer here said it best. As you get older your priorities change. Things that were important at one time are either of no importance or less important today. I used to love to go to the club and party all night. It's not a big thrill any more since I'm no longer out for the meat market scene. What I mean is I no longer go to such places looking to pick up some action. Besides that I'm working on my business and trying to fit in my work. My aim is for me to get paid and not have to spend money going out to a club. I come and see my friend on Wednesday and Thursday at the same place I play at now. Once in a while if a friend of mine that is a DJ or special friend is giving an event somewhere I will show up. Other wise I'm not interested.

I would go out with my friend sometimes because that's what she still like to do. She just can't believe I'm a DJ and I don't crazy about going out to a party. What's the big deal? I'm not playing getting paid. The younger people automatically think once you get to a certain age you won't be any good for an event they are having. They don't know that there are ome of us who have gray hair might do a better job then someone in their 20's or early 30's. I'm just saying.
 
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I've lost out on weddings to older djs... I don't know if it was in fact because of age and experience... or if it was because of price or something else, but the dj's I once in a while have competition with are in their 40's and 50's.

I don't know your age or what you refer to as old but I know a decent amount of djs in their 40's and mid to late 50's keeping a rather full schedule of quality weddings and even teen events so I don't think age affects their business much. They do have assistants that go out with them to events that are younger (light techs and assistant djs when they're mcin).
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I'm about to turn 47 and I'm busier than I ever was. In my opinion it's more how you relate to the client than your age for the most part. The fact of the matter is not everyone can relate to everyone else
 
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For wedding photographers being a peer of the bride is definitely a good thing - not sex sells so much as people tend to do business with people like themselves.

I do well with HS senior photography - I truly relate to the parents ( i have two teen kids).

DJing..sweet 16 and grad parties? I "am" the customer, the parent.

Weddings..rarely have I seen young DJs do weddings and the few I've seen are not very good. I may have seen 3 or 4 in a decade under 30 or 35. Most tend to drink (a lot), suck at MC and announcements and most have low end gear (speakers) and a high end controller and don't read the floor well. Some only suffer one of those issues, some all of them.
 
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I dj sweet 16's... in many cases the girls make the initial contact, and the parents do what the girls want to make them happy.yes the parents sign and pay, but I treat my bday girls like we all treat brides... they're the priority. My sweet 16's avg $3300 so I'm not dealing with clients with low expectations either.
I just turned 30... have been doing weddings for 5 years. My sound system alone costs more than the entire rig of 95% of the djs... I don't drink... and I can handle the Mc aspects just fine. With over 200 videos online of packed dance floors I'm pretty sure I have been able to read my crowd as well.

Those statements you made are purely from a personal perspective and it also seems you network with low-mid tier djs and clients so that would be why your perception may be as such. There are
 
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It comes from shooting 100+ weddings over the past 12 years and seeing the DJs in person.

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I dj sweet 16's... in many cases the girls make the initial contact, and the parents do what the girls want to make them happy.yes the parents sign and pay, but I treat my bday girls like we all treat brides... they're the priority. My sweet 16's avg $3300 so I'm not dealing with clients with low expectations either.
I just turned 30... have been doing weddings for 5 years. My sound system alone costs more than the entire rig of 95% of the djs... I don't drink... and I can handle the Mc aspects just fine. With over 200 videos online of packed dance floors I'm pretty sure I have been able to read my crowd as well.

Those statements you made are purely from a personal perspective and it also seems you network with low-mid tier djs and clients so that would be why your perception may be as such. There are
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Plus, being old and presenting old are 2 different things. If you are not fat and gray you should be able to look energetic and young into your mid 60s. If you keep up with current trends and speak the language of younger people and are fairly conversant with mindless pop culture, you should do OK. The 2 enemies of presenting younger are weight and gray hair. All DJs should be working out regularly and staying fit. If only to be able to handle the load in and set up without struggling.
 
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