Question about Alto Ultimate Bluetooth

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Abbey Lane

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Has anyone been using the Alto Ultimate Bluetooth device? Comments please.

Does the device act as a transmitter as well.?

I'm using a Denon Controller. Can I plug a Alto Ultimate Bluetooth device into my controller and have it send a audio signal to another Alto Ultimate plugged into the speakers

I have a barn wedding coming with the dancing in the large barn and the cocktails in a tent at the end of the barn. Will the device transmit a strong signal to the speaker inside the tent?
 
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Under the best of circumstances, anything is possible. Again, Bluetooth is not a stable nor secure platform for communications. Everything is about risk - if you are ok with the risk, then go for it. I would not risk my performance with it.

If you were taking notes, her first test was approx 160' (debatable) .. this test was a clear and direct line of sight to an elevated BT device (notice she was completely to the right side of the speaker), on a sunny day with minimal obstacles to a speaker that was elevated on the 2nd floor deck. Her second test (a closed door), she was maybe 30' away - and lost it. Her 3rd test (open door around a corner), the speaker was facing away (BT device facing doorway), she was maybe 20' away and lost it.
 
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I have an Alto BT dongle similar to that one I would NOT recommend using it at more than 50 FT MAX and I'd be much more comfortable at 25. I tried it at roughly 75" one day and it worked great until people got there and the dropouts started I had to very quickly move my position
 
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I bought the Alto Stealth system and it works great. The issue I find is the distance between the receiver to the device it's running a signal to and is it a clear path?
 
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Under the best of circumstances, anything is possible. Again, Bluetooth is not a stable nor secure platform for communications. Everything is about risk - if you are ok with the risk, then go for it. I would not risk my performance with it.

If you were taking notes, her first test was approx 160' (debatable) .. this test was a clear and direct line of sight to an elevated BT device (notice she was completely to the right side of the speaker), on a sunny day with minimal obstacles to a speaker that was elevated on the 2nd floor deck. Her second test (a closed door), she was maybe 30' away - and lost it. Her 3rd test (open door around a corner), the speaker was facing away (BT device facing doorway), she was maybe 20' away and lost it.
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ittiger: thanks for your knowledge and advice!
 
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This is what I purchased back in 2018. I have only used it 3 times in the 5 yeasr I have had it - 2 times it was rock solid. One time, the sound quality was poor but it wasn't dropping out. That was sending it up 1 level about 50 feet line of sight,, but the 2nd level was about 30 feet high in a large room. Sennheiser wireless system. https://www.agiprodj.com/wireless-speaker-systems-promo.html

Here is one of the videos that I watched that compelled me to buy it.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRy7RVxlASc
 
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DJ Ricky B: Are you telling me I should buy it or not buy it?
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Well, the Sennheiser system is going to be 2x the cost of Alto Stealth, or any Bluetooth option. However, it is "Reliable". Not 100%. I wouldn't say it is Rock Solid, but it's a very good option. It does work through walls and around corners within reason. It's not perfect, but I would recommend it over Alto Stealth Wireless.

I honestly like the ease of not having to run a cable, BUT I hate the what ifs. Every Time I run wireless to another speaker over 40 feet away, I'm always checking in the whole time making sure it's working, and sounding good. It's also some time at the beginning to make sure it's set up right and working. If I can reasonably run a long XLR cable without it being too much work in order to do it, then I run a cable over going the wireless route. I get piece of mind with a cable. I don't ever have the confidence or peace of mind in a wireless signal. I go wireless if logistically running a cable is too difficult to, and/or just will take too much time to run it, tape down/conceal etc.
 
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DJ Ricky B said:
Well, the Sennheiser system is going to be 2x the cost of Alto Stealth, or any Bluetooth option. However, it is "Reliable". Not 100%. I wouldn't say it is Rock Solid, but it's a very good option. It does work through walls and around corners within reason. It's not perfect, but I would recommend it over Alto Stealth Wireless.

I honestly like the ease of not having to run a cable, BUT I hate the what ifs. Every Time I run wireless to another speaker over 40 feet away, I'm always checking in the whole time making sure it's working, and sounding good. It's also some time at the beginning to make sure it's set up right and working. If I can reasonably run a long XLR cable without it being too much work in order to do it, then I run a cable over going the wireless route. I get piece of mind with a cable. I don't ever have the confidence or peace of mind in a wireless signal. I go wireless if logistically running a cable is too difficult to, and/or just will take too much time to run it, tape down/conceal etc.
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Someone who knows more than me about Bluetooth could correct me but I think as far as the BT technology it wouldn't much matter what brand name you have it should deliver the same basically
 
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I have several friends who have the Stealth system and have never had an issue using it. I believe the problem is user error.
 
I consider Bluetooth to be "cordless" NOT wireless. Wireless will receive signals from ANY device transmitting on the chosen frequency. Bluetooth is PAIRED with a specific device, and secured to reject other signals.

I only use phantom powered Bluetooth DIs in close proximity to an INPUT source. NEVER as an ouput link to speakers. It might be fine on an FOH desk, built in rack, or on stage hidden in a convenient place. It allows me to capture audio from a presenters personal device while they remain free on stage from any cable connection.

I would not rely on Bluetooth as part of the PA system. If you can't run cables then get a professional wireless bridge. DJs who rely on consumer home technology for pro audio are just setting themselves up for failure. Sure, it may work in a number of instances and small venues, but it will build undue confidence and walk you straght into a very prominent failure as you lose sight of the very real limitations of Bluetooth.
 
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Someone who knows more than me about Bluetooth could correct me but I think as far as the BT technology it wouldn't much matter what brand name you have it should deliver the same basically
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I've recently learned that the version of Bluetooth can be important. I came across this article while I was researching why I was able to get such a good range from my Mackie Thump Go using the Bluetooth feature.
aluratek.com

Bluetooth 5.2 vs Bluetooth 5.0 | Aluratek

Bluetooth Version 5.2 was released in January 2020. Check out our latest post to learn what the major differences are from 5.0. Read more!
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Although you are speaking specifically about the Alto Bluetooth devices, I'd like to recommend checking out these Xvive Wireless adapters. I've used them in the past with great results. They've worked through walls and the battery life has not let me down yet.
www.sweetwater.com

Xvive U3 XLR Plug-on Wireless System

Plug-on Wireless Transmitter for Handheld Microphones, 2.4GHz
www.sweetwater.com www.sweetwater.com
 
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Someone who knows more than me about Bluetooth could correct me but I think as far as the BT technology it wouldn't much matter what brand name you have it should deliver the same basically
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The Sennheiser wireless systems I suggested are not Bluetooth. The Alto Stealth Wireless is not Bluetooth either. Both are Wireless UHF systems, but the Sennheiser is superior imo. Alto does make those XLR Bluetooth dongle transmitter and receivers
 
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