Pioneer?

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Folks, I'll readily admit that PC DJing is the way many new jocks are going. Many veterans have gone the PC route as well to save space and weight. It works for them and I'm happy for them. Rick can tell you. He writes the software. Then you've got the controller option ~ Cortex and the like. Whatever works for your business, use it.

My thoughts on the PC route ~ there are simply too many things that can go wrong. Computers were not designed to play music... that was an afterthought. CD decks were designed to play music. That's all they do and they do it well. CD decks don't have to boot up and run software utilities.

For my part, I'll give up our Pio CMX-5000 when it's pried from my cold, dead fingers. And I am sure it will still be working when that happens. :D

Yeah, back when dinosaurs ruled the earth.... :sqlaugh:
 
Yeah, back when dinosaurs ruled the earth.... :sqlaugh:
That's OK, Papa...

While the PC guys are tussling with Bill Gates and trying to figure out what he's up to at their gigs (and posting their horror stories afterwards), we'll be rockin' the shows with our Pio front end rig.

Bill Gates ain't in our Pio rig. ;)
 
Sooo, Ben will you be carrying Pioneer in the future? I'm needing to spend some cash pretty quick and I'll need to decide which way I'm going...:)
 
That's OK, Papa...

While the PC guys are tussling with Bill Gates and trying to figure out what he's up to at their gigs (and posting their horror stories afterwards), we'll be rockin' the shows with our Pio front end rig.

Bill Gates ain't in our Pio rig. ;)


Fred, I use both CDs and a lappy... Gotta do my part to make sure Faith eats...... and Pa has beer.
 
Fred, you are lucky The Goddess keeps my attention, you make my heart full....:sqrolleyes:
Thanks, Joe.

We've got Ed Price to thank ~ he went to PC and sold his Pio front end rig to us. Ed drove down from Jersey in June and we did a grad party together. Ed did a little mixing on the Pio and said he missed it.

I can't blame him. There nothing like working with those jog wheels. :)

I'm still kicking myself for selling the dual tray Pio karaoke deck I had. That was a nice machine.
 
Hey Fred. Did you ever consider adding the CMX 3000 to your set up? My cousin has this deck since 2004 and it's flawless. I think this was the one that came out when Pioneer discontinued the 5000.
 
Hey Fred. Did you ever consider adding the CMX 3000 to your set up? My cousin has this deck since 2004 and it's flawless. I think this was the one that came out when Pioneer discontinued the 5000.
Got the 5K already, John. I love this unit. It's my "piece". :)
 
Sooo, Ben will you be carrying Pioneer in the future? I'm needing to spend some cash pretty quick and I'll need to decide which way I'm going...:)

Yes, I'm quite certain that we will be. It's just a question of which way we'll go with it. There are different tiers we can participate on as a dealer, and we're trying to evaluate which will allow us to serve our customers the best.

Let me know what you're looking for.

Thanks,

Ben
 
I'd love to comment, but I just don't have enough information. I've heard a bunch of rumors, is all. One was music chips, a grownup version of what's used in toy mics, but storage capacity is so limited that I can't believe this to be true. Layered CDs was another one, supposedly to provide more recording density, giving better control over sound. There are others, but I just don't know. I'll keep digging though.

As for comments above, I'd like to add that I don't know ANYONE - even the staunchest MP3 supporter- who claims MP3s produce superior sound.


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I truly believe MP3s are a "bridge" technology, I switched from vinyl to tape, from tape to laser disc, and laser disc to CD. When the elusive "new" superior media arrives, I'll switch again. Why bother going through all this crap to convert to something that- even if I believed the MP3 hype, is at BEST an "equal" sound source.

As it stands, I simply have absolutely no reason to make any changes...:sqrolleyes:

Joe, is THIS the superior technology?


http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/105956


Buying music sans a physical backup (as in buying from iTunes) not your bag? Now you'll have an alternative to audio CDs. And no, I don't mean vinyl. SanDisk today is launching a brave new experiment in music sales: slotMusic, which puts audio tracks on a tiny microSD card and which will be sold, preloaded, at retail.

This isn't some podunk trial project: All four major music labels are onboard for the launch, as are Best Buy and Wal-Mart.

Why microSD? The format is being plugged as an alternative for users with music-capable mobile phones, many of which have microSD slots that go largely unused. A consumer can buy a card, pop it into his phone, and be immediately up and running, so there's no need to wait until you're back at your computer to purchase tracks online, and no need to rip a CD. (On the other hand, you will still have to actually physically purchase the music, but if you're out and about already...)

slotMusic will include DRM-free MP3 tracks, typically encoded at 320kbps, so users will get high fidelity music without having to worry about downgraded audio. Most slotMusic cards will be 1GB in capacity. Buyers will be free to back up the music to their hard drives at any time (each card will include a tiny USB adapter; an example—not slotMusic, but close enough—is pictured above), and of course they can overwrite a card later with other data when they're tired of listening to the music on it. Pricing will be dependent on retailers, but SanDisk tells me it will be competitive with CDs and "as expected."

Initially you can expect regular albums to be ported to the slotMusic format, but depending on its success, we might see labels making custom "mix cards" of popular tunes, which would seem to fit well with the grab-and-go consumer who's looking for something to listen to on his phone.

The million-dollar question, of course, is whether the market is big enough and interested enough for slotMusic. I'm a big fan of alternatives in the audio market, and slotMusic so far is hitting all the right notes—no DRM, high bitrate, ostensibly reasonable prices—but I wonder if consumers haven't moved past the "one piece of media, one album" mentality altogether. Also, swapping microSD cards on many phones can be a real pain (some have the card located underneath the battery, ugh), and the tiny cards will be incredibly easy to lose. No one will travel with more than one card in tow for fear of losing it along with his spare change. And even the cheapest MP3 player can crank out hundreds of songs instead of the mere dozen you'll get on a slotMusic card. If you meet a specific set of criteria—need music right away, have no MP3 player, and have a microSD slot on your phone—slotMusic will be a good solution for you. How many people that really comprises, I don't know.
 
Joe, is THIS the superior technology?


http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/105956


Buying music sans a physical backup (as in buying from iTunes) not your bag? Now you'll have an alternative to audio CDs. And no, I don't mean vinyl. SanDisk today is launching a brave new experiment in music sales: slotMusic, which puts audio tracks on a tiny microSD card and which will be sold, preloaded, at retail.


Though a cool marketing concept for the consumer, it is of no professional interest to me- still MP3s. Even the chip that I mentioned was still MP3. The only purpose for THAT was non-pirate-able media. The chips I spoke of were a kind of eprom. Any attempt to copy them would cause complete erasure.

Nope, the source has to be better than an MP3 to get me thinking about switching.

There is one good thing about the slot music- quality control. A non-pirated card will be as good as the manufacturing facility can make it. Still only a consumer item though....