My new light

Well, still no response...

As a business man, he should have answered my e-mail by now. By not doing so, I'd have to assume that he has something to hide and didn't want to respond.

I was ready to order a few of them, but am now looking for another option. His irritation at one or members at the show and lack of response to my inquiry, leads me to believe his claims about the unit are not what they seem.

However, I agree... she was HOT!

Tyrone Blue said:

His irritation at one or members at the show and lack of response to my inquiry, leads me to believe his claims about the unit are not what they seem.

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Totally agree!!! If somebody has another source, please tell us.

Wow as this topic is floating around on another board also, and I had purchased one of these as the MB show also and doing some research.

My gobo was smoking the other night with the 100w bulb after 10 sec

I was told at the show that the 100w fixture can use a custom printed gobo

I took apart my 100 watt unit on Thurs night, it has a EFP 100w 12v mr16 halogen bulb in it.

I called Goboman on Fri to ask if I can use a 75w bulb in the 100w fixture and the girl said no problem, I asked what bulb was the one in the 75w fixture as there is a EXN and a few other ones depending on a flood or spot beam. She didnt really want to give me the info as she was being lazy and I said can you look at a replacement bulb and she said she had to go to the warehouse and would call me back. I have yet to hear back from her. I might call on Monday again

I called my buddy here in ct who has the 75w fixture and told him to open it and let me know what bulb is in it well it does not say anythinh other than 12v 75w


I called bulb america out of nyc and the guy there said he sees no problem putting a 75w bulb in the fixture as you are going down in watts and the ceramic base has nothing stamped on it.

I went to home depot today and lowes and wallmart, none have a 75w 12v bulb there.

So I will be ordering online tonight from Bulb America. I will prob get a spot and a flood, and there are a couple of types of reflector shells. I am going to keep experimenting.

Dave Parks Spin Doctor DJ

Thanks Dave for all your assistance and spending the money to figure this out. I tried buying a 75w last year and couldn't find one. I had to get mine on line at the same place I believe.

I would be interested in what type of bulb works for you.

I had made a gobo on the printer the other night. After putting it on it started smoking a bit. I could tell if it was just lint on the glass or the film. I didn't notice the film melting at all. I then pulled the first lens about an inch or so away from the machine. The next two lens focused nicely. I ran the unit for about 15 mins with no problem. I'll keep trying also.

By the way, don't hold your breath for an answer from Goboman. I think he knows we're on to him.

CadDog said:

Will I hope you got 100watts bulb...

Where do you get $30...???

They were selling the units for

$75 for the 75 watts units
$85 for the 100 watts units

I think the bulbs are about $10 for 3 bulbs at home depot...

I too said that at the end I got a gobo light but
That wasn't what I thought I was getting.

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Sorry, I can't handle the new math.:sqerr:

The 75w at the show was $65.
On his site they are $69

The 100w at the show was $85
On his site they are $99

I guess that's where I got the $30 from. On his site there is a $30 difference. Only $20 from the show price. Still, the bulbs are under $3 on line. I'm not faulting him for trying to make a profit, I just don't like being taken or deceived. Nothing I can do about it now but inform others before they buy so they know what they are getting. Placing the stickers on the 100w stickers on the box over the 75w is deceptive.

I'm a little disturbed...

When I talked to Steve... he assured me that ink jet transparencies would work just fine. He showed me the one he was using, and it seemed a LOT heavier duty than an overhead transparency film that I'm used to. Maybe the one he had on display was a laser transparency or heavier plastic... I don't know.

I called Ben and asked if he could shed some light on this subject. He told me that there isn't a "reliable" unit that he is personally aware of that properly handles transparencies, but he would do some research for the benefit of our members, and report back. Give him some time and he'll get us the facts.

Tyrone,

Thank you for taking the extra effort to get this information. I appreciate it.

Ben,
Thank you for helping us out. This shows what an upstanding businessman and person you are. This isn't even your product but you'll go above and beyond anyway.


I don't mean to keep harping on this but after reading all these posts I think the Goboman is somewhat of a snake oil salesman.

I don't know how to go about this but Mobile Beat should be aware of what many of us have experienced with this product. I don't believe the Goboman is a reputable, truthful, dealer nor should he be part of the vendors at this show. With so many new DJ's attending these shows, that's just another group of naive people he can sell to. Remember, we are the consumer, we have the right to question.


Steve,

Are you sure the 100 watt version doesn't have a larger transformer rated for the bigger bulb?

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I'm not sure. But then again neither was the guy selling the product. I was told to take it apart and find out for myself.

I think it comes down to what we were told was not the case. I know Scotties 75w works just fine. No one that I read about had tried the 100w. Since the salesman stated we could do the same with in regards to transparencies with the 100w, why not get a brighter bulb? Guess we were taken. For me thats just a learning purchase. Someday I'll learn "you get what you pay for". My intent was just to share my experience with anyone considering purchasing these units. This way they have correct and truthful information.

Thanks Ron and like a few others here I feel your pain...

I told was told that it would work with the 100w unit.
She even show me that they had some there do just that...

I'm sure you saw them. The showmen on a yellow background I think...

Anyway, the film was round with what looked like a paper border...

I should of looked harder at what she was showing me and less at her...

My bad...

*****
On a good note...
I sold my first Gobo to a client yesterday...
She loved the idea of see their names up in lights...

Understandable CatDog!

Asked what would be best..

Ron Auger said:

Ah, the old bait and switch. Watch the pretty girl as they sell you what you cannot see. I fell for that as well.:sqerr:

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Back a couple of months ago when guys were debating using the IKEA gobo solution and or the Goboman, I decided to get the Goboman because of Scotties work with it and because IKEA in my area were not helpful in getting a unit.

I simple called the "Goboman" via phone told him I had heard about certain models that looked alike 75W / 100W were burning tranparancys and he was very forth coming in suggesting the use of the 75 watt version although I was ready to spring for the more expensive model.

So at that time I told him what I was going to do and what I wanted to use it for along with what material I expected to use in it and got the answer of what product would be best (75 watt).

Your mileage may vary but I was content he gave me his best guess of what would work best.

GoboMan 75 Watt vs 100 Watt

This is to address the gentleman who walked into my busy booth at MBLV implying that I was cheating him and merely switchig lamps inside the GoboMan projectors and charging an additional $20.00, trying to pass the unit off as different.
Well I have never cheated anybody,and I am in this business for the long haul.

The units are different, and I offer anyone interested in seeing the interior pictures of the 75 watt unit vs the 100 watt unit. It is clear to see in the pictures or to anyone who opens their units that the 100 watt unit has two fans, also a much larger transformer, and different circuit board.I am happy to email you the pictures just let me know at [email protected]
As for the stickers and boxes. they are not something I sit and stickon. The units are a low cost item and are not worth the cost of reprinting a new boxes. Any of you who have bhad to have anything printed before can appreaciate this.
I explained all of this to this person and offered a 100% refund, but still it was not enough, to the point that other customers in the booth felt uncomfortable. Yes, they called and told me.I welcome any questions any of you might have on either fixture preferably not in the middle of a busy trade show situation. If anyone needs help with where they are supposed to place the gobos properly or any other questions, please let me [email protected]

Thank you Steve. I met you in MBLV, and I enjoyed the short talk we had.

I was the guy talking to you about DJ Scottie.

Ron, you have never once attempted to ask how to properly install the transparencies or even operate the unit for best results, but you assume you know the correct way, and it is most likely wrong.
You are trying to buy a $60 to 80$ gobo light made in China, and make your own gobos and then get the results of professional gear. Try buying a steel Gobo for $59.95.
If you think it is such a terrible projector and GoboMan should not be allowed to exhibit at MB go speak to Cubby from Mobil Beat, he has used the unit with great results and never bitched once.
As far as the light bulb goes, we get whatever the units ship with from China, and offer spare lamps for $3.95.We don't claim to be in the lamp business.
GoboMan responds to all emails, so stop claiming you never got an answer.
If I sound irratated its because of people like you Ron that never contact us directly but instead slam us online.

GoboMan Projector Facts vs Fiction

I am still waiting for anybody to take me up on the offer to see the pictures of the difference electronicly between the 100 watt goboman projector and the 75 watt GoboMan unit.
Maybe besides looking at the pictures, you want to put your money where your mouth is, and I will send you both units FREE and you can open them and look for yourself, then you can tell the truth for once and for all and look inside and tell us what you see. For that matter anyone on this board who has a 75 watt unit can tell you that there is only one fan, and anyone who has a 100 watt unit can tell you there are two fans in their unit without even having to open the projector.
Truth is ,you got an answer you didn't want to hear in the booth and it wasn't good enough for you so you had to go on and on. So try to step up to the plate and find out the real truth before you accuse people of using a bait and switch tactic or trying to profit from a $3.00 light bulb.
[email protected] for pictures anytime
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Thank you Steve...

Would you explain which type of gobo you had right next to the lens on the unit on the table? When we talked, I wasn't exactly sure if it was an inkjet or laser transparency. Some here have commented that the ink on their transparencies is smoking and melting.

Here's an offer for you. Send me a unit to fully test and evaluate, and I'll send you back a check if I decide to keep it. If not, I'll send the unit back to you ASAP, and you can sell it as a demo.

I'll run it through everything as fairly as possible and test it in a club setting and I'll take pictures. If you agree, I'd be willing to let you use my evaluation for your own purposes or promotion. Fair offer?

Steve and Ron, while it was fine to present both of your sides, maybe now it is time to take this private? As most of us know, we strive for as little friction on this board as possible.

This is to address the gentleman who walked into my busy booth at MBLV implying that I was cheating him and merely switchig lamps inside the GoboMan projectors and charging an additional $20.00, trying to pass the unit off as different.

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Now this is the attitude of a business man I really want to do business with. Read my posts closely. You were alone. I gave you the respect of being alone. It was 12noon and the show just opened, no one was in your booth. I had a legitimate concern about a product that you could only answer by tell me to take it apart. You got all defensive about the sticker issue etc. I apparently was the only one who approached you with questions yet others here have had the same questions. I've had issues with other vendors and products before. I ask them questions, they give me answers. Non of them get all upset and worked up over it. You sell a cheap products, you even admitted it before selling it to me. I purchased it knowing it was a cheap product. Now I know better and have learned a lesson. Don't buy cheap products.

Ron, you have never once attempted to ask how to properly install the transparencies or even operate the unit for best results, but you assume you know the correct way, and it is most likely wrong.

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Stick around, you haven't read anything yet. And with your 3 posts you must know. Please show me where I said I know the correct way. Show me where anyone knows the correct way. Again, read these posts carefully before you make a statement. I never had a problem with the transparencies except for a little smoking, just working out issues like everyone else. I haven't had one burn up on me yet. Other guys have though. Why don't you try attacking them. This is not the only board others are talking about the working of this unit. I clearly stated of what you told me in Vegas to everyone. No exaggerations no lies. Just what you told me I repeated. It's in one of my first posts. I reported my findings that's it.

If you can't handle product reviews you should read them. We are the consumers and we choose what we buy. When we have issues, we the consumer will discuss it. If I was the only one here with these concerns I'd take a second look but as you can see on this board and others there are many more people.

OK...

Time to "chill" and give clear heads a chance to prevail. No more slamming permitted. I don't want to have to over edit any more posts.

We've heard both sides... now for some legitimate facts. Stay tuned.