It would be interesting to see how fast the phone would start ringing, that's for sure.
Make Extra Money By Making Music
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It would be interesting to see how fast the phone would start ringing, that's for sure.
Don't laugh too hard Houston...
You would be absolutely amazed, at the number of high end DJs that get their music that way! I'm talking folks who charge $1k - 3k per gig.
I have to deal with them every day. Makes my programming life a bit harder, but I'm not the music police, and am very adept at keeping my mouth shut (client/programmer privilege)
I've found that in many cases, the folks that bitch the loudest about illegal music and low-baller DJs, are usually the worst offenders of the "rules"
So - not talking about the illegality of obtaining the music in this argument but why so many haters over a dj school? I actually think it's a great idea and whatever dj came up with it is thinking outside of the box. In this economy where people are using their iPods, nephew Cletus, etc for their dj alternative it's a brilliant way to make some extra money.
What's wrong with showing other people that would like to learn how to become a dj how to actually do it? We all had to start somewhere, right? Maybe we didn't go through a dj school but we all learned somehow...I guess there COULD be those that go to the school that care nothing about music but if they end up sucking, they will go away anyway...and who cares anyway?
This is just another variation of the old argument that I've heard for over 15 yrs since I've been in the biz.....it goes something like this "(8-tracks, cassettes, cds, mp3's, iPods, now DJ SCHOOLS) are going to bring out all the bedroom djs and wanna be's! They'll take our gigs!!!"
....sigh....
I guess this could be the case if that is your market but it's not mine. People that are willing to spend $1200 plus is my market and they wouldn't look twice at an iPod or Cletus or some guy that just graduated from dj school. Am I worried that I would lose gigs to them at all? Not a bit....
What's wrong with showing other people that would like to learn how to become a dj how to actually do it? We all had to start somewhere, right? Maybe we didn't go through a dj school but we all learned somehow...I guess there COULD be those that go to the school that care nothing about music but if they end up sucking, they will go away anyway...and who cares anyway?
This is just another variation of the old argument that I've heard for over 15 yrs since I've been in the biz.....it goes something like this "(8-tracks, cassettes, cds, mp3's, iPods, now DJ SCHOOLS) are going to bring out all the bedroom djs and wanna be's! They'll take our gigs!!!"
....sigh....
I guess this could be the case if that is your market but it's not mine. People that are willing to spend $1200 plus is my market and they wouldn't look twice at an iPod or Cletus or some guy that just graduated from dj school. Am I worried that I would lose gigs to them at all? Not a bit....
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This is not to say you or DJ schools wrong, just that it is doubtful it is the best way. A school can give you a bunch of information quickly and even teach you things like how to beat match. There are other intangibles like customer relations, venue relations and accounts receivable (I do work...now you give me many dolla, oops wrong post) that is difficult to learn in a fixed length class that in most cases will probably cost too much for what they give you.
An internship, finding someone that will show you the ropes is most likely the best way to go. Work, assist an established pro, learn by doing and in the long run it will work out better for most people. Some old DJ will probably enjoy the company and not having to carry those heavy speakers for several months.
This is not to say you or DJ schools wrong, just that it is doubtful it is the best way. A school can give you a bunch of information quickly and even teach you things like how to beat match. There are other intangibles like customer relations, venue relations and accounts receivable (I do work...now you give me many dolla, oops wrong post) that is difficult to learn in a fixed length class that in most cases will probably cost too much for what they give you.
An internship, finding someone that will show you the ropes is most likely the best way to go. Work, assist an established pro, learn by doing and in the long run it will work out better for most people. Some old DJ will probably enjoy the company and not having to carry those heavy speakers for several months.
Usually when something like this comes out in an industry is after the market has been saturated. Same as real Estate etc.
Now that's funny right there, that deserves some rep.
I don't think DJ school is a bad thing per say. As long as it isn't done in some back ally rented hotel conference room. How much are you really going to learn in a 3-4 hour session with as many 'students' crammed in as possible? Who are the 'teachers'? Is it just me or do most of these DJs school's seem to pop up only to part nitwits with their money? The common denominator is these 'schools' seem to play on the cool factor of being a DJ, fast money and flocks of honeys.
Think about it, you can teach a monkey to hit play on one deck and slide the crossfader over. It's not rocket science. The mechanics of setup and take down are pretty easy once you get the basics down again not rocket science.
You really think these 'schools' are teaching the important stuff like selecting equipment, setting up and taking down your equipment, basic trouble shooting, business practices, and customer relations?
As for reading the crowd and knowing how to select songs, I don't think that can be taught in a hands on setting or through a textbook. You either have it or your don't. Sure over time you hone your skills by experience but you either have an affinity for music or not. You're either good at reading people or your not.
Just my .02,
Dan
There's a DJ in a nearby town who has a "certification" from this school, which he uses as a selling point. This school appears to have been around for awhile.... http://www.famedjschool.com/
It's not my cup of tea, that's for sure. I don't think I'd learn much, since I'm DJing for fun and not looking for a quick buck. Then again, perhaps I should offer to teach a course on music appreciation.
It's not my cup of tea, that's for sure. I don't think I'd learn much, since I'm DJing for fun and not looking for a quick buck. Then again, perhaps I should offer to teach a course on music appreciation.
I agree with most of you that learning from a mentor is definitely the best way to go about things...and yes, there are some things that cannot be taught in a school. I guess there is more than one way to skin a cat and the school is an option...not the best option but it's there. I think it would be cool to teach one and have a very few select students...have numerous on site training sessions...have it be long term, etc.
DjDennis
RIP- My Dad (2011), Sister (2013) and Mum (2017)
yes I am Certified as well
no wonder new djs are bringing down this business
none of them have any TALENT
no wonder new djs are bringing down this business
none of them have any TALENT