Mackies on Ebay...Should I ???

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have them send a picture of the back panel with knobs etc and have it big enough to read one of two things
1.Made In Italy

2. Made in China

If they are #2 its an okay deal. If from Italy and deemed in good playing shape it is quite a great deal. Go For it.
 
My guesstimate: $700 to 800 @ closing

I would not be surprised to see the price hit $700 to $800 and there is always the chance that someone with more money than sense bids them right up to AND I've seen beyond retail price. The pictures are very clear. The speakers are marked as made in USA.

Here is the way to bid on E-Bay. Do your research. Determine the maximum price you are willing to pay. Shortly before the auction ends load up that maximum bid after logging on. At less than fifteen seconds before closing press the confirm bid button.

E-Bay is not really an auction. It is much closer to a sealed bid except if you open your envelope early the other bidders can decide to out bid you.
 
have them send a picture of the back panel with knobs etc and have it big enough to read one of two things
1.Made In Italy

2. Made in China

If they are #2 its an okay deal. If from Italy and deemed in good playing shape it is quite a great deal. Go For it.

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But it has been a while since I looked at any 450's panels.
 
It shouldn't be necessary

While you certainly could turn down the input sensitivity with each use, you shouldn't need to do so. Certainly it does no harm. On the other hand could you imagine a large event where each time a venue activates their power amps someone has to turn up the input sensitivity? External or internal it is just a line level signal going to a power amp.

If you don't like that argument, the owner used the auto shut-off feature and simply allowed them to power down after no signal was applied for a few minutes.
 
Balanced is right!

I have never "turned down" the input gain on any amp to shut it down. In fact it would be just adding wear to a part that doesn't need to be worn. Once the gain sensitivity is set for your system it really should ever need to be touched again unless you are changing the setup.
 
You guys are geniuses!!!

I was always under the impression that one had to turn the gain to zero before shutting down. Would it be more accurate to say this applies to a passive system?

Good things to know, and I'm glad we are filled with people who know this stuff.
 
Tyrone,

All the input sensitivity setting is really for is to balance the gain chain, it is not a volume control. If your mixer reaches unity gain at 1.4volts and the amps reach unity at 1.0 volt then the sensitivity can be reduced to match those levels. Amps from the same or different makers cover a wide range of input voltages from .75 up to 2.25. Mixers also have many different unity points some at 1.0 some as high as 2.0, some mixers have adjustable output gains. But with a little work on the gain chain every piece of gear can be setup to hit unity at the same point.

In the not to distant past an amp would produce a large thump when turned off many you could avoid this thump by turning down the gains before cutting power. Now the vast majority of amps (including powered speakers) have a soft turn on and off so even the thump is not an issue. A bigger issue with thump is people who don't turn their systems on or off in the proper sequence.
 
Unity gain

I agree with Steve's post but would just like to add that too often too much has been made of unity gain. All unity gain signifies is a gain of 1. A signal equal to what is coming in the input is going out the output. There is no universally accepted standard for unity gain. Was that a balanced or unbalanced line level signal? Most signal processors have a built in gain of 6db (there are exceptions) but these devices are generally viewed as possessing unity gain (line level in, line level out).

The positions of the input sensitivity controls on amps are set relative to what comes before and goes after. There is no absolute correct setting except in the scheme of the entire system. The escutcheon on the power amp volume control (this includes powered speakers) is there as a general reference not as any hard and fast rule.
 
I agree that it shouldn't be necessary to turn them down prior to deactivation, but you should move the setting from time to time. Pots (potentiometers) need the be moved occasionally to keep them from getting "noisy".
 
In the not to distant past an amp would produce a large thump when turned off many you could avoid this thump by turning down the gains before cutting power. Now the vast majority of amps (including powered speakers) have a soft turn on and off so even the thump is not an issue. A bigger issue with thump is people who don't turn their systems on or off in the proper sequence.

Thanks Steve for the Info, I guess it's always been a Habbit for me to
Lower all Levels before powering Off.
 
Back to the main topic.

2 Mackie SRM450 @ $785 as of Saturday and three days to go.
 
Not a bad guesstimate.

Was anybody still interested in this thread?

The Mackie SRM450's went for $810.00. Ten bucks off the estimate.

You might want to note that the winner bid as I suggested, wait until the last moment.