Limewire shuts down...sort of

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jokerswild said:
I find it quite ironic that you put it that way.... now they are in the position of being pirated and lose money like they have caused other company's and the music industry to lose money because of them.... now the shoe is on the other foot...

Does the happy dance: :yoweeblewobble:
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I don't think they will ever get to the point where piracy could hurt them. Limewire as a business plan right now would be like opening a hamburger shop next to McDonalds

Steve Cie said:
When you look at the BIG picture, shutting down these illegal file sharing sites is actually a good thing for our industry.

Too many low ball priced DJ's have secured their music libraries at no cost to themselves via web sites such as Limewire and Napster. This puts them at an unfair competitive level to legitimate businesses.

Give the recording artists their due and purchase your music.
There are several very good subscription services out there and they are, in the broad term, affordable. it is simply a cost of doing business.

TM Studios, Promo Only, ERG, Rhapsody, I-Tunes to name a few!~
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I don't know if I could fully agree with you Steve. Around here I am one of the very few that are legal and I am also one of the busiest and one of the highest priced. Nowhere in my marketing do I mention legal library. I really don't think piracy hurts this business anywhere near as much as bad DJs do.

All in all music is cheap and most that get in to the business have some collection to start with so they just need filler and new music. I suspect for less than $2000 you could be up and running with a reasonably solid library these days.

Christ I remember back in the mid 80s paying $4.99 for a 45 and around $15 or so for an album now you can legally download them for less than a buck. Other than keeping the prices down a bit the Pirates aren't to blame for the woes in the DJ business
 
Certainly your logic is totally sound....but I'll have to ask you this:

Do you feel that you are competing with someone who's charging a low fee due to the fact that music is cheap or of nonexistent cost?

Is this factor (Cost of music) the ONLY difference between your service and his/hers?

I think not.

Frankly, given the availability of information out here on the Internet, anyone who decides to book a DJ for a rock bottom fee GETS WHAT THEY PAY FOR, AND GETS WHAT THEY DESERVE.

Remember, a client who has a prospective "legit gig" has made a conscious decision to book a cheap crappy DJ. Your only fault is that you charge a respectable fee.

You can't fix stupid, either on the part of a client, or a pirate.;)

ahoustondj said:
Just as how it has been stated that clients don't know the difference between good sound and bad sound...the problem is... by the time they find out the sound is bad. it is then too late. Someone has been paid and a legit gig has now been lost to unfair competition. There are lots of clients who are out looking for "A DJ" they erroneously think that all DJs are alike.

Now if the Pirated Music was not available you will then have somewhat of a more fair comparison/competition between a good business vs a bad business. Someone with talent and good gear vs someone who has no talent and maybe crappy gear. Without the pirated music there would be less competition in the mix.

Lets face it, the music material is the most expensive component of the business. You may buy gear and stop but its is a constant continuance of updating new music that increases the cost.
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I still work for a record company locally called "Temp International"
and I still get CDs there as well....

http://www.tempo-music.com

and got this email today from a mate about limewire

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Steve Cie said:
Too many low ball priced DJ's have secured their music libraries at no cost to themselves via web sites such as Limewire and Napster. This puts them at an unfair competitive level to legitimate businesses.
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Throw in the fact that they're more entertaining and you old farts are screwed :triwink:.
 
DJ SVO said:
Yes they exist however the stores are not selling them. That's why I don't buy digital files. I still purchase the CD's and convert them. Once Amazon, iTunes or whatever reseller has such a format available I'll be buying said files ;)
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The "mainstream" stores aren't selling them, primarily because the "mainstream" isn't clamoring for this.

Here's a site that sells HD downloads:

https://www.hdtracks.com/

also:

http://www.rhino.com/shop/format/Digital

Apparently, there WAS a site called Musicgiants.com selling lossless files, but they went bankrupt.

Additionally, some artists' sites will be selling HD downloads, directly.

Just because you cannot find specialty produce at Walmart doesn't mean you can't get it.
 
lol thats because they knew they was stealing music!!!!!!!!!!!!

I say tough for them
 
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