If I had it all to do over again...

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No, I would not say that I would not do it. I thought about that as an answer but I really did enjoy DJing when I was active.

For those of you that know how I got into the business I won't bore you with the details. Simply put, I initially got in to satisfy a need for my father; he was commander of his American Legion post, they wanted to have social events, he thought music would be a good thing for them, and he asked me to do that. Later on I left the business because of his illness. He died. I got married. Then I got back in the business.

Now, when I got back in I mostly did it to fulfill another need. We were throwing a surprise birthday party for my mom, I wanted a DJ but the experience I had with the multi-op from my wedding was not a happy one, so, I thought I could do a better job. I bought some basic equipment, augmented the CD collection I already had, and DJed her party. In my mind, I did a great job; well, my mom, wife, and some of the attendees thought I did as well.

OK, so its around 2000, I have this gear and I have the internet. I did some basic research on DJs in the area and did some market testing. Now, also remember that to this point I am a hobbyist; any money taken in in the past went to gear and that's about it; I had no clue what to charge for a real gig, I had no clue that there were CD services out there, and I was operating with rudimentary CD equipment and an augmented personal CD library.

Sounds like a mess in the making doesn't it?

My first job as a professional DJ was a wedding. Well, I had done these before in the hobbyist version and I had been to plenty with DJs so I had the basic knowledge. The internet gave me the general gist of the format and that helped considerably. Also, fortunately for me, a friend of a friend that became a friend had been DJing for over 20 years at that point took me under his wing. The old friend was also breaking into club DJing at the time as well and all three of us formed the first version of Good Knight Entertainment. The rest is history.

Now, what would I have done differently?

I should have done more market research before even hanging the shingle out. At the time there were several multi-ops that were keeping the prices low and they have grown like weeds ever since. I did not know that at the time and if I had I may have just relegated the equipment I bought to home use or sold it and moved on.

I should have taken advantage of the assistance of the two friends but not formed a company with them. One of them turned out to be very unreliable and the other one started pumping the company (me more than anything else) for money to buy equipment. The second part caused the company to end up with some useless stuff. The unreliable friend caused some reputation hits when he was late on a few occasions; he also caused some booking issues when he decided to back out on me at the last minute a few times. The big lesson here is keep your friends as your friends but don't go into business with them. I ended up pulling away from those two and just made the company me.

A business and marketing plan might have been nice. I did those later. I also developed a three and five year plan. The three year had the priority items and the five year had some directions that evolved over time. Both of those helped but it would have been better to have them in the beginning. I also developed mission and vision statements and they should have been done at the beginning.

In 2000 the music dynamic was starting to make some radical changes. That took us to where we are now and I think today's music is absolute garbage. I should have tracked that sooner and maybe I would have gotten out sooner.

I should have developed an understanding of demographics sooner. Now, I have had this argument many times before on this board and others; demographics plays a significant role in what you do as a DJ. Demographic factors are age, sex, race, and, to a small degree, religious background of your audience. The religious background relates to their interpretation of morality. Towards the end I started asking demographic questions in interviews and that did help me craft a decent initial play list.

Finally, I should have been more selective. I should have just stayed away from the "pre-planned" events; that is, the events in which the planner already has the play list and won't deviate. I should have also stayed in my comfort zone of weddings and basic parties and never done school functions, sweet sixteens, kid parties, or Mitzvahs.

Well, that's it for now. I am sure I will think of more. I hope you find this useful.
 
Not sure how you want this thread to go, but here's my 2 cents worth on my journey,,,
I had always collected music from early teen years on up to married life, mostly Motown/Soul/Carolina Beach Music,, I had always had a dream of being on the radio, getting a tape recorder on one of my teen birthdays, made shows etc, played radio. So on to life and about 35 years old, I was in banking and always dealt with the Chamber of Commerce and such, making tapes and giving away, playing friends partys for free, etc. And come a couple weeks before New years eve, I get a call from a Friend who had a great Italian Restaurant, how much will you charge to do a party . thus a first paying gig, I think that gig paid 150.00 drinks and food. but it was a start this was 1984, rented equipment for abput 3 years before i finally got my own. Later still in banking I had a customer who owned 3 radio stations, I always loved to call on him , we would talk old time radio and the DX'ing people did and music. I told him he needed to put some Carolina Beach Music on the stations, he looked me square in the eye and said Jerry you do it, thus Jerry Peeler's Myrtle Beach Days radio show was born, it lasted some ten years. Ive had a lot of fun and do more mobile DJ'ing now than ever,, Im going to ride it out!!!!
 
No regrets here. I've probably made more mistakes than anybody. However, if I didn't make those mistakes, I wouldn't have learned from them. When I started, I didn't have a group of other professionals I could listen to and learn from their mistakes too like I do now. If I didn't have the experience, I probably wouldn't be smart enough to listen to others anyway.

Music right now is garbage? It doesn't matter what year you are talking about. The fact of the matter is every year there is "popular" music that ends up not being very good when reflected back. Go back to any year and you'll see some songs that you hardly recognize because they got very little play after the fad wore off. But some songs stand the test of time. Just like some songs will from this last decade. It's understandable that someone doesn't like a certain decade or genre. However, there is nothing special about this decade...or any other decade. If you want to compare garbage, i can find plenty of songs from the 70's and 80's that were really really bad. Kajagoogoo?

And I love 70's and 80's music, because there was some great music from those decades too.
 
I wouldn't beat yourself up over it. You are more than the sum total of your DJ adventures.

Two things stand out to me about your story.

1. Conspicuously missing is a personal passion for DJing.
2. You alwasy approached it as a means to please someone (if not everyone) else.

Those of us who made careers out of this had a passion for doing it long before it ever served a purpose. We did it even when no one wanted us too, no one would pay us, or no one was listening. The only person we needed to prove anything to was ourselves. Ultimately what we learned to do got people's attention and landed us good paying work.

Everyone I know in this field who is a career professional is glued to it by something that goes far beyond any kind of gear, business plan, or type of event. They all have a unique and very personal passion for what they've created with it. When you love what you do for it's own sake - it transcends the need for appreciation and recognition from an otherwise disinterested public and egotistical peer group (which so many DJs seem desperate to find.)
 
Proformance is spot-on. Me, I always and still do love music. I also love a big happy crowd on the dance floor dancing to my tunes. Best high ever!

Regrets, NONE. Wishes: ...sure...more gigs! I'd like to break new music, however it seems my crowds want what's popular, and I'm too old to deal with club/bar work. I don't sweat it though. I'd like more outside gigs in the good weather too.

I have big passion for my wedding clients and making sure all the i's are dotted and t's crossed long before the reception date. I also like the clients I've had, I did a wedding for a guy that's a real studio pro, he's recorded some national acts.......and another who led an Eagles tribute band that played all over the US. These guys hired me for my quality equipment, paid well and got what they expected. what a way to get the gig!

Best,

Paul
 
Nice Pro and Beem,
Spot on and why I say there are the few who have that passion. I have always said as long as I could afford to keep my library up to date, if it became the rule of thumb that DJs were no longer paid to play, I would simply do it for free. That being said I also realize that my skills and my knowledge are worth more than the average and mostly due to the Passion. Saturday night I was honored with working a West Indian Wedding with my DJ partner. He smoked a somewhat passive crowd as he realized he had to take them to another level. His performance one of the best I have ever witnessed. I had a part in it but he is the West Indian specialist which I am now learning beings I am in this region now. His passion and love for the specific music and his want to take it to another level left people saying who is this guy. I simply say my friend and business partner David a real DJ.
 
Well... in Tom's defense, this business ain't what it was 15 years ago. But what business is?

We see two issues that have done serious harm to the mobile DJ business over the past few years: a poor economy that won't let loose and the ease of anyone who has blood pressure being able to play music for a crowd with little to no monetary investment.

The economy speaks for itself; people have been losing their jobs, their homes and aren't able (or willing) to fund a party or celebration, let alone pay somebody upwards of $100.00 per hour or more to play music at a function.

The gigs may be there but the money isn't, my friends. And if there's no profit in it, there's no business.

Ease of DJing... hell, anyone with a SmartPhone or laptop and inexpensive powered speaker system can market himself as a DJ now. Yas don't have to buy music anymore... it's all free on the Internet. Somebody is all the time selling HDDs loaded with most of the music you'll ever need.

If I had it to do over, I'd have shut down around 2000. Saved us a lot of money and a lot of work. :)
 
Ease of DJing... hell, anyone with a SmartPhone or laptop and inexpensive powered speaker system can market himself as a DJ now. Yas don't have to buy music anymore... it's all free on the Internet. Somebody is all the time selling HDDs loaded with most of the music you'll ever need.

I do agree that there is a lot of this going on. Nothing can be done about that. If a client just wants someone to just show up and put some music on, there are lots and lots of options. Having music and speakers isn't very special...or worth a whole lot today.

The only way I see a DJ being able to survive today is to do MUCH more that just play some music. We need to add a lot of value. Some of these hacks are actually driving business our way. I just recently got a card from a bride I did a wedding for 2 months ago. In her thank you note, she said they were just at a reception and everybody that was at hers kept commenting on how much better the entertainment was at her wedding than the one they were at. She said now could truly tell others the difference of the things we did that just don't happen with every DJ.

Some people don't get it. Some people don't need it. Some simply cannot afford it. But some do and some can. We need to be able to stand out from the crowd of wannabe DJs. Some say there are too many DJs. I say there is not nearly enough really good DJs.
 
Like some of the others here, when I started DJing in the early '70s there was not a support group of older wiser DJs to give me advice. The only time another DJ wanted to meet with you was to either steal your 'schtick' or steal your clients- it was a very hostile environment down here. Luckily that has changed tremendously. However after 35 years in the business, the passion is still there but the $$ isn't. The reasons are many:
1) the economy in general- Fla is one of the hardest hit states
2) I live in a horrible market that is dominated by a multi-op that has been around 30 yrs & has a very good reputation (the bad thing is, his DJs are good)
3) I'm too expensive- with 35 yrs experience I'm not going to charge entry level prices
3 1/2) every time you lower your price as a favor or to be competitive, it comes back to bite you in the arse
4) I'm getting older-yes, that is becoming a factor- most brides don't want to hire a DJ as old or older than their grandfather

So I'm transitioning from DJ into doing high end laser shows. While I would like to say I'd still DJ for free, the electric company and credit card companies don't adhere to that particular train of thought. I know of some DJs that are waiting for the pendulum to (hopefully) swing back to 'the way it was', but with today's technology I don't see that happening, and can see the full time single-op going the way of cassettes and Betamax
 
Well... in Tom's defense, this business ain't what it was 15 years ago. But what business is?

We see two issues that have done serious harm to the mobile DJ business over the past few years: a poor economy that won't let loose and the ease of anyone who has blood pressure being able to play music for a crowd with little to no monetary investment.

The economy speaks for itself; people have been losing their jobs, their homes and aren't able (or willing) to fund a party or celebration, let alone pay somebody upwards of $100.00 per hour or more to play music at a function.

The gigs may be there but the money isn't, my friends. And if there's no profit in it, there's no business.

Ease of DJing... hell, anyone with a SmartPhone or laptop and inexpensive powered speaker system can market himself as a DJ now. Yas don't have to buy music anymore... it's all free on the Internet. Somebody is all the time selling HDDs loaded with most of the music you'll ever need.

If I had it to do over, I'd have shut down around 2000. Saved us a lot of money and a lot of work. :)

I disagree. The economy has been bad before, and easy costless substututes have been around since the record-changer and recordable cassette tape. Computers simply reduce the labor necessary to make that substitution. It's true that audio-visual media is more user friendly - but, the low or no cost DJ has always been with us in very large numbers. IMHO blaming the internet is a cop-out.

Bad economies shake out those on a weak footing - something you can find with people both on the way in and way out of this business.

I also disagree that you need to do more than "just play music." That's only true if your active music profile is constrained to one or more of the typical mobile DJ boulevards. (i.e. you tend to identify yourself as a wedding DJ, school dance DJ, or other "specialty") In this business "specialty" is a code word for "single recipe." A lot of DJs who exit - do so as a direct result of their chosen "specialty" and the resulting lack of adaptability and diversity. It takes a hell of a lot of effort to continually succeed when selling to just one type of client.
 
I have to agree with Bob on the one point emphatically as I have spent all of my career in deep study of music and learning ethnic music along with multiple genres comparable to the best of the best in each realm has allowed me to fill dates succesfully for the better part of my 39 yrs oh wait my career is now 40yrs long as I began in the fall of 71 in Radio 40 yrs ago.
 
My story is like Tom as well, but in 1990. If I had to do it again, not sure what I would have changed. Well, knowing now - probably would have approached weddings better in the mid 90s and learned the true value of what DJs were really worth (no peer support at the time).

Took my mom's advice and dress up nice and do site visits (schmooze w/ the venue directors) and learn networking.

Beyond that, not much more. Great topic, BTW.
 
Two things stand out to me about your story.

1. Conspicuously missing is a personal passion for DJing.
2. You alwasy approached it as a means to please someone (if not everyone) else.

Bob:

Belevie me, the passion was there. Really, it still is. It isn't as often but I do break out the gear at the lodge from time to time just because I feel like it.

In regard to "pleasing someone", yes, that was the push that got me in or back in. Some type of driver has to be there to get the action started and that was it.
 
Bob, you are free to disagree as you wish... but your disagreement doesn't change the facts.

Delmarva has been hit hard by the poor economy. Poverty is on the rise, queues at the soup kitchens are lengthening. Industries have closed their plants. Thousands of people have lost their livelihoods and their homes. Folks around here aren't spending a lot of money on DJ companies. That's just the way it is.

That's also the way it is in Tom's market which is just across the state line.

On a side note, we are old and dear friends with Tom and his missus, have been for many years. We've visited back and forth. Tom's phone used to ring off the hook... I was there in his living room when it was happening. Our phone rang, too. But the phones aren't ringing like that anymore.

Not that we haven't been booking. We have. And unfortunately, we've had more upscale show cancellations these past few years than I've ever seen during my 18 years in this business. The local companies are scrounging for what we charged in 1993 ~ when they're working at all.

I'm talking about the economy right now, right here, today, not a utopian economy that may or may not happen in years to come. There is very little in the way of upscale shows in this area now. That's a fact, my friend.

Don't take my word for it ~ come on down here to Lower, Slower Delaware and start up a DJ company. Run it for a year or so and let me know if you still disagree. :)
 
No major complaints with DJ'ing itself -- it paid the bills for my toys, I got laid a lot, and I even did it full time to pay the bills when needed. It was/is, also a lot of fun.

I will say it was probably not a great move to get into the DJ software business though. It's been my experience, that DJs have no issue paying for gear, but many are more than likely to grab hacked versions of software, and get their music through other than legal channels. Being a US based company is a large liability in this biz, when the offshore/foreign companies don't have to pay the same licensing fees we do, because their laws are much different.


Had I known what I know now -- I would have sold all my gear in the 80's, invested in Microsoft and Apple, and be sitting in a hot tub on my megayacht right now... ;) :)
 
Not that we haven't been booking. We have. And unfortunately, we've had more upscale show cancellations these past few years than I've ever seen during my 18 years in this business. The local companies are scrounging for what we charged in 1993 ~ when they're working at all.

I thought it was just me...We have had 6 cancelations since January the most ever in one year...And they aren't going with someone else just not having the event.
 
Dj'ing is kinda like football, got to know who we are playing and who for, like last weeks wedding was so simple and easy, all they wanted was first dance songs, intros , bouquet/garter and a little bit of dance music, I have played soritories and had 5 hot chicks in my face(nice) wanting to know what was next, had drunks spitting on me, then you got a wise ass that wants to be a dj in your face, so we have offense/defense/special teams, recruiting, etc,,
 
Maybe, just maybe, as the first generation of full time DJs start reaching retirement age, we are discovering that being a mobile DJ is not a long term career path.

Just throwing that out there to see where it goes
 
I don't see the market as shifting, i see the market as EVOLVING.

For many mobiles their bread and butter may be one type of event, but limiting yourself only hurts your pocketbook. If you are deigning to be a wedding dj full-time, it's a investment and a challenge, but it can be done.

Because there will be people with money, and they want to spend it.

For me, it's the music and the show. Always has, always will. I was a am/fm jock before I got into the mobile business, and I still love to do broadcasts with my other former jock friends, albeit from the internet. There's something about being able to reach out to people with music, and really provoke a reaction, and its what keeps me coming back, over and over.

Has the musical landscape changed? Hell yeah! For the bad? No. Anyone who complains that there's nothing new and nothing good isn't looking hard enough.

Sure, there have been periods where pop music has ground itself into a slurry of crap, and that wasn't helped by the formerly massive pr machine that the record companies had. But that's pop music. Some new music I can't stand. I hate kanye's "all of the lights" because of the annoying percussion in it. It grates on my last nerve. A lot of soulja boy's music makes me gag. It's almost "retardo rap". But people like it, they want to hear it, and I play it.