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What is the salary being drawn on the $35,000 or revenue per year?

Equipment doesn't earn a salary, Dude.

I'm asking you to determine the value of this equipment at a specific point in time.

Let's add one more:

An integral part of this gear breaks down in the year 1999. The replacement cost of this gear is $5800 (assume proportaionality). The cost of repair is $1,800 and the repair is typically effective for 4 years. Should I fix this or replace it?
 
An integral part of this gear breaks down in the year 1999. The replacement cost of this gear is $5800 (assume proportaionality). The cost of repair is $1,800 and the repair is typically effective for 4 years. Should I fix this or replace it?

Wiser to replace but more benifical tax wise to repair I believe
 
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Proformance said:
I buy $17,500 of equipment in 1993. It will soon turn 15 years old. Assume all of this gear is still in use and it has a useful life of 15 years. It costs an average of $235 /year to keep this gear in working condition. Each year this equipment is used it generates and average of $35,000. The average inflation rate during this period is 2%. Other anual operating costs for this gear are $4,250. This gear is stored in a building that qualifies as a home office. The storage space alone represents 10% of the total home. The federal tax rate is 28%, my effective rate 16% and for simplicity you can ignore any state or local tax.

Bob, I had to look over your question a couple time to make sure I'm reading it correctly.

While there are several numbers that you've included, it appears that $235 + $4,250 are operational costs and not reinvestments or upgrades. You do not denote whether the storage space is included within the operating costs or as a separate deduction.

Missing information related to home office use:

Deductible mortgage interest and real estate taxes
Business expenses not related to the use of your home
Expenses allocable to business use of home Maintenance, insurance, and utilities

The actual CPI comparison:
Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis - Inflation Calculator

$17,500 in 1993 would cost $21,435.99 in 2001.
$17,500 in 1993 would cost $24,415.22 in 2006.
$17,500 in 1993 would cost $24,887.54 in 2007.

So to focus on what can be answered at this time using the MACRS Depreciation method (Modified Accelerated Cost Recovery System)

Proformance said:
What was the present value of this gear in 2001?

Assuming that all items were put into use Jan 1, 1993

Depending on the macrs amortization used...

179 expense in 1993, 2001 value would have already been depreciated out.

3yr macrs starting in 1993, 2001 value would have already been depreciated out.

5yr macrs starting in 1993, 2001 value would have already been depreciated out.

7yr macrs starting in 1993, 2001 value would have already been depreciated out.

10yr macrs starting in 1993, 2001 value would be $2,868.25.

15yr macrs starting in 1993, 2001 value would be $7,750.75.

20yr macrs starting in 1993, 2001 value would be $9,759.585.


Proformance said:
What will be it's present value in 2008?

Assuming that all items were put into use Jan 1, 1993

Depending on the macrs amortization used...

179 expense in 1993, 2008 value would have already been depreciated out.

3yr macrs starting in 1993, 2008 value would have already been depreciated out.

5yr macrs starting in 1993, 2008 value would have already been depreciated out.

7yr macrs starting in 1993, 2008 value would have already been depreciated out.

10yr macrs starting in 1993, 2008 value would have already been depreciated out.

15yr macrs starting in 1993, 2008 value would be $516.25.

20yr macrs starting in 1993, 2008 value would be $4,294.15.


Keep in mind that "useable life" does not infer the equipment has no resale value. The equipment may retain a certain measure of fair market value that can be sold. Keep in mind that any revenue generated from the resale of fully depreciated assets is considered taxable income.



Proformance said:
What would be the present value (2007) of that same $17,500 had I put it in a 15 year certificate of deposit at 5.25% ?

$35,821.81

Proformance said:
Dude Walker said:
What is the salary being drawn on the $35,000 of revenue per year?
Equipment doesn't earn a salary, Dude.

That is not what I asked. A salary can be drawn against revenue generated by equipment.


Proformance said:
Let's add one more:

An integral part of this gear breaks down in the year 1999. The replacement cost of this
gear is $5800 (assume proportaionality). The cost of repair is $1,800 and the repair is
typically effective for 4 years. Should I fix this or replace it?

That can be subjective. A repair that typically lasts 4 years could fail in 4 hours. Depending on the warranty, if any, that accompanies the repair...one would need to be compare the value of repair vs replacement against any MACRS depreciation left.

My first inclination would to repair the item. UNLESS a tax benefit existed and/or a replacement option had improved features and a warranty that would exceed the repairs effective life.

Examples:

if a staff member blows an engine in a van at 100,000 miles and the body is in good shape, little to no rust. Solid front end, transmission, brakes... I would most likely replace the engine.

if a staff member blows an engine in a van at 200,000 miles and the body is in fair shape, some rust. Decent front end, transmission, with 20,000 miles on a brake job... I would most likely NOT replace the engine.


Almost there...
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Dude,

I didn't ask you for the depreciated value.
There is no missing data, just extraneous information.

I can tell you don't understand the questions.

I don't think this practice of labelling other DJs "ignorant" about their business is going to suit you well in the long term.

PS:
Certificates of Deposit are compounded monthly, so the answer is $36,437.47

I'll leave you some time to figure out the rest.
 
Proformance said:
I didn't ask you for the depreciated value.

Bob, you asked for value. You qualified it as used for business. What other "value" would you mean?

Proformance said:
There is no missing data, just extraneous information.

Well Bob, normally when people create story problems they are looking for a specific answers.

It appeared that you intended to ask a question with regards to your extraneous information, but simply worded the problem poorly without an end objective.

Proformance said:
I can tell you don't understand the questions.

Bob, I fully anticipated that you had an ulterior motive.


Proformance said:
PS:
Certificates of Deposit are compounded monthly, so the answer is $36,437.47

Bob, you are incorrect.

Here's why:

Certificates of Deposit can be compounded monthly, quarterly, semi-annually & annually.

I'm sure you thought you were being clever when you stated 5.25%. However, without an APR or frequency compound, it was only safe to stay on the conservative side using 5.25% as your term yield compounded annually.

Had you stated 5.25% "APR" compounded monthly you would have garnered a term yield of 5.38% over the 15 year term.

Bob, why do you seek validation in wanton attempts to invalidate others?


Here’s an old math brain teaser for you:

Three people check into a hotel. They pay $30 to the manager and go to their room. The manager finds out that the room rate is $25 and gives $5 to the bellboy to return. On the way to the room the bellboy reasons that $5 would be difficult to share among three people so he pockets $2 and gives $1 to each person. Now each person paid $10 and got back $1. So they paid $9 each, totaling $27. The bellboy has $2, totaling $29. Where is the remaining dollar?


Getting closer...

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Bob,Three people check into a hotel. They pay $30 to the manager and go to their room. The manager finds out that the room rate is $25 and gives $5 to the bellboy to return. On the way to the room the bellboy reasons that $5 would be difficult to share among three people so he pockets $2 and gives $1 to each person. Now each person paid $10 and got back $1. So they paid $9 each, totaling $27. The bellboy has $2, totaling $29. Where is the remaining dollar?
Dude,

[Edited -- Bounce]] $25 divided by 3 don't make $8!
 
.. you asked for value. You qualified it as used for business. What other "value" would you mean?

The one I asked for.

.. normally when people create [word] problems they are looking for a specific answer.

Yes, a specific numerical answer.

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You don't have a clue do you?

..and your Bellboy wouldn't be missing a dollar if you'd learn not to add where you should be subtracting. They didn't pay $27 they paid $25.
 
..and your Bellboy wouldn't be missing a dollar if you'd learn not to add where you should be subtracting. They didn't pay $27 they paid $25.

Bob, Steve...

Thank you for showing your obvious contempt via your inferences. :nono:

However, there is no "YOU" in the matter.

These are academic brain teasers that have been around for years...


http://www.genarts.com/karl/puzzles.html Search for "Hotel Bellboy"

http://www.brainbashers.com/showpuz...eld=ctop10a&page=1&puzzletext=All+Time+Top+10 Search for "Puzzle 3"
 
Dude,

It appears that "you" took the word "you" personally.

Why would you throw such a useless piece of garbage out here unless:

1. You couldn't figure it out.

Or

2. You thought you would show a little obvious contempt for those of us reading it.

Isn't there a Pie chart you could do showing 33.3333333333333333333333%?

If that is an example of an academic brain teaser, maybe I am glad I didn't go on to "higher" education.
 
I've got a degree in Electronics Engineering, and one in business as well, and despite that this thread has given me a headache.


How much do I need to charge? Whatever it takes to make the net profit percentage I want. You figure out what YOUR show costs you to produce ( because it doesn't matter a fat rat's a** what anyone elses' cost), add on what YOU want to make (because it doesn't matter a fat rat's a** what somebody else wants to make), and hustle for the job. TA DA !!!! Geez......
 
I'm sorry, Dude.

You seem so comfortable with contempt, we really didn't expect you to cry your way out.

Besides, isn't the intent to tease my brain, itself contemptable?

Anyway, thanks to Joe you've made 30 pages, Congrats!
 
I am sorry for the personal attack.

Bounce, could you PM me on what the edited protion was because I honestly don't remember what I had written.
 
Ya know....this thread should be sent to "archives" and given a decent burial.

And I thought you liked train wrecks Matt
 
Here is a 10 company production cost comparison for fiscal year 2005.

The criteria:

Each company has its name registered with the Secretary State.

Each company has at least 1 employee.

Each company has liability insurance.

Each company obtains music via music subscription services like Jones-TM Cent, RPM or ERG.

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Interesting stats between A and F. The two highest production costs along with company C and the complete opposite ends of the scale of Profit in the end. Show details on the two Dude so we can see the success and failure for dollars spent. Thanks! PS I would also like to see details on E.