How do you deal with a potential client who wants a price quote right away?

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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
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iWhat I'm stuck on is what equipment it will take to do the job right and then money. Not coming in with sub par stuff to do the job. Some events require much more than others.
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Some events REQUIRE more .. but they usually PAY more. When they AREN'T paying MORE, then they don't get MORE. Your June park gig is an example .. it's FREE, you won't get much paying business from it, so they should get what you bring instead of you running out to buy more. If you actually hoped to get business from it, cobbling together some speakers and amps isn't the right start.
 
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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
I'm stuck on is what equipment it will take to do the job right
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You're a DJ - you can do that job without any equipment at all provided you actually have a talent people will pay for.
I've done countless gigs where I brought only my head rack and music, or nothing at all.
I've rented gear to touring DJs who travel to this area with only their music.
Who provides the gear is immaterial if the vocation you care about is DJing.
Heck, even roadies get paid according to their skill level rather than how much or what kind of gear is used.
 
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steve149 said:
Is this one of those "Zero is a number" arguments??
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It's an argument that being a sound company is not a requirement for being a disc jockey. Someone else can provide the gear.
Getting stuck on the gear is typical of someone who's DJ talent isn't strong enough to stand on it's own. That person will compensate by making the conversation all about the gear rather than the social, relational, or promotional goals of the event.

I suppose this is where DJs who step out of the club have the advantage because, they already understand that the gear has nothing to do with why they get paid, and the conversation stays on topics that matter to the client.
 
Proformance said:
It's an argument that being a sound company is not a requirement for being a disc jockey. Someone else can provide the gear.
Getting stuck on the gear is typical of someone who's DJ talent isn't strong enough to stand on it's own. That person will compensate by making the conversation all about the gear rather than the social, relational, or promotional goals of the event.

I suppose this is where DJs who step out of the club have the advantage because, they already understand that the gear has nothing to do with why they get paid, and the conversation stays on topics that matter to the client.
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I realize all that .. it was just an observation on what you were labeling Mix as ...
 
steve149 said:
Some events REQUIRE more .. but they usually PAY more. When they AREN'T paying MORE, then they don't get MORE. Your June park gig is an example .. it's FREE, you won't get much paying business from it, so they should get what you bring instead of you running out to buy more. If you actually hoped to get business from it, cobbling together some speakers and amps isn't the right start.
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That's your opinion and you're welcome to it. I'm bringing the big guns because that's what is needed in that part of the park. It's not much different than what other DJs in that area bring. This is the biggest event I've ever done.
 
MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
That's your opinion and you're welcome to it. I'm bringing the big guns because that's what is needed in that part of the park. It's not much different than what other DJs in that area bring. This is the biggest event I've ever done.
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How many people you think will show up to your event. 300 or so?
 
Hmmm lets see, I did one job at the Philly Convention center with 3000 people with two tops and two subs. Plenty of sound and no issues. Was hired 6 more times for this company to go to different conventions around the country not because of my equipment but because of me. I think the Denver location had the most gear the sound company for that one brought in 6 tops and two subs for 5000 people and based on the length of the hall they had tops in different parts of the hall and then setup delays on them. Yet you are bring 400 speakers 16 amps to a park for 20 people. Again in your little area more is better because it is a "look"
thing not an actually what is needed thing.
 
Dj Jimmy D said:
Hmmm lets see, I did one job at the Philly Convention center with 3000 people with two tops and two subs. Plenty of sound and no issues. Was hired 6 more times for this company to go to different conventions around the country not because of my equipment but because of me. I think the Denver location had the most gear the sound company for that one brought in 6 tops and two subs for 5000 people and based on the length of the hall they had tops in different parts of the hall and then setup delays on them. Yet you are bring 400 speakers 16 amps to a park for 20 people. Again in your little area more is better because it is a "look"
thing not an actually what is needed thing.
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I was going to say something but never mind. DJ God's are so great what is there left to say?
 
Proformance said:
MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
...What I'm stuck on is what equipment it will take to do the job right and then money. Not coming in with sub par stuff to do the job.
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You're a DJ
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...and if you believe that, your understanding/definition of DJ is meaningless and your reading comprehension in this forum is non-existent...both maladies are, however, correctable.
 
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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
That's your opinion and you're welcome to it. I'm bringing the big guns because that's what is needed in that part of the park. It's not much different than what other DJs in that area bring. This is the biggest event I've ever done.
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Mix, I've done 500 people at an outdoor show with a pair of 15" 3 way tops and a pair of horn loaded subs. I probably could have used a second pair of subs, but that was it.

Do you ever go to the otherside and LISTEN .. either to your gear or others? More gear isn't always better unless it is the RIGHT gear, and run the RIGHT way. Otherwise, it can cause more issues to the sound than it helps with .. and that's not opinion.
 
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steve149 said:
Mix, I've done 500 people at an outdoor show with a pair of 15" 3 way tops and a pair of horn loaded subs. I probably could have used a second pair of subs, but that was it.

Do you ever go to the otherside and LISTEN .. either to your gear or others? More gear isn't always better unless it is the RIGHT gear, and run the RIGHT way. Otherwise, it can cause more issues to the sound than it helps with .. and that's not opinion.
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I hear you and I understand. In this park what you and others have suggested as far as equipment is concerned would not cut it for the space we will be in and the people attending the event.

Now we have an upcoming event we will be doing in Branch Brook Park the last Saturday in August again. We will probably bring in 2 double 15's, 2 monitors and 2 subs for that event. We could bring more but for the amount the guy wants to pay not happening. We're doing him a big favor doing it for the price he pays us. 2 different types of events and crowds.
 
MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
I hear you and I understand. In this park what you and others have suggested as far as equipment is concerned would not cut it for the space we will be in and the people attending the event.

Now we have an upcoming event we will be doing in Branch Brook Park the last Saturday in August again. We will probably bring in 2 double 15's, 2 monitors and 2 subs for that event. We could bring more but for the amount the guy wants to pay not happening. We're doing him a big favor doing it for the price he pays us. 2 different types of events and crowds.
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Why are you doing this "favor" for him? When is it a business and not a charity?

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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
I hear you and I understand. In this park what you and others have suggested as far as equipment is concerned would not cut it for the space we will be in and the people attending the event.

Now we have an upcoming event we will be doing in Branch Brook Park the last Saturday in August again. We will probably bring in 2 double 15's, 2 monitors and 2 subs for that event. We could bring more but for the amount the guy wants to pay not happening. We're doing him a big favor doing it for the price he pays us. 2 different types of events and crowds.
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Doesn’t seem like it’s different types of events and crowds... but rather a decision not to bring the right amount of equipment because you couldn’t get more money. I wouldn’t have even offered a lower than perfect option to him, as that’s my reputation on the line. If you don’t like the pay don’t do the job
 
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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
I hear you and I understand. In this park what you and others have suggested as far as equipment is concerned would not cut it for the space we will be in and the people attending the event.
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You may hear us, but you certainly don't understand. If you understood, then you would comprehend and heed the advice of professionals that have been there and done that.
 
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