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PS... Im not saying what Mike said won't work... but my personal opinion is that these conversations should be happening before the event, as making any issue of this at the event itself could make you or the hosts look bad and bringing unnecessary attention to a subject. If they in fact tell you ahead of time to make the annoucnement, its a little different. If you are the one making the decision for them without consulting on the matter, then that's not always going to over well.
 
PS... Im not saying what Mike said won't work... but my personal opinion is that these conversations should be happening before the event, as making any issue of this at the event itself could make you or the hosts look bad and bringing unnecessary attention to a subject. If they in fact tell you ahead of time to make the annoucnement, its a little different. If you are the one making the decision for them without consulting on the matter, then that's not always going to over well.

I can see it both ways and perhaps it is best to have this discussion with the parents (or school administrators or dance sponsors) before the event. I also can see it as taking the heat on behalf of the parents/admin/sponsors. I know in the last couple of christian school dances I've started out by telling the kids, "Hey guys, please don't scream out the curse words. Everybody cool with that?" The admins were relieved that they didn't have to be the heavy and it also gave me another chance to connect better with the kids, all while achieving the ultimate goal of better behavior. It put me in a better light with the people who were actually signing my checks.
 
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I can see it both ways and perhaps it is best to have this discussion with the parents (or school administrators or dance sponsors) before the event. I also can see it as taking the heat on behalf of the parents/admin/sponsors. I know in the last couple of christian school dances I've started out by telling the kids, "Hey guys, please don't scream out the curse words. Everybody cool with that?" The admins were relieved that they didn't have to be the heavy and it also gave me another chance to connect better with the kids, all while achieving the ultimate goal of better behavior. It put me in a better light with the people who were actually signing my checks.

It seems like for many of you in the rest of the country its more clear cut with what parents and schools expect. This is the email I got for the Sweet 16 I did last weekend when she emailed me her request list which was similar to yours. The Mom WAS CC'd in the email so she saw it as well.

"Hi Taso! I’m so sorry this list is so late I’ve been editing it a little everyday and I’m finally content with it. Don’t bother censoring the music"

How would many respond, when in fact the mom was well aware of this. I did call after to clarify something else, and did bring it up. It went a little something like this "Hi Mom, I don't know if you noticed, but your daughter mentioned to not censor the music..." before I could continue, she said "Oh yeah its fine, no ones going to complain, its mostly kids anyways". Now I responded by saying unfortunately most of my music is clean as I have to do proms and youth group events so I doubt I'll be playing dirty versions, and she said thats probably for the better anyways and its ok. But I can certainly imagine other dj's not caring and playing whatever version they have rather than trying to find clean versions that are not easily available.
 
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It seems like for many of you in the rest of the country its more clear cut with what parents and schools expect. This is the email I got for the Sweet 16 I did last weekend when she emailed me her request list which was similar to yours. The Mom WAS CC'd in the email so she saw it as well.

"Hi Taso! I’m so sorry this list is so late I’ve been editing it a little everyday and I’m finally content with it. Don’t bother censoring the music"

How would many respond, when in fact the mom was well aware of this. I did call after to clarify something else, and did bring it up. It went a little something like this "Hi Mom, I don't know if you noticed, but your daughter mentioned to not censor the music..." before I could continue, she said "Oh yeah its fine, no ones going to complain, its mostly kids anyways". Now I responded by saying unfortunately most of my music is clean as I have to do proms and youth group events so I doubt I'll be playing dirty versions, and she said thats probably for the better anyways and its ok. But I can certainly imagine other dj's not caring and playing whatever version they have rather than trying to find clean versions that are not easily available.

Yea, you definitely have a different world than here in the bible belt. On my proms, I generally have a tightrope to walk. The sponsors are usually either parents or teachers, and they're much more forgiving of explicit material. They'd rather put up with the language and keep the kids in the building than they would to have the kids leaving early and taking part in other activities (cough cough). It's usually the school Principals who are uptight about language so I have to keep it squeaky clean until he/she leaves, then it's more relaxed. At this past weekend's event, the mother told me that she just didn't me playing the explicit versions. She said it was okay if the kids were screaming the words as that was their choice and not ours. Of course, she also did not have a bunch of parents in attendance either. I really do wish people would lighten up about the language around here.
 
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I really do wish people would lighten up about the language around here.

I'd prefer the songwriters to work on their innuendo instead of just putting up with the language.
 
I'd prefer the songwriters to work on their innuendo instead of just putting up with the language.

After listening thru that list of current crap this past week, I'm convinced there is no songwriting involved. Practically all of these were the same crappy drum machine pattern; I'm talking EXACTLY the same pattern between dozens of songs. And the vocals weren't even well-recorded. I'm convinced most of them are just some hood rats that gathered up enough drug money to buy some studio time where they'd mumble and fumble thru some kind of drugged-out lyrics they were making up, on the spot. I mean, I thought it was bad 5 years ago. Now it's MUCH worse.
 
After listening thru that list of current crap this past week, I'm convinced there is no songwriting involved. Practically all of these were the same crappy drum machine pattern; I'm talking EXACTLY the same pattern between dozens of songs. And the vocals weren't even well-recorded. I'm convinced most of them are just some hood rats that gathered up enough drug money to buy some studio time where they'd mumble and fumble thru some kind of drugged-out lyrics they were making up, on the spot. I mean, I thought it was bad 5 years ago. Now it's MUCH worse.
Probably another reason Taso plays just 30 second cuts ... that's about it until they start repeating the same lyrics and choruses .. over and over.
 
There are plenty of "CLEAN" versions out there that I won't play at events where children will be present, or where there are groups who could be offended by the lyrics. "Take off your clothes and get into bed with me" is considered "clean".[emoji1] If they said; "Stay with me all night", I'd play it. There are a few songs I've played that the lyrics were incomprehensible to me, and I later found out they were vulgar.[emoji1]So now, I look up the lyrics to songs for which I cannot understand. I won't play Latin songs unless I can get a translation of the lyrics.[emoji4]


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Yea bro, you are right! I am making a cleaning in this town on doing shows! My music venue is total clean music, not just songs that say clean! There is a lot of music that has not so explicit content, just a little harder to find.... I have made my playlists from the kids that I play for!

There is a lot of talk on this website about offering something different than all of the other dj’s in you area!

I have done that. I play for schools that have hired a dj that played clean music (just music with the curse words bleeped out or skipped). I can keep kids dancing for 3 or 4 hours and after they are finished,,,, they don’t even know that they didn’t hear any direct sexual influences.
 
I totally agree and this is why I don't ever chase school dances or proms. The kids demand explicit material and the school administrators demand you don't play explicit, or even edited versions where the kids will still scream the bad words. It's a no-win situation.

I'm making an exception in trying to go after these larger scale productions and yes, it's for the money. You know, it also strikes me strange at how much difference there is in a sweet16 (my presumption as I've only done a few) and a prom in terms of dancing. At proms, the kids seem to know how to dance. Back the age up a year or two and they seem to have no clue. It's like Taso says, they run on out on the floor, stare at their phones and scream out the words to the songs. Even then, the interest only lasts about 30-45 seconds and then they're done with it.
rick,can u help me out.today im doing a kids party ades 9-14 can you email me like 20 newer songs that they would want to hear at [email protected] u so much for your help
 
rick,can u help me out.today im doing a kids party ades 9-14 can you email me like 20 newer songs that they would want to hear at [email protected] u so much for your help

Go look at the top of this thread. BTW, Taso is the expert at young'un lists.
 
The rap is not slow - you just have to know how to dance to it (double time.)
These teen events should include one or two dancers who can lead - which is what turns this music into a really cool dance set.
 
Doesn't work if the parents don't care... and in reality they don't (at least here in the more metro areas). This does in fact include schools... at least the schools that I sometimes work with, which are all high income areas and what many consider very safe towns. If anything you're setting yourself up for complaints if its a private event. The birthday girl will go complain to the mom and the mom will tell you its fine and just play whatever. In my office, I always get these song requests, and I often say to the parents don't worry, I have the clean versions of pretty much all these songs. Sometimes, and almost instantaneously, the bday girl will jump in and say can you not play the clean verses. The parents noticing the daughters distaste for clean versions will sometimes reply with "oh its ok you don't have to play the clean versions, its not like they haven't heard these words before". I still reply, that I pretty much only get clean versions because of schools and stuff that I dj, but that if I have a dirty version only, I won't refrain from playing it (I still don't play it though). Yes I still get parents that say no cursing, minimal rap, etc... but the majority is changing. Even weddings are saying they don't care either though. They just want to replicate their favorite club or bar when they go out, and they don't care for the clean versions. As far as weddings go... its definitely the minority, but I've seen those conversations happening a little more frequently than normal.

This is never an issue for me. I can't control the kids but, I can certainly determine the character of what I present and my terms of service are very clear on that.

I won't play any version that isn't clean - period. Ultimately, it's my sense of propriety and good taste and the kind of entertainer I want to be that matters. I won't even retain explicit tracks in my library. If the artist doesn't have enough talent to communicate cleanly I have no obligation to play or support their material.
 
This is never an issue for me. I can't control the kids but, I can certainly determine the character of what I present and my terms of service are very clear on that.

I won't play any version that isn't clean - period. Ultimately, it's my sense of propriety and good taste and the kind of entertainer I want to be that matters. I won't even retain explicit tracks in my library. If the artist doesn't have enough talent to communicate cleanly I have no obligation to play or support their material.
Trust me, all the music I get is clean too, but that doesn’t mean the dirty versions won’t be requested. I still only play the clean versions, and for the songs that don’t have clean versions I avoid. However, imagine having a candle ceremony where the song is only available on YouTube as a dirty version and both the kid and mom say to play the song as is as it is a big inside joke between them. They also said that there's no adults at the party just a tables worth of close family friends who wont care. A candle request is slightly more important and personal than just a dancing request, and can't be as easily avoided. I’ve had that happen to me... thankfully they changed their mind about it after some reconsideration and the dad stepping in... but one day it might be a similar request where they don’t reconsider.

In regards to dancers as mentioned above... one has to be aware of the market you’re working for. I’m successful with my clients up in north jersey and Philly because I DONT have dancers... being so close to the city, they behave differently than say the kids an hour out from the city and mention on the phone how it reminds the kids of mitzvahs and is corny. They’d rather dance on their own and in their own way, without someone telling them how, and It’s also why they don’t want me to do line dances at all. But then again... in my county which is 45 min south of NYC, they are all about the dancers and giveaways and routines. I also barely work in my immediate area, and is why I find my ideal client more closer to new york or philly. On the flip side, the dj's that offer dancers and such down by me, never work up north. They also charge $3500 on avg with significant more labor due to dancers, whereas I can charge the same on avg without dancers and lower expenses.
 
Trust me, all the music I get is clean too, but that doesn’t mean the dirty versions won’t be requested. I still only play the clean versions, and for the songs that don’t have clean versions I avoid. However, imagine having a candle ceremony where the song is only available on YouTube as a dirty version and both the kid and mom say to play the song as is as it is a big inside joke between them. They also said that there's no adults at the party just a tables worth of close family friends who wont care. A candle request is slightly more important and personal than just a dancing request, and can't be as easily avoided. I’ve had that happen to me... thankfully they changed their mind about it after some reconsideration and the dad stepping in... but one day it might be a similar request where they don’t reconsider.

In regards to dancers as mentioned above... one has to be aware of the market you’re working for. I’m successful with my clients up in north jersey and Philly because I DONT have dancers... being so close to the city, they behave differently than say the kids an hour out from the city and mention on the phone how it reminds the kids of mitzvahs and is corny. They’d rather dance on their own and in their own way, without someone telling them how, and It’s also why they don’t want me to do line dances at all. But then again... in my county which is 45 min south of NYC, they are all about the dancers and giveaways and routines. I also barely work in my immediate area, and is why I find my ideal client more closer to new york or philly. On the flip side, the dj's that offer dancers and such down by me, never work up north. They also charge $3500 on avg with significant more labor due to dancers, whereas I can charge the same on avg without dancers and lower expenses.

Good on you for being sensitive to your clients' preferences. After having done my first full production Sweet16, I'd have given anything to have had a couple of dancers there. The kids at my event had absolutely no clue how to dance. Had I known then, I likely would have just paid dancers out of my own pocket.
 
Trust me, all the music I get is clean too, but that doesn’t mean the dirty versions won’t be requested. I still only play the clean versions, and for the songs that don’t have clean versions I avoid. However, imagine having a candle ceremony where the song is only available on YouTube as a dirty version and both the kid and mom say to play the song as is as it is a big inside joke between them. They also said that there's no adults at the party just a tables worth of close family friends who wont care. A candle request is slightly more important and personal than just a dancing request, and can't be as easily avoided. I’ve had that happen to me... thankfully they changed their mind about it after some reconsideration and the dad stepping in... but one day it might be a similar request where they don’t reconsider.

In regards to dancers as mentioned above... one has to be aware of the market you’re working for. I’m successful with my clients up in north jersey and Philly because I DONT have dancers... being so close to the city, they behave differently than say the kids an hour out from the city and mention on the phone how it reminds the kids of mitzvahs and is corny. They’d rather dance on their own and in their own way, without someone telling them how, and It’s also why they don’t want me to do line dances at all. But then again... in my county which is 45 min south of NYC, they are all about the dancers and giveaways and routines. I also barely work in my immediate area, and is why I find my ideal client more closer to new york or philly. On the flip side, the dj's that offer dancers and such down by me, never work up north. They also charge $3500 on avg with significant more labor due to dancers, whereas I can charge the same on avg without dancers and lower expenses.

Imagine it is all I can do because it has never happened and never will. I won't do it - especially for a candle lighting. The fact that Dad stepped in and prevented it indicates just how bad a decision it really is.

That's not to say it won't show up on a disc or playlist the family created for themselves but, that has also never happened. If someone were to insist on an explicit song they would have to bring it themselves and play it themselves - I would literally step out of the booth while they play it as guest DJ.

You only get one chance to earn your reputation. :)

I think there's some confusion here because it's not the client I'm trying to protect with my music selections - it's my business. If you want explicit music there are DJs who not only do that - but, go out of their way to obtain explicit versions of songs you wouldn't expect to have an explicit version.

Outside of a club that's never been me and it never will be.
 
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Imagine it is all I can do because it has never happened and never will. I won't do it - especially for a candle lighting. The fact that Dad stepped in and prevented it indicates just how bad a decision it really is.

That's not to say it won't show up on a disc or playlist the family created for themselves but, that has also never happened. If someone were to insist on an explicit song they would have to bring it themselves and play it themselves - I would literally step out of the booth while they play it as guest DJ.

You only get one chance to earn your reputation. :)
Fair approach... my actual response to them was fine I’ll play the song, but I’m gonna loop the introduction before the verse with any cursing. I think the fact that I wouldn’t play the verse they wanted most, along with dads persuasion, led them to changing it in the end. I too expressed my discomfort with the situation... the funny thing is how many djs don’t care about curses at all and let them drop all over the place regardless if it’s a formality or not.
 
... the funny thing is how many djs don’t care about curses at all and let them drop all over the place regardless if it’s a formality or not.

Those DJs don't have children.

Today's musicians and other DJs might not have any respect for my kids.. but I do, and I can be an example.
 
Fair approach... my actual response to them was fine I’ll play the song, but I’m gonna loop the introduction before the verse with any cursing. I think the fact that I wouldn’t play the verse they wanted most, along with dads persuasion, led them to changing it in the end. I too expressed my discomfort with the situation... the funny thing is how many djs don’t care about curses at all and let them drop all over the place regardless if it’s a formality or not.

Like others, I am also very aware of content and lyrics, especially for a young person event. While some of the adults present may not care (I can almost guarantee that there are adults that do), I do.
 
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