Get Bob Marley's Jamming and listen, the striking bell sound should always come from the left speaker/headphone...
Gigaport question - What outputs are left and right?
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David,
When I put on Jammin', the last thing I care about is which speaker the bell is coming out of...
I always use Rod Stewart - Reason To Believe, because I have 14 seconds to play with. You can also just go to Control Panel->Sound in Win7, highlight the device, click Properties->Advanced, and click Test. It will output left first, then right second.
drzinc's post regarding hearing the bell always out of the left channel got me thinking about somthing. :triconfused:
When you have Speaker Left and Speaker Right (as viewed from the dance floor) which channel is the Left Channel? The one on the Left or the one on the Right?
Now, when I look out over the dj station and view the dance floor is the Left speaker to my "Left" or is it to my "Right"?
What is the correct setup?
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When you have Speaker Left and Speaker Right (as viewed from the dance floor) which channel is the Left Channel? The one on the Left or the one on the Right?
Now, when I look out over the dj station and view the dance floor is the Left speaker to my "Left" or is it to my "Right"?
What is the correct setup?
[If this should be a separate thread, please convert. :trirolleyes:]
Picture yourself in the crowd -- which is left, and which is right?
They are looking at you.
Left channel should be to your right looking out, their left looking in.
They are looking at you.
Left channel should be to your right looking out, their left looking in.
It is easy -- if you take the time to learn and know your tools.
I'm not referring to the tool some seem to be preoccupied with... :yo1eye:
Ok, ? for Rick... do the Gigaports tend to sound distorted over time (during a gig)? Also, the very poor quality of source media (RPM/TMC) does NOT help in this regard. Put on my Crystal Waters 100% Pure Love and sounds awesome.
When I used the internal WT192L, don't recall as much funny business. So I have two berries I am going to try with and see how things sound.
I remember how clean my laptop system sounded on a single USB sound device - no distortions at all, so I might have hope yet.
When I used the internal WT192L, don't recall as much funny business. So I have two berries I am going to try with and see how things sound.
I remember how clean my laptop system sounded on a single USB sound device - no distortions at all, so I might have hope yet.
Not sure Ed...
They do draw a lot of power, so they may possibly overheat inside. I've never run one long enough to test that though.
I'd be more inclined to think they would be over driving components further down the chain, such as your amps and/or speakers. If they are putting out certain frequencies higher than others, they would obviously be feeding those amps a higher signal level in those bands, which could result in all sorts of weird heating and/or distortion issues that would grow over time...
To me that reply is slanted. It makes me wonder if you have stock in the Behringer Company. My Gigaport has worked flawlessly since 2006. You were correct in one regard, in that, most DJs mix internally. (I wonder how they would fare with two turntables spinning Vinyl, maybe a bunch of train wrecks would follow)
If the Gigaport has a heavy output, it is very easy to attenuate it, because it is among the first two components in the source. This is where good processing comes in. The main reason I use the Gigaport is, that first, it utilizes Only ONE port and second it gives me individual outputs for all four decks from Traktor including my preview deck. I would really like to have a Soundcard with 6 pairs of outputs. Is there such an animal?
Nah, no ulterior motive -- I don't play the stock market.
But, I do work with many sound cards -- each, and every single day. That is my job
There are sound cards out there with many outputs that you could use, but I doubt your software would handle them -- it is limited in its ability in that realm. I have nothing against Traktor, but it is limited, because they would like you to buy their hardware too. Serato is the same way, in that for it to work properly, you must use Rane hardware.
It's just the way certain companies work -- they make exclusive deals with hardware manus, or make their own hardware.
As to attenuating the Giga -- that's ludicrous IMHO. It's already gained up the output, and introduced the clipping and distortion. You can't fix what's already broken further down the chain. The best you can do, is limit the damage it does...
I don't have a problem with MY sound, only when other DJs using bad MP3s feed me overloaded signals! DBX 166 takes care of it!Nah, no ulterior motive -- I don't play the stock market.
But, I do work with many sound cards -- each, and every single day. That is my job
There are sound cards out there with many outputs that you could use, but I doubt your software would handle them -- it is limited in its ability in that realm. I have nothing against Traktor, but it is limited, because they would like you to buy their hardware too. Serato is the same way, in that for it to work properly, you must use Rane hardware.
It's just the way certain companies work -- they make exclusive deals with hardware manus, or make their own hardware.
As to attenuating the Giga -- that's ludicrous IMHO. It's already gained up the output, and introduced the clipping and distortion. You can't fix what's already broken further down the chain. The best you can do, is limit the damage it does...
Yer putting a band aid on a compound fracture
BTW, the "sound man" talk is irrelevant to this discussion -- what you feed through your mixers from sources other than your own, does not apply.
I guess what Rick is saying, is like an over clipped audio file will sound like crap - no matter what you apply down the chain. Again, I must hear this for myself and test away.
I can always use the internal HD but that would mean digging out more cables.
I can always use the internal HD but that would mean digging out more cables.
Rick's assessment of "mixing" always cracks me up.
"Mixing" is not the correct word for what he's describing. It is NOT possible to "mix" without a constant cue monitor, which is why a mix DJ uses a single cup headphone. (No, it's not because it looks cooler!)
"Mixing" is more than just where a song comes in - it's also about how it comes in, at what level, key, and then when, how, and what level the other one goes out. I may be playing at least two songs simultaneously for up to a full minute - and that can't be done without a constant cue monitor of the sync and pitch.
The notion that "software" relaxes the need for expanded talent and mix skills is misguided. At least so for anyone trying to make a career of it.
Mix DJs are mobile and are doing weddings - and ultimatley they will rule the higher end of this now narrowing market. It's 2011 people - and every bride/groom out there has grown up in a post-disco, hip-hop, MTv age where they know and recognize quality mixing and DJ skills.
The mantra on most "chat" sapce is that customers are stupid or don't care. That's not true. The whining is indicative of a large volume of under-qualified DJs who simply can't get recognized by virtue of their own self-limiting standards.
In "chat" it's sacrilegious to argue that: "if you can't mix your not a real DJ." Yet, what you or I think is secondary to the reality that in this age where anyone with a laptop or iPod is "DJ enabled" - customers do notice the difference and the perception of your value rises and falls accordingly. The designation "Real DJ" is bestowed by clients who open their wallets wider when it matters and it now matters more often than it ever did before.
Example: As last nights wedding reception was wrapping up the groom gave me a $100 tip. There was just 14 miuntes left and I had done everything they wanted and taken the party everywhere they wanted it to go. However, I knew there was one place we hadn't gone yet.
In those 14 minutes I played 7 high energy songs mixed and blended into a medley without missing a beat or a drop in momentum, and then said "goodn ight." The groom then returned and upped his tip with another $100. That's $7.61 per minute that I earned because of the way I mix.
Do the math, his tip was not a fluke. It was on top of the $1,850.00 invoice for this 4 hour wedding. If you want to earn upwards of $7 - $8 per minute - learn to mix.
Rick's assessment of "mixing" always cracks me up.
I'm happy I'm useful at some level... :yothumbsup:
Your idea of mixing, and my idea of mixing, are on two different wavelengths Bob...
I couldn't care less if two songs seamlessly transition, unless I was doing a club turnaround at the bar. In that case, I would pre-mix them in my studio, and just press play
At a mobile gig, I try and entertain. I do not care if the dance floor is packed the entire time, and in fact, many times I would not want people on it. Music is only part of being an entertainer, if that's what you call yourself.
A wedding for example, can be an emotional event for certain people there. Do you think those folks care that two beats are in sync...?
On the other hand, they might care that you transition between songs with a bit of improv, so the ladies can get their dresses back in order, the gentleman pull their belts up, etc. Perhaps they might need a potty break -- that's usually easy to spot.
I agree that seamless mixing can be a lot of fun for the person doing it -- but I also see little practical value in it, in real life mobile sitreps...