Facades

MIXMASTERMACHOM

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I hate a facade that uses scrim. I don't like the fact that the scrim can be easily torn. The one I have cost $500 plus tax for a lighted facade. It has 3 panels and yes each panel is heavy. It takes 2 people to move the panels and load them in the van. I plan to use it more often when I come back as I want a more classy look instead of using the black wooden one.
 

djcrazychris

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Jun 12, 2018
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I hate a facade that uses scrim. I don't like the fact that the scrim can be easily torn. The one I have cost $500 plus tax for a lighted facade. It has 3 panels and yes each panel is heavy. It takes 2 people to move the panels and load them in the van. I plan to use it more often when I come back as I want a more classy look instead of using the black wooden one.
lets see it!

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azdeejay

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Apr 1, 2015
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I still have yet to buy a facade, and I do think they have a time and place when they should be used. My opinion is I think facades can promote laziness when it comes cable management , me not having one forces me to keep my cable's as neat as I am able to, and if I had a facade, I know for 100% certain that I would not practice in good cable management .

no one should take that as me lookng down on Deejay's that do not keep their cables tidy that use a facade
 

djtaso

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I still have yet to buy a facade, and I do think they have a time and place when they should be used. My opinion is I think facades can promote laziness when it comes cable management , me not having one forces me to keep my cable's as neat as I am able to, and if I had a facade, I know for 100% certain that I would not practice in good cable management .

no one should take that as me lookng down on Deejay's that do not keep their cables tidy that use a facade
I don't believe it to be laziness.. I think it's just to look more attractive and unique. When you have a facade up, no one's thinking he was too lazy to clean... they're thinking, Wow thats a nice set up, or ive never seen that before.

True story that happened this weekend. A friend of mine that's a greek dj in nj, has a gf in Minnesota (long distance thing), and a few months ago he was asked to dj an event for their church in MN that took place this past weekend. So, he bought a small setup, around 2k to do gigs while he stays there since there aren't a lot of greek dj's. Nothing special... 2 jbl used powered speakers (prx models), pioneer sr controller, cheap mic, and a $200 facade from amazon, with 2 led strips behind it. He said that it was one of his best events ever... not because everyone danced... but bc of how amazed people were with him. Compliments all night from the beatmixing (multiple people told him they've never danced nonstop for so long like that in the greek line dance), to the mcing, but most notably... to his facade. Everyone said he had the nicest/fanciest set up they've ever seen, even though it was just 2 speakers on poles and a facade. In this industry, it's all about standing out, and doing what few others do is one of those ways (hopefully in a positive way of course).
 

azdeejay

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Apr 1, 2015
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I don't believe it to be laziness.. I think it's just to look more attractive and unique. When you have a facade up, no one's thinking he was too lazy to clean... they're thinking, Wow thats a nice set up, or ive never seen that before.

True story that happened this weekend. A friend of mine that's a greek dj in nj, has a gf in Minnesota (long distance thing), and a few months ago he was asked to dj an event for their church in MN that took place this past weekend. So, he bought a small setup, around 2k to do gigs while he stays there since there aren't a lot of greek dj's. Nothing special... 2 jbl used powered speakers (prx models), pioneer sr controller, cheap mic, and a $200 facade from amazon, with 2 led strips behind it. He said that it was one of his best events ever... not because everyone danced... but bc of how amazed people were with him. Compliments all night from the beatmixing (multiple people told him they've never danced nonstop for so long like that in the greek line dance), to the mcing, but most notably... to his facade. Everyone said he had the nicest/fanciest set up they've ever seen, even though it was just 2 speakers on poles and a facade. In this industry, it's all about standing out, and doing what few others do is one of those ways (hopefully in a positive way of course).
What I was trying to say, and speaking for me, I know for a fact that I would be less inclined to have good cable management if I used a facade, me not having one motivates me to take the time to have good , or to try and have good cable management , Ive lost count at the amount of times Ive seen from the behind the facade photos ands its rast nest of cables everywhere. Yes, I agree, its more about having an attractive setup, but it can lead to , lets say instead of being lazy, unmotivated about cleaning up the cables.

Its hard to stand out when you see soooooooooooooo many DJ's with two speakers on poles and a facade , that is and could be a part of the DJ starter pack meme, and one day, I too will have a facade with my two speakers over subs with a facade 🤣😆;)
 
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djtaso

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What I was trying to say, and speaking for me, I know for a fact that I would be less inclined to have good cable management if I used a facade, me not having one motivates me to take the time to have good , or to try and have good cable management , Ive lost count at the amount of times Ive seen from the behind the facade photos ands its rast nest of cables everywhere. Yes, I agree, its more about having an attractive setup, but it can lead to , lets say instead of being lazy, unmotivated about cleaning up the cables.

Its hard to stand out when you see soooooooooooooo many DJ's with two speakers on poles and a facade , that is and could be a part of the DJ starter pack meme, and one day, I too will have a facade with my two speakers over subs with a facade 🤣😆;)
I think to the general public... they see more djs without facades, than with facades. But personally speaking... my wires behind the facade are a MESS! On some events, I can have 16-20 extension cords going into my conditioner rack, plus speakers wires, plus 4 conditioners going out to the walls. Literally 20+ lines of wires running behind the facade... the last thing I care about is how clean those wires are. I only care about the walking paths, and the wires visible to the guests such as down the speaker poles and across the floor. But again, the setup w/ the most amazing wire management wont do a better job at impressing than a visually clean set up with a nice looking facade... despite how messy it is behind.
 
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Ausumm

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Everyone said he had the nicest/fanciest set up they've ever seen, even though it was just 2 speakers on poles and a facade. In this industry, it's all about standing out, and doing what few others do is one of those ways (hopefully in a positive way of course).
Evidently, a facade is a brand new fancy contraption in Minnesota!
 
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DJ Bobcat

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Nov 8, 2014
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Gotta agree with @djtaso on this... using a facade has nothing to do with being lazy. Before I built my facade, I used a cloth banner to drop from my tabletop to the floor in order to cover the back of my rolling rack. There’s really not a lot you can do to make electrical cords and audio cables plugged into patch panels on the rear of your rack look good. Mine were never messy, there’s just a bunch of ‘em. The banner was OK, but the facade is much better.
 

djtaso

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Evidently, a facade is a brand new fancy contraption in Minnesota!
lol he said the dj they had hired in the past for the event he did would just dj from a laptop and mixer (no controller, just one of those yamaha mixers) on a table and sit down half the time. Like I said, more people see the bad stuff out there than the good.
 

steve149

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Sep 26, 2011
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I use an Ultimate DJ table cover ( Amazon.com: Ultimate Support Ultimate 4-Foot Table Cover, Black USDJ4TCB: - None -: Musical Instruments - (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0077QTCM2/ref=twister_B01LXYLEHY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1) ) on my 4' table. It has slots in the 2 top front corners for cables to run into. You DO see the back of the cases, so I still have plans to make a table top facade (roughly 18") with a built in TV (depending on gig type might be client logo, monogram, my name, karaoke lyrics, animated meters, ..).
 
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djcrazychris

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I use an Ultimate DJ table cover ( Amazon.com: Ultimate Support Ultimate 4-Foot Table Cover, Black USDJ4TCB: - None -: Musical Instruments - (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0077QTCM2/ref=twister_B01LXYLEHY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1) ) on my 4' table. It has slots in the 2 top front corners for cables to run into. You DO see the back of the cases, so I still have plans to make a table top facade (roughly 18") with a built in TV (depending on gig type might be client logo, monogram, my name, karaoke lyrics, animated meters, ..).
i highly discourage the tv idea...on that size facade...you would have to go with such a small tv it would have zero impact.... either go with full sized facade or put the tv on a stand or truss and get something that anyone past table 1 can make out

uncle cc
 

steve149

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Sep 26, 2011
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i highly discourage the tv idea...on that size facade...you would have to go with such a small tv it would have zero impact.... either go with full sized facade or put the tv on a stand or truss and get something that anyone past table 1 can make out

uncle cc
It's more of a visual knick-knack than an actual screen ..
 

DJ Ricky B

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One could argue that using a facade is being less lazy than someone who does not use one. It is one more item to put in vehicle, load into venue, set up, tear down, pack away, and load back out of the venue.

My older brother does not like using a facade, and even does not want to use a table top facade because it's one more thing he has to bring. Although, he does admit he should have at least a table top facade for the appeal. ...He keeps saying it's the next thing he is buying, but he has been saying that for basically a year now, LOL. When he is ready to spend the $160 or so for a grundorf facade and carry case, he will pull the trigger and order one I guess, lol
 
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