Ducky & Jmac
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Mr. K:
Other than just saying "no", point by point, perhaps you could better illustrate your own views and experieneces on this topic.
Use what you want, as long as you get the job done! While I've heard lots of nutty theories from the general public about what D.J.s do and should do, I'm reading even odder ones from other D.J.s, and it blows my mind. YMMV.
You just said it yourself! I have two "gig" laptops (identical models), and several other backup plans (more details upon request). Neither of these machines are ever updated, nor put on the internet. Ever. I've got more redundancy than ever before, and have used it less than ever before. If I can reassure clients regularly that the sky isn't falling, do you still find it reasonable to think it is?
In my CD days, so have I, and I've always used the more expensive "name brands". I had several dual decks that would play either production CDs or CDRs, but not both. Currently, I have a huge music library on a hard drive that's a little larger than a pack of cigarettes. In the 90s, it was cases and cases of CDs and CDRs. My first CDR recorder is a huge boat anchor of a device that would record cdrs in real time, much like a cassette deck. I would compile my own collections of up to 74 minutes of music (there were no 80 minute blanks yet), oftentimes "Greatest Hits" collections from artists who (at the time) didn't have such a collection. But it would frustrate me to no end that sometimes after compiling such a project, the stupid thing wouldn't PLAY. Have you ever had a cd skip or "stick" for you, during a show?
First thing I realized, when I went to computer: either ALL my music will play, flawlessly, every time, or none of it will.
The space and weight savings and the fear of the sky falling have convinced me to be more backed up in more ways than ever before.
But I rarely use it.
Other than just saying "no", point by point, perhaps you could better illustrate your own views and experieneces on this topic.
Use what you want, as long as you get the job done! While I've heard lots of nutty theories from the general public about what D.J.s do and should do, I'm reading even odder ones from other D.J.s, and it blows my mind. YMMV.
You just said it yourself! I have two "gig" laptops (identical models), and several other backup plans (more details upon request). Neither of these machines are ever updated, nor put on the internet. Ever. I've got more redundancy than ever before, and have used it less than ever before. If I can reassure clients regularly that the sky isn't falling, do you still find it reasonable to think it is?
In my CD days, so have I, and I've always used the more expensive "name brands". I had several dual decks that would play either production CDs or CDRs, but not both. Currently, I have a huge music library on a hard drive that's a little larger than a pack of cigarettes. In the 90s, it was cases and cases of CDs and CDRs. My first CDR recorder is a huge boat anchor of a device that would record cdrs in real time, much like a cassette deck. I would compile my own collections of up to 74 minutes of music (there were no 80 minute blanks yet), oftentimes "Greatest Hits" collections from artists who (at the time) didn't have such a collection. But it would frustrate me to no end that sometimes after compiling such a project, the stupid thing wouldn't PLAY. Have you ever had a cd skip or "stick" for you, during a show?
First thing I realized, when I went to computer: either ALL my music will play, flawlessly, every time, or none of it will.
The space and weight savings and the fear of the sky falling have convinced me to be more backed up in more ways than ever before.
But I rarely use it.
GMTA
my wife & daughter tell me the same thing: NO LAPTOP for DJ-MC. They want to see me playing Uncompressed Data Files (44,000 kb/sec instead of 390), its like the difference between CD and cassette.
They also say that the "work" involved in manipulating the silver platters is what sets me apart, they see me working the CD decks, the cueing, the headphones.
I even mix during dinner now. I DON'T SIT DOWN at my events any more.
well said, except that its (eek) post 666....LOL
Matt,
I get compliments on my sound at most every event. I never sit down either. I mix the same as you.
There is no winning side to this argument. It's strictly preference and perception.
I get compliments on my sound at most every event. I never sit down either. I mix the same as you.
There is no winning side to this argument. It's strictly preference and perception.
Only other DJs worry about the legality of music source. Clients could give two shytes less. wrong additional, just for Steve: some of my clients say something similar to, "It's great that you have licensed music."
Just about every younger-than-35-years-old potential client is in possession of huge amounts of illegally downloaded, illegally copied, and pirated music, software, videos, and movies. while this is true, what the hell is your point? that it's okay for you to do it too? additional, just for Steve: I think that I have about five songs from Limewire, that I got from my niece, after I searched my thirty or so reputable on-line sources and four local shops. I even have a confession in a thread.
I love the argument about what if a laptop crashes. A cop out of total ignorance from another technologically challenged DJ who can't figure out computers. some of my clients would be offended if they read this, no thanks additional, just for Steve: I've had clients who have hired me at least in part because they have seen DJs' computers crash at parties, leaving them with nothing.
A digital DJ has more flexibility, redundancy, and backup resources on hand than I've seen any traditionalist have. that's not everybody's concern additional, just for Steve: this sounds like "fear mongering," saying, "Ooooooooh, your DJ with only two backups is not good enough...and ya gotta have that redundancy!"
Vinyl and CD jocks use that "hard drive crash" argument as an excuse for their own ineptitude or sheer laziness to take the next technological step, much like the vinylists said about the CD evolution (and still do 25 years later). It has little to do with the audio delivery system or legalities. I don't use that argument. People who have hired me have seen this. And it is not about being lazy. And, yes, I am just as inept about new technologies as you are about accepting others. additional, just for Steve: I think that I have explained this one fairly well.
Smart clients see right through that flimsy veil of yet another ridiculous fear tactic. I guarantee you that you use "ridiculous fear tactics," noted by what I just read, and no thanks again for noting that some clients are not so smart additional, just for Steve: note the "ridiculous fear tactic" that I noted above
Look in the above quoted area, apres BOLD. I hope I get a star!
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When someone finds a media that is completely full proof, please contact me at the number below. Until then, I'll use the media that I find will help me be the best DJ I can be...which happens to be computers.
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What a huge mess. Kinda like trying to organize stacks and stacks of vinyl records (and I own thousands of them).
In my hundreds of client meetings, this has come up maybe twice. How often does this realisitically come up for you, and how does the conversation "go there" in the first place?
Btw. a limewire-downloaded cd is just as illegal as a cdr burned from it, as are most "white label" vinyl pressings. One of the reasons I don't play vinyl in 2008 (among many) is because I don't think I could find current music to buy in that format.
I believe the point is: if they don't care (and I've found that most don't, if the subject even comes up), why should I? Ever have a client (illegally) offer you their music, if you don't have some odd request they want played, or even just something they think is cool that you ought to have? I have.
Then they didn't hire a professional who carries backup. It has nothing to do with the computer, it has to do with a poorly-prepared D.J. If you're using turntables, how many do you bring, and what do you do if one dies on you at an event? I can play on the bounciest of dancefloors via computer; the same rooms gave me pure hell trying to track vinyl in them, and had my tonearm weighted down so heavily (a quarter, I think) that I was tearing the grooves right out of my precious vinyl just to play them.
But discussing the D.J. whose computer died and left the client with nothing isn't fear-mongering? C'mon, you can't have it both ways. If you don't like fear tactics, at least practice what you preach.
Yes, you have.
In my hundreds of client meetings, this has come up maybe twice. How often does this realisitically come up for you, and how does the conversation "go there" in the first place?
Btw. a limewire-downloaded cd is just as illegal as a cdr burned from it, as are most "white label" vinyl pressings. One of the reasons I don't play vinyl in 2008 (among many) is because I don't think I could find current music to buy in that format.
I believe the point is: if they don't care (and I've found that most don't, if the subject even comes up), why should I? Ever have a client (illegally) offer you their music, if you don't have some odd request they want played, or even just something they think is cool that you ought to have? I have.
Then they didn't hire a professional who carries backup. It has nothing to do with the computer, it has to do with a poorly-prepared D.J. If you're using turntables, how many do you bring, and what do you do if one dies on you at an event? I can play on the bounciest of dancefloors via computer; the same rooms gave me pure hell trying to track vinyl in them, and had my tonearm weighted down so heavily (a quarter, I think) that I was tearing the grooves right out of my precious vinyl just to play them.
But discussing the D.J. whose computer died and left the client with nothing isn't fear-mongering? C'mon, you can't have it both ways. If you don't like fear tactics, at least practice what you preach.
Yes, you have.
1) Don't know if it's noble or not, but with those who answer MY listings, it would be the same, of course. Laptops play MP3s, remember?
2) Actually it's "most" of those who deal with you, as "most" of MY clients prefer the way I do it. This is why they come to each of us. Different preferences. Each of our experiences are valid, but only to US. This is why I add "in MY experience" when posting this sort of thing. It has been MY experience that productive inquiries ( productive = bookings) have gone up since this statement was added to the listing. in other words, I'm only saying it works for me.
The phrase "Licensed Manufacturers' Discs" doesn't just indicate the legality of my music. It is another way of saying that I don't use cheap or badly copied discs, and reinforces the fact that I don't use MP3s. The clients who comment understand this, and it has been another drawing point.
Since I'm running a business, if it didn't help, I wouldn't do it. I'm not arguing the merits of different mediums here, I'm just talking about advertising.
If D&D's ad draws business, it's a good one. If it doesn't, then it will require change. I merely stating that their type of advertising happened to work for me as well. Whew!
Steve, I am not you, so I would expect things to be different in my situations...should I be asking why certain topics DON'T come up for YOU? Absolutely not.
Steve, I show my clients my business license, music license, insurance cover page, and written feedback forms. And they like it.
Steve, I have floaties for my turntables, and I use MiniDiscs as backup.
Steve, I don't bring up the computer crashes with my clients. Can't you freaking read?
Steve, I show my clients my business license, music license, insurance cover page, and written feedback forms. And they like it.
Steve, I have floaties for my turntables, and I use MiniDiscs as backup.
Steve, I don't bring up the computer crashes with my clients. Can't you freaking read?
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A question is simply a question, unless you're paranoid. If YOU can read, you'll see I thanked you for showing me more about the relationships between the Beatles and The Rolling Stones. I learned information I didn't already know, which you shared with me. Isn't that one of the goals in a forum? Your tendency to blurb and/or quote everything makes getting actual information out of some of your posts difficult.
I type and hit the "reply" button. I haven't found a "retaliate" button yet.
I won't comment on how you look.
I type and hit the "reply" button. I haven't found a "retaliate" button yet.
I won't comment on how you look.