DJ Laidback Luke is recommending Deejaying with your phone now

dunlopj said:

Proformance, one big difference...years ago when the I Pod wedding complaints from DJ's started, it was due to losing gigs.

This thread is about DJ's EMBRACING all this new technology. Please comment if I misunderstood.

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That was always a lie.
iPod weddings INCREASED my bookings and revenue because it vastly expanded my audio rental requests. People claiming iPod weddings were cutting into their business - never had a business to begin with; their "losses" imaginary. iPod weddings were a way to EXPAND our presence in the marketplace and grow our business.

What do any of you use and why? I use Denon DN MC 6000 controller, laptop, portable HD, Yamaha DSR 115 speakers, Pioneer EFX 500 and Shure BLX dual wireless H11 mics. I don't always use the Pioneer EFX 500. I love what I use. It works well for me.

My partner just bought a Numark stand alone controller from GC. I reminded him about the 15% discount depending on how much an item cost.

My point is what works for one DJ may not work for another DJ.

Algoriddim released the newest version of djay Pro (5.0). It has some pretty amazing updates. They improved their version of Stems by A LOT! They also have some new smart beat gridding technology that can adjust fro songs with varying tempos and the new transition effects are pretty neat as well. I am moving towards using this on my iPad with my iPhones as a back up after some more extensive testing.

View: https://youtu.be/q51NrXBZciY

Okay, dumb question. Anytime I'm using my phone (rarely) to play a track, a phone call comes in and it mutes the audio. Fortunately, if you have it on silent then the ringer doesn't come thru the system but still, you have an annoying drop-out of the music. Wouldn't the same thing happen with an ios DJ software?

rickryan.com said:

Okay, dumb question. Anytime I'm using my phone (rarely) to play a track, a phone call comes in and it mutes the audio. Fortunately, if you have it on silent then the ringer doesn't come thru the system but still, you have an annoying drop-out of the music. Wouldn't the same thing happen with an ios DJ software?

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You will only see the call notification banner show at the top of the screen momentarily. There is no audio drop out and the phone doesn't ring.

Jeff Romard said:

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There are those who still use turntables.

If you spend some thoughtful time observing people of this generation who attempt to do EVERYTHING using their phone or tablet - you realize just how much TIME of their lives is being wasted. They'll never get back those minutes (which add to hours, days, weeks, months, years) of their life spent on tech, They'll also never learn the basic skills that provide confidence and security in once's life. They are surrendering themselves instead to the service of their tech dependency.

I use my phone for music - NEVER. It's not the purpose for which I have a phone. I've never owned a pair "ear buds" or anything similar. Audio head gear is not part of my apparel, I listen to the REAL world at nearly all times.

Proformance said:

If you spend some thoughtful time observing people of this generation who attempt to do EVERYTHING using their phone or tablet - you realize just how much TIME of their lives is being wasted. They'll never get back those minutes (which add to hours, days, weeks, months, years) of their life spent on tech, They'll also never learn the basic skills that provide confidence and security in once's life. They are surrendering themselves instead to the service of their tech dependency.

I use my phone for music - NEVER. It's not the purpose for which I have a phone. I've never owned a pair "ear buds" or anything similar. Audio head gear is not part of may apparel, I listen to the REAL world at nearly all times.

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What is your problem? If a person wants to use their phone to DJ with, what's the problem? It's about what works best for the individual. There are things that others use that I would never use. People are not going to look at what the DJ is using and say that DJ shouldn't be using that. All they will be concerned about is the results.

For me, I have about 20k songs stored each on my phone and my iPad. They can dj an event. I have used my iPad for small situations. But they are primarily for emergency back up.
I prefer physical buttons and I like my dj software.

i use airpods often and noise cancellation headphones on airplanes.

Thanks for the clarification guys. I admit, I've used my iPhone with Spotify in the past few years. It's usually just flying in a track that I don't already have pre-loaded, and so far the audio hasn't dropped out, but it still makes me nervous.

MIXMASTERMACHOM said:

If a person wants to use their phone to DJ with, what's the problem? ..... All they will be concerned about is the results.

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It's patently unprofessional - and the result is a loss of credibility.

The phone is a consumer device - making it the brain-center of a professional sound system for hire is a form of fraud.

Proformance said:

It's patently unprofessional - and the result is a loss of credibility.

The phone is a consumer device - making it the brain-center of a professional sound system for hire is a form of fraud.

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You talk about using technology. I use VDJ. Isn't that being technical? There are those who use their phone to DJ with in case of an emergency. My partner used his phone to play a certain song that a guest requested. It worked and it helped to play the song. Again it's all about what you're comfortable with using. If that DJ uses his phone to DJ with then what's the problem? As long as he gets the job done and nobody complains about the job he did.

I wouldn't use a phone to DJ with that's just me. Different strokes for different folks, whatever makes you happy. I understand you wouldn't use a phone to DJ with. That's fine. That doesn't mean another DJ can't use a phone to DJ with and be successful.

Think of it this way. When I first became a DJ we had to use records. That was in 81. That was then and this is now. When I first came back I was using CDs to DJ with. There was a time nobody was using CDs to DJ with. At that time who would ever guess that now a DJ would be using a computer to DJ with and use music files to play songs with. Also my music is stored on a 2 TB portable HD. I also have 2 more for backup. Modern technology is not a bad thing. It's all about how use it and are you good at what you're doing? If a DJ sucks no matter what they use they will still suck.

I won a job at a club playing on a Numark 25 dual CD player that sucked. I made it work because I knew what to do and how to get around that the CD player didn't scratch. Which meant that when setting up a song to be played all you heard was it stuttering until you played the song.

MIXMASTERMACHOM said:

Again it's all about what you're comfortable with using. If that DJ uses his phone to DJ with then what's the problem? As long as he gets the job done and nobody complains about the job he did.

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There are kids in my neighborhood who will use their dad's lawnmower and get paid to mow the neighbor's lawn. No one complains, the lawn looks ~OK and after 2 hours or so, the kid makes a few bucks.

Others hire professional landscapers who arrive using specialized equipment and both trained and learned experience. They finish the lawn in less than 30 minutes and take all the refuse with them. The level of detail in the edging and shrubbery are quite striking,

Now, this same illustration applies to DJs: Luke can show up using the same phone (streaming) device his customers carry around with them every day and their view of him is likley to be no different than that neighbor's kid mowing the lawn. It will appear that Luke either isn't that deep into it, or lacks the resources to really take the job seriously.

His "mix" won't be the thing that really stands out about him, and the visual is ambiguous - is it live or is it Memorex?

Proformance said:

There are kids in my neighborhood who will use their dad's lawnmower and get paid to mow the neighbor's lawn. No one complains, the lawn looks ~OK and after 2 hours or so, the kid makes a few bucks.

Others hire professional landscapers who arrive using specialized equipment and both trained and learned experience. They finish the lawn in less than 30 minutes and take all the refuse with them. The level of detail in the edging and shrubbery are quite striking,

Now, this same illustration applies to DJs: Luke can show up using the same phone (streaming) device his customers carry around with them every day and their view of him is likley to be no different than that neighbor's kid mowing the lawn. It will appear that Luke either isn't that deep into it, or lacks the resources to really take the job seriously.

His "mix" won't be the thing that really strands out about him, and the visual is ambiguous - is it live or is it Memorex?

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You keep repeating the same old thing. I have been to events where there was a DJ and the DJ had the right gear to use. Some of them just plain sucked! So it's not just about the gear you use but knowing what to do with it so you do a really good job. Don't also forget that part of the art to DJING is knowing how to read a crowd.

Proformance said:

His "mix" won't be the thing that really strands out about him, and the visual is ambiguous - is it live or is it Memorex?

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I was always concerned about the visual perspective I gave to my clients and guests. Every gig is a audition. Be kind and respectful to everyone you speak with at any gig for the same reason. Plus it's the right thing to do.

dunlopj said:

I was always concerned about the visual perspective I gave to my clients and guests. Every gig is a audition. Be kind and respectful to everyone you speak with at any gig for the same reason. Plus it's the right thing to do.

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Exactly. If you pull up with itty-bitty speakers and DJ off your phone, it's a bad visual and most any client is going to question "Why did I pay him so much?" Delivering a good party is just part of the equation. You gotta look like a "pro DJ" to make a good impression.

If this guy can D J using a phone , so could I? Nothing too it!

The whole "using a consumer device in a professional sound system" argument is a joke considering we all use consumer laptops in our professional DJ rigs. Macbooks, even the "Pro" version are consumer grade electronics available at Best Buy. My iPad has a more advanced processor than any of my laptops. My current iPhone isn't that far behind. Remember, the Technics 1200 was a consumer device until it took over professional DJ booths for decades.