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Somebody was asking about this. I'm pretty pleased with the results. Simply 2 projectors overlaying and the monogram seems to overpower the pattern just fine.
 
what are those things(looking like whips and bridle) hanging from the ceiling or wall?? were they part of the decor??
 
I kinda like it, it's a little different.
 
what are those things(looking like whips and bridle) hanging from the ceiling or wall?? were they part of the decor??

This is an old plantation. The receptions are held in the old stable area. Those are whips and harnesses and are part of the decor. They have a bunch of old buggies out in the back area.
 
Hey Rick, Just add an "S" to that "M" and with the whips and such this pic could have a whole new meaning.
 
Are you just "unimpressed" because you've seen it before or are you saying there is something aesthetically unpleasing about it?

My guess, he probably doesn't like the stock, single-letter gobo. My main point in posting was the question had been raised over whether you could mix projectors like that. I'd wondered myself whether the letter wouldn't have to be much stronger than the color but apparently not. This opens up a lot of new possibilities, IMHO.

By the way, thank you Ben (and co) for getting me that 2nd projector so quickly.
 
Anytime you use a gel or a breakup you are reducing the light transmission. You can also lamp the fixtures with different wattage, sometime to make up for really dark colors like violet, or to make the yop layer really pop.
 
cool Rick dont let industry leaders disuade as they are the only true innnovators but dont mind me. Thanks for listening tho. Good job.
 
My guess, he probably doesn't like the stock, single-letter gobo.

Well, then La-Di-Freakin' dah - let him sit around and wait for the deep pocket. If you can sell more projections by offering people a price point absent the custok artowrk how's that a negative?
 
This is an old plantation. The receptions are held in the old stable area. Those are whips and harnesses and are part of the decor. They have a bunch of old buggies out in the back area.
as a city person you don't see much of that here,thanks for the explanation.
 
That's not a very nice thing to say.

Are you just "unimpressed" because you've seen it before or are you saying there is something aesthetically unpleasing about it?

My guess, he probably doesn't like the stock, single-letter gobo. My main point in posting was the question had been raised over whether you could mix projectors like that. I'd wondered myself whether the letter wouldn't have to be much stronger than the color but apparently not. This opens up a lot of new possibilities, IMHO.

By the way, thank you Ben (and co) for getting me that 2nd projector so quickly.

Well, then La-Di-Freakin' dah - let him sit around and wait for the deep pocket. If you can sell more projections by offering people a price point absent the custok artowrk how's that a negative?

I was only stating my opinion on the look, so not sure how you get I was NOT being nice. I'm sure if he thought I was being mean, he would have told me....Rick's not one to hold his tongue. ;)

Rick is also correct in that I'm not a big fan of the single STOCK letter image, when creating a custom monogram can be achieved with very little effort. I do think it would have looked nice if the background image would have been larger and would fade out, instead of looking like a large round ball on the dance floor. It may have worked to push that light away a bit and have it coming from an angle from the side maybe. ???

Pro...I live in Cornville, IN...the only deep pockets here are the ones sewn into the Amish pants. ;)
 
I was only stating my opinion on the look, so not sure how you get I was NOT being nice. I'm sure if he thought I was being mean, he would have told me....Rick's not one to hold his tongue. ;)

Rick is also correct in that I'm not a big fan of the single STOCK letter image, when creating a custom monogram can be achieved with very little effort. I do think it would have looked nice if the background image would have been larger and would fade out, instead of looking like a large round ball on the dance floor. It may have worked to push that light away a bit and have it coming from an angle from the side maybe. ???

Pro...I live in Cornville, IN...the only deep pockets here are the ones sewn into the Amish pants. ;)

Randy, I think you're spot-on. I'd just gotten in that 2nd projector (thanks again, Ben) and just HAD to try it out. Unfortunately, I was already backed against a wall so hanging it on my t-bar, right above the monogram projector was the easy choice. Going forward though, I guess I'm gonna have to play with it and see if I can come up with something workable. My current stand goes to 10ft so I guess it'd require a lift that would go higher and be placed further back. Either that, or I could setup a 2nd t-bar, maybe the other side of the dance floor.
 
Can't that look not be done by using a single Custom Gobo on one projector/device? Seems like a very expensive option and time consuming work just to end up with ONE image on the floor/wall/ceiling?
 
Can't that look not be done by using a single Custom Gobo on one projector/device? Seems like a very expensive option and time consuming work just to end up with ONE image on the floor/wall/ceiling?

I believe you'd have to do a custom glass gobo to get multiple colors off a single projector. That would be cost-prohibitive, IMHO.
 
A steel gobo is about $125 max after delivery, while a glass gobo could be up to 3 times more. It makes no sense to do a glass gobo unless the patterns are complex (corporate logos etc.)

Whether the background is a wider wash and feathered out is a matter of purpose. Keeping it small and sharp may be the whole point if you are tryingto create a graphic icon.

You can also use rippled glass with a twin-spin and breakup to make the backgorund move and resemble water or fire.
 
A steel gobo is about $125 max after delivery, while a glass gobo could be up to 3 times more. It makes no sense to do a glass gobo unless the patterns are complex (corporate logos etc.)

Whether the background is a wider wash and feathered out is a matter of purpose. Keeping it small and sharp may be the whole point if you are tryingto create a graphic icon.

You can also use rippled glass with a twin-spin and breakup to make the backgorund move and resemble water or fire.

Oooh, cool idea on the rippled glass with a spinner (the spinner costs about $300 for that fixture). I believe that would still require 2 fixtures, assuming a steel gobo for the monogram and glass for the ripple effect? You're giving me more ideas..........

BTW, I think I'm going to add yet another add-on to my price list. I'm thinking to let the standard package still include the stock gobo (Ben sold me a full alphabet for the SF fixtures) but also do an up-charge for more elaborate gobos (first names, multiple letter, graphics, etc.). If they're willing to pay, I'm all for the (much) nicer look but at my current pricing, I'm not willing to eat the burn charge on the plate.