Mixxy, you know more about bars than most bar owners. LOL
No. I know what I've seen in the past and how some owners make classic mistakes. For example the bar where I first met my partner was a big mess. It was on Sherman Ave in Newark, NJ. That whole strip was where cheap drug addict prostitutes walked the strip.
The bar didn't have a sign with its name on it. It was called C & B. The owner didn't care about that bar because he had another bar on Broad Street that he cared about.
The bar that my partner was playing in they had no security and when he played there the owner didn't care who came in the bar. So there were plenty of under age people who came in there and was drinking alcohol. There were so many that the people behind the bar weren't checking IDs. If they had the money for the drink they got it.
We tried to talk to the owner about getting security when the DJ played there. He didn't want to do that being cheap.
I was at my jobs union Christmas party and when it was over I went to check on my partner to see what's going on. When I got there the police were inside. They let me in because I'm his partner.
My partner told me what happened after the manager lied and said it was the DJs fault. The police knew what the problem was.
My partner told me that there was a patron in the bar that had been drinking and they were using one of the young girls to get him to come outside so they could rob him. So a bunch of patrons on the bar went outside to stop them and they came back in the bar and started fighting. He said he was hiding out where he stored his gear. He said one person got thrown on the other side of the bar and the bartender got his nose broken with a chair. That was his last time he played there. That's just one example.
Trust me I have more examples. What I say is first I understand that in order to keep a bar open the bar must make a certain amount of money. The thing I say and will never change my mind. It's about a bar owner going after smart money and not just any money. Let those who create a big problem in a bar go some else and cause problems in that place.
I've known places that got shut down because the police get tired of having to keep coming to a bar that keeps having trouble. So what happens is eventually they will hit the owner with a big fine that they know the owner can't afford and thus the place is closed in most cases for good.