Nope, the only preferencial treatment is when a new singer enters the rotation after the first. But, that is only on their first go round... after that they fall into place where they would have if running a straight fist come first serve... of course if someones got money to aaaaaa Tip me right then I'll bump singers. (puts on flame retarted suit) Thing is once a singer puts in a request prior to announceing that we are sold out they will sing no matter what it's all a matter of when. As long as folks understand that er-uhm tipping gets you moved up in rotation, then it's all good.
Ditto, only money gets my customers prefferential treatment. Not boobs, not flirting, not empty promises... Wait, i'm not going to say singing.
Vic singing suavemente can get the crowd really rocking and off their feet. Sometimes I just watch out for him (lock item in rotation)
Vic singing suavemente can get the crowd really rocking and off their feet. Sometimes I just watch out for him (lock item in rotation)
Yah there's just somethin about a 6' japaneese man singing spanish love songs that gets them goin... it's true just visit the boo's live show you'll see.
Absolutely not. Rotation positions at my show are 100% based on when you enter the rotation. The only favoritism played to regulars are if my A-listers appear, they get put into the rotation as soon as they arrive, as opposed to having to find a seat order a drink and fill out a slip first.
Talent has no bearing on my rotation policy at all. The hardest part of performing karaoke is waiting your turn, what you do on your turn or how well you do it is not up to me...what is up to me is keeping the wait time fair for all attendees.
Never, nor do the boss's friends, mine, relatives, etc.. My patrons know it, and are constantly appreciative.
Nope. If you can sing that's great. If you can't, then give it your best shot. The rotation is the rotation. However, unlike some earilier posters, boobs will do it. That's my currency. Most guys will give up their turn to see boobs. Getting the ladies to flash is my gimmic. But anything can wear thin, so if we're seeing the same old sets week after week the thrill is gone and you're back sitting in rotation topless or not.
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Nothing like getting the decent women to leave as quickly as possible. One of my first bar gigs the owner would encourage the women to flash, eventually it was a bar full of men. I had a party the day I landed a new bar gig and quit that dump. Absolutely disgusting.
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Many of our singers have up to 3 index cards, they love it when we pick their songs from the cards, many of them allow us to pick new songs for them as well.
It is great when there are many melancholy songs in a row, with a singers list of songs many times we change the mood with an upbeat song usually starts the other singers singing more upbeat songs also.
It is great when there are many melancholy songs in a row, with a singers list of songs many times we change the mood with an upbeat song usually starts the other singers singing more upbeat songs also.
I've come to the conclusion that there will never be a fair solution when you suddenly get 20-30 new singers dumped into rotation.
20 x 3 minutes a song = 1 hour
So if you follow standard rotation algo's (drop noobs at the end of the current round) that means folks in the current round not only have to wait for every non noob to get up before them, but 20 noobs as well.
Rotation is a female dog. Even automated like mines and JW's, there will never be a good solution to the 20 new singer problem.
Toqer and I handle it differently yet pretty much the same...
I have it so that outside of round 1 when a noob comes in they get placed 3rd behind the current onstage singer, but if they are my 20th singer of the night the following rotation puts them in the 20th position assumeing the other 19 are going to sing in the next round too.
Toqer deviates from this where he sets a max wait time... meaning anyone in the current rotation or playlist who has been waiting X minutes since his last time at bat gets bumped up in rotation... it works for him. For me it's too confusing to run it that way.
The max wait time is handy on the real busy nights like what toqer gets... so if in his scenerio 20 noobs drop on him he needs that wait time... because his regulars will go balistic if they had to wait for 20 noobs before they got to sing again.
Now back to topic....
I use the singer history thus.... if one of my regulars walks in, lets call him Bob. I'll go out to Bob and ask if he's gonna sing... if so does he want me to pick somethin from his history while he looks at the book. This gets him in the rotation following the Noob rules but places him in the following rotation where ever he would have been in a first come first serve type rotation.
So bottom line is with what we are using regulars don't get any more preferencial treatment than any other noob comming off the street we just know what they want to sing sooner.
I see it this way if you've already sung give the new guys a turn first... keeps the new guys longer than if you told them, hey man all these people who have sung already are ahead of you, so wait your turn... they'll probably just leave, I would.
Weed It seems you work with a classy venue using such highly regarded practices when making that professional decision. Seems I been to the Gutter Bar and Grill before.
ABSOLUTELY! The crowd is loud and they're drunk and they're fun and not an over inflated ego in the bunch. What harm is there in the exhibition of the odd mammary gland during karaoke? Half of the population has 'em and the other half like 'em.
Without getting into the rotation war of styles, what it comes down to is that, unfortunately (or fortunately-depending how you look at it) the rotation problem is self-correcting.
1) your regs stick around because they like you and the venue
2) others may wait it out and go elsewhere next time in hopes of a smaller rotation.
3) The divas will get impatient and leave.
We do our best to keep all happy, which builds a big attendance, which eventually limits each singer's stage time, which will thin the crowd, which will give the singers more air time, which will make attendance grow again......round and round
1) your regs stick around because they like you and the venue
2) others may wait it out and go elsewhere next time in hopes of a smaller rotation.
3) The divas will get impatient and leave.
We do our best to keep all happy, which builds a big attendance, which eventually limits each singer's stage time, which will thin the crowd, which will give the singers more air time, which will make attendance grow again......round and round
Is running a karaoke show stressful?
sorry to hijack the thread, but I wonder how may....um...put downs you guys hear from the drunks? especially drunk noobs....
sorry to hijack the thread, but I wonder how may....um...put downs you guys hear from the drunks? especially drunk noobs....
For me it's mostly fun... you get the occational drunk ******* but then you could get that guy at any event.
Heh last week I had a n00b drunk chick. Conversation went like this...
"I've been coming here 17 years and karaoke was never done like this before"
She only looked twenty something, anyways 17 years ago we didn't even own english karaoke.
"This is called rotation"
"Well i've been waiting over 3 hours!"
It was only 11pm. I wasn't even at work 3 hours ago.
Tap tap tap, brought up my logs.
Index of C:\nsv\7 Bamboo Live Karaoke
reallydrunkchick.nsv 10:18pm
reallydrunkchicksfriend.nsv 10:23pm
"Gee, looks like you sang just a 1/2 hour ago"
Really drunk girl gets a defeated befuddled look on her face and sits back down.
"I've been coming here 17 years and karaoke was never done like this before"
She only looked twenty something, anyways 17 years ago we didn't even own english karaoke.
"This is called rotation"
"Well i've been waiting over 3 hours!"
It was only 11pm. I wasn't even at work 3 hours ago.
Tap tap tap, brought up my logs.
Index of C:\nsv\7 Bamboo Live Karaoke
reallydrunkchick.nsv 10:18pm
reallydrunkchicksfriend.nsv 10:23pm
"Gee, looks like you sang just a 1/2 hour ago"
Really drunk girl gets a defeated befuddled look on her face and sits back down.
Low tech me just lists the names on a pad by position, and put tally marks after each name as they sing. A look at the pad tells me who sang last and how many times each person's been up. For me, time between is not the issue, it's how many times up.
At the end of a round a line is drawn beneath the last singer. Anyone coming in after the first round will, of course, have one less time up than the first rounders, and so on. This helps bring in singers ( and thus paying customers) earlier. Everyone knows who precedes them and are ready when it's their turn. Only the anchor singer gets newbies added before him/her. I never cut a round short at the end of the night. I just watch the time. If you are in the rotation, you WILL sing in the last round.
At the end of a round a line is drawn beneath the last singer. Anyone coming in after the first round will, of course, have one less time up than the first rounders, and so on. This helps bring in singers ( and thus paying customers) earlier. Everyone knows who precedes them and are ready when it's their turn. Only the anchor singer gets newbies added before him/her. I never cut a round short at the end of the night. I just watch the time. If you are in the rotation, you WILL sing in the last round.
What you are doing on paper we are doing on the PC... except with less work. AutOK can be set with a closing time... and also set to not allow new or old singers from posting new songs if time wont permit them to sing them. As long as those that have been there all night continue to request songs to sing up to the sold out time they will sing them.... no matter how many new singers come in....
Regulars will quickly learn the earlier they get there the more they get to sing... they'll also soon learn that as long as my song is in the queue I will get to sing, period.