Reworking My Large System

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SOoooo... Gotta do something today. I might be able to work outside later. It's supposed to get warmer, and the wind is supposed to calm down this afternoon. But if I can't work, I'll SHOP![emoji1] I need to go pick up some stuff for the facade. Building a facade is a scope change[emoji1], but I've been wanting to see if I can build one better than ones you can buy. Guess we're gonna find out. If it comes out as good as my design, ya'll are gonna be amazed.[emoji1]
 
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My new SKB rack has her high heels on, and she's lookin' GOOD.[emoji1] The height (with the slant-top rack sitting atop the elevated base) is now 38 inches in the front, and 41 inches in the back... the PERFECT height. That's the good part. Now for the bad...[emoji1]

With the top on the slant-top rack, the height is a whopping 44 inches. The rear door opening in my minivan is only 41 inches, and with the ramp attached, probably only 39 inches.[emoji37]

So... the obvious solution... BUY A NEW VAN![emoji1]... Just kidding.[emoji1]... That would be the Mix solution. The side door openings are about the same, so the only option is to separate the top and bottom when transporting them, and set them side-by-side (or one behind the other) in the rear... then reunite them when unloading them at the venue.

My lift is coming along pretty good, but I'm not going to post any progress pics until after it's done, 'cause I don't wanna spoil the surprise. I'll work on it more today, so stay tuned.[emoji4]
 
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It's remarkable how many little details there are, which must be addressed when building a rack system. Most of the members know this better than I, so this is more for the noobs who may be reading this thread. Today I reworked my patch panel. I used the same patch panel I removed from my old Large System rack, and I'm reusing it, but many things have changed, so it could not just be thrown into the new rack unchanged.

I like a patch panel on the back of my rack. I don't like the cables coming down in the front around my feet... where they might interfere with my dancing.[emoji1] Though I prefer to have most of the cabling hidden inside the rack, there are several external connections that work best if they are on a patch panel. And though my computers are mounted inside my rack, I like having access to their USB ports through connections on the patch panel. I also have an Ethernet switch inside the rack, and at least a couple of those ports need to be connected to the patch panel.

The rear patch panel on the back of the SKB slant-top rack is going to be inset further into the rear opening than normal, since I couldn't install rails on the back of the rack without jeopardizing the use of the rack cover. So I'll mount a make-shift rack an inch or two further into the rear opening. It should have very little impact on the use of the connections installed back there. I am eliminating a couple of the connectors, but there are a couple of new ones, so it's pretty much a wash. I've also removed the 4 Wireless microphone antennas off the patch panel, as they would be too far inside the rack to be properly extended if they were attached to the patch panel. I have a plan for moving them to a better location. Like I said, lots of little details. I also need to be cognizant of the possibility that I might have to use my Laptop computer in a situation where neither of the Nano Computers are working. It's a pretty remote possibility, but I need to have access to all the necessary connections so the laptop can be hooked up to the PA system if necessary. Since the controller is mounted inside the rack, instead of being in an external case (like my old VMS 4.1), I need to have its connections available on the patch panel as well. Finally, the rack is split, so there needs to be some connection between the two rack sections, but nothing that can't be easily disconnected for transporting.

Compared to the internal wiring, my patch panel is pretty simple, but it still requires some thought and planning.[emoji4]


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Nice day today, so I'll probably work on my rack mods today. However, the wife is home doing taxes, so it may not be cool to leave her alone while she's doing stuff that's NO FUN, while I go out and play with power tools.[emoji1]

This weekend, I checked off one more task related to the part of this project that had to do with moving my servers to the old Gator Cases DJ rack. Even though I ended up moving the servers (a second time) from the old DJ rack to the converted stereo cabinet, I still have three computers mounted in the old DJ rack; one Windows 7, one Windows 10, and one for a Linux distro.

When I retired my SuSe media server, that was my last machine with a Linux OS. All my servers are now running NAS4Free. NAS4Free is a great file server, but it's of no use if you want to run other Linux apps. I have Ubuntu and Mint virtual machines, but no actual physical Linux PC. So I looked at Ubuntu, Kbuntu, SuSe, and others to see which one I would prefer to use, and ended up with Zorin. Zorin seems to be the most intuitive to me. None of them recognized my monitor, though, so the best resolution I could set was 1024x768 or some such nonsense. I finally had to create a custom resolution through Xander, which is a PITA.[emoji4] I'm not a command line guy anymore... haven't been for years, and don't really want to be a command line guy.[emoji1] So now I have a working Linux computer... but I need to load some software and get it setup to access all the servers and other computers on the LAN. Fun times![emoji1]
 
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Having all of computers in ones home confuses me, I have a a home use laptop as do the kids and the wife but I can see no need for multiple racks of different computers, I’ve probably used my home laptop twice this year
 
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If you have more than 1 dog, it's similar for us computer types.
 
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Having all of computers in ones home confuses me, I have a a home use laptop as do the kids and the wife but I can see no need for multiple racks of different computers, I’ve probably used my home laptop twice this year

[emoji1]... It's not for everyone.[emoji1] Nobody ever said it was the most PRACTICAL thing. I could easily do with less if I wanted to, and probably will at some point soon... I just like computers, and all of them are used in some way from time-to-time. They keep my mind active... but sometimes they make my head hurt too.[emoji1]


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Having all of computers in ones home confuses me, I have a a home use laptop as do the kids and the wife but I can see no need for multiple racks of different computers, I’ve probably used my home laptop twice this year
I'll also bet you have many more as well .. just not called "computer" anymore, but similar guts .. PlayStations, Xboxes, Wiis, Rokus, Chromecasts, etc. Older computers can do similar things.
 
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Worked on the high heels (rack height extension) yesterday, and it's looking pretty good. However, it hasn't been simple. The more I work with these racks, I've realized NOTHING about them is square. Measurements from one side to the other are different. Bolt holes for the casters are just a little different in each of the four corners, so everything I make is unique and custom. Takes more time than being able set up a template and cloning multiple like pieces. I'm trying to use what's there and add on without having to alter the base rack and (so far) I have been able to do that with the bottom rack (SKB R1906). Couldn't do that with the slant-top rack (SKB R104). However, it would have been much quicker and easier had I made the extension as a separate unit and just attached it when it was done. If I find I'm not satisfied with the way this version of the high heels turns out, I may just rebuild it that way. Since none of this is permanent and the rack is unaltered, replacing the high heels with another version would be no problem.

My choice of materials to build the high heels was maybe not the best. I'm using black vinyl clad wood. I've never used this stuff before, and probably never will again. It looks good on the outside, but as it's cut into smaller pieces, you find that the wood they used is really CR@P stuff... lots of knots and splits. The vinyl is not really glued well either, so I've had to glue it to the wood in several places too. A PITA. I was trying to avoid having to paint it... Oh well, now I know.[emoji1] If this first version comes out OK, I'll just go with it for now... Like I said... It looks pretty good.

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... Oh... did I mention that it's HEAVY? I didn't expect it to be so heavy. Not so much that I can't lift it, but noticeably heavier. One of my goals for this project was to decrease the weight. Adding this extension (at its current weight) certainly won't help me achieve that goal.
 
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Hmmm...too heavy? Time to head back to the drawing board for re-design...:laugh:

LOL... Maybe not. It IS heavy, but I haven't decided if it's TOO heavy yet. There's not much else in the bottom rack, so it was not that heavy before adding the high heels, so I might just live with it (for now). Rebuilding it would mean another missed deadline.[emoji1]

It looks pretty good though; don't ya think?[emoji4]
 
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@Bobcat: I'm thinking seriously of making or purchase a side-by-side unit; separating certain pieces from the heavy road case (98 lbs.). I've seen a couple of Odyssey Flight Cases (3/8" ply construction) that might do the job; unloaded they 31 lbs. and 37 lbs. Both are 10 space top w/ bottom vertical 2 space of which one is top slanted rack (for laptop). Unfortunately, both are 24" front to back. Current road case is 22" front to back.
Cases I am considering: Odyssey 802blklabel-10u-2u-dj combo case, Pro Combo Rack Case 10 U Top Rack & 2U Bottom Rack.

Components to go inside of cases: DR PA, ETA power unit with 8-plug, Dennon 4500 CD top and bottom sections, Pioneer 5000 mixer. Not sure how I will split the equipment. The issue is not to have any line-in or out having to go from one case to the other. Might be a problem.

My thinking would be to have Dennon CD/Media deck and wireless microphone unit in the non-slanted rack case. Could also use side panel cutout hole in each road case to bring line IN-OUT or wireless cords to mixer and power to CD/Media case. Another idea would be to create a solid board to fit across the open space at the back of the Dennon road case. The platform/board could be used for wireless mouse pad and keyboard.

Need more info and hands-on of the Odyssey cases before making decision. Need to find a Guitar Center or Sam Ash somewhere nearby...or order from Odyssey and then return if not what I want...return shipping $$ cost?

Thoughts?
 
@Bobcat: I'm thinking seriously of making or purchase a side-by-side unit; separating certain pieces from the heavy road case (98 lbs.). I've seen a couple of Odyssey Flight Cases (3/8" ply construction) that might do the job; unloaded they 31 lbs. and 37 lbs. Both are 10 space top w/ bottom vertical 2 space of which one is top slanted rack (for laptop). Unfortunately, both are 24" front to back. Current road case is 22" front to back.
Cases I am considering: Odyssey 802blklabel-10u-2u-dj combo case, Pro Combo Rack Case 10 U Top Rack & 2U Bottom Rack.

Components to go inside of cases: DR PA, ETA power unit with 8-plug, Dennon 4500 CD top and bottom sections, Pioneer 5000 mixer. Not sure how I will split the equipment. The issue is not to have any line-in or out having to go from one case to the other. Might be a problem.

My thinking would be to have Dennon CD/Media deck and wireless microphone unit in the non-slanted rack case. Could also use side panel cutout hole in each road case to bring line IN-OUT or wireless cords to mixer and power to CD/Media case. Another idea would be to create a solid board to fit across the open space at the back of the Dennon road case. The platform/board could be used for wireless mouse pad and keyboard.

Need more info and hands-on of the Odyssey cases before making decision. Need to find a Guitar Center or Sam Ash somewhere nearby...or order from Odyssey and then return if not what I want...return shipping $$ cost?

Thoughts?

Sounds interesting... I like those Odyssey cases. Plywood is sturdy (and square).[emoji1]... Molded plastic is lighter, but these SKB cases have SO many curves and inconsistent thicknesses (of the plastic), they make mods extremely difficult.

Not sure which exact pieces you're looking at. Maybe you could post a link? One thing about the slant-tops with just 2U bottoms, if what you mount in the top is very deep, you can't put anything in the bottom, and 2U is not much even when you CAN use all of it.

I'll be interested to see what you end up doing.[emoji4]
 
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Sounds interesting... I like those Odyssey cases. Plywood is sturdy (and square).[emoji1]... Molded plastic is lighter, but these SKB cases have SO many curves and inconsistent thicknesses (of the plastic), they make mods extremely difficult.

Not sure which exact pieces you're looking at. Maybe you could post a link? One thing about the slant-tops with just 2U bottoms, if what you mount in the top is very deep, you can't put anything in the bottom, and 2U is not much even when you CAN use all of it.

I'll be interested to see what you end up doing.[emoji4]
The two ups are actually 3 up once you take the rack panel it comes with off I have everything I need for 99% of my gigs in one of these cases
 
The two ups are actually 3 up once you take the rack panel it comes with off I have everything I need for 99% of my gigs in one of these cases
Not with a Denon MC6000 on top .. needs that space for the controls in front (Bobcat and I have the same controller).