Trying out a new DJ tomorrow night

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I'm trying out a new guy tomorrow night. Pulled a 50th wedding anniversary, which also booked photography. Just got the timeline from them and they asked for "The Anniversary Game", which looks like it's a modified version of "The Shoe Game". The guy I've booked is also a wedding photographer who also DJs. Seems solid, 40-ish years old, and I did a phone interview with him. The party is from 4p-8p and my wife will be in attendance to take pictures, so I get to just float and get an idea on his abilities. Any comments/suggestions welcome in regards.
 
Let us know how it goes.

Did you see this DJ before somewhere? If not, how did you find him? Did you research him first (Check out any online reviews? Look at any videos he might have?)
 
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Let us know how it goes.

Did you see this DJ before somewhere? If not, how did you find him? Did you research him first (Check out any online reviews? Look at any videos he might have?)

He responded to a CL ad that I put out. He's been doing photography for about 10 years. I've never seen him in action but felt comfortable after a phone consult. In fact, as I was typing this he called to chat about the anniversary game. We had another nice chat and looks like everything is covered.
 
He responded to a CL ad that I put out. He's been doing photography for about 10 years. I've never seen him in action but felt comfortable after a phone consult. In fact, as I was typing this he called to chat about the anniversary game. We had another nice chat and looks like everything is covered.


That's good. Phone chats are a good way to feel them out. Which is why I suspect most wedding clients want to chat over the phone or meet, or SKYPE with their DJ before booking them.

I would still like to see some online reviews though. I also ask what equipment they use in their set up.


I just had a DJ email me saying he wants to work with us. He said he has been in radio for 20 years, and has done 20 weddings over the last 4 years. I sent him an email back saying "Thank you for your interest" then gave him a list of questions to answer for me.

It's been almost 24 hours since his email, and no response yet. ...If he doesn't respond by tomorrow afternoon, I won't consider him...Not responding to an email in 48 hours is a red flag to me.

I am looking to add 1 DJ for 2017 as one of my DJs doesn't really DJ any more...he is focused on his job and pod casting (which I do a pod cast with him). I just booked him on his first booking this year from me...it will probably be the only gig I book him on this year. my Sister is also booking herself more, and whenever I ask her if she is open these days she is already booked. So I have been booking other DJs less than in the past.
 
I sent him an email back saying "Thank you for your interest" then gave him a list of questions to answer for me.

It's been almost 24 hours since his email, and no response yet. ...If he doesn't respond by tomorrow afternoon, I won't consider him...Not responding to an email in 48 hours is a red flag to me.

FYI: I suspect you've heard the last from him. If you sent me a list of questions to answer I'd move on to another employer. If you want to ask me questions then call or schedule an interview. There's is nothing about a patent lack of interpersonal professionalism that would inspire anyone to work for you.

Finding good help requires an effort on your part. There is no line at your door, the job is not widely sought.

Can you see the obvious folly in demanding a response in 48 hours from people you don't value enough to speak with in person?
 
FYI: I suspect you've heard the last from him. If you sent me a list of questions to answer I'd move on to another employer. If you want to ask me questions then call or schedule an interview. There's is nothing about a patent lack of interpersonal professionalism that would inspire anyone to work for you.

Finding good help requires an effort on your part. There is no line at your door, the job is not widely sought.

Can you see the obvious folly in demanding a response in 48 hours from people you don't value enough to speak with in person?
I agree I would never answer a list of e-mail questions, if you said I have a few questions can we set up a time for an interview, you would have better results
 
FYI: I suspect you've heard the last from him. If you sent me a list of questions to answer I'd move on to another employer. If you want to ask me questions then call or schedule an interview. There's is nothing about a patent lack of interpersonal professionalism that would inspire anyone to work for you.

Finding good help requires an effort on your part. There is no line at your door, the job is not widely sought.

Can you see the obvious folly in demanding a response in 48 hours from people you don't value enough to speak with in person?


I disagree.

Do employees call potential employers these days and have a phone conversation with them as their application?

The Answer is NO. EVERYBODY has to fill out an application even to be considered for the job at hand before anybody talks with you. That is how things are done these days.

If he can't take 5 minutes to answer a list of NEED TO KNOW QUESTIONS, then why should I trust this guy handling email correspondence with my the clients I sub contract to him? Timliness of correspondence is important to me if I am going to have this guy represent us in any fashion. At this point I know nothing about him.

He has also seen my phone info, and he easily can give me a phone call as well to discuss if he prefers to do that at this point. He is also the one that emailed me. If somebody emails me first...I consider that their preferred method of communication unless they specifically ask for a phone call.
 
I completely disagree Ricky. In the past 25+ years, I have only answered potential employer questions on the phone or face-to-face. He responded to YOUR inquiry, it would typically be up to YOU to set up a call.
 
I completely disagree Ricky. In the past 25+ years, I have only answered potential employer questions on the phone or face-to-face. He responded to YOUR inquiry, it would typically be up to YOU to set up a call.

I will DISAGREE with your Disagreement. I never posted an advertisement looking for a DJ.

He came across my website and sent me an email looking for work, and said he would like to work with us.

I also have to disagree with your jobs experience...that is not the norm. Most employers require an application to be filled out, and often an applicant must take a "personality test" answering multiple questions online to figure out what type of person they are. Often that test is anywhere from 40 - 1 hour and 15 minutes long.

I have been required to take that online test as a part of applying to many jobs in the past. ....Most companies have these procedures set in stone these days as part of their hiring process.

You have been fortunate enough to avoid the new age process in hiring it seems.
 
I will DISAGREE with your Disagreement. I never posted an advertisement looking for a DJ.

He came across my website and sent me an email looking for work, and said he would like to work with us.

I also have to disagree with your jobs experience...that is not the norm. Most employers require an application to be filled out, and often an applicant must take a "personality test" answering multiple questions online to figure out what type of person they are. Often that test is anywhere from 40 - 1 hour and 15 minutes long.

I have been required to take that online test as a part of applying to many jobs in the past. ....Most companies have these procedures set in stone these days as part of their hiring process.

You have been fortunate enough to avoid the new age process in hiring it seems.
OK . I missed that ..

Job applications and "personality tests" are for mass applied-to jobs (Walmart, restaurants, etc.). Most service jobs that have a small pool of candidates DO NOT hire that way typically. Not saying that once you've gone through the initial processes that there isn't some HR vetting, but it typically isn't up front.

Either way, if you have any interest in this candidate, making them fill out a questionnaire would certainly drive most away.
 
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I have filled out exactly 3 application in my entire life, and two of those were filled out after I was hired simply because they had to have it on file, Steve is correct service sector jobs generally don't questionnaires or tests, Ricky you view is somewhat distorted because of the types of jobs you have held, waiters and hotel clerks are mass population jobs that nearly anyone can do,
 
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It is 7 basic questions. If someone who wants to work with me can't answer 7 questions for me, then why do I want to bother with them?

They are welcome to give me a phone call if they want to pursue working with me, and don't want to take the time to type up an email, but seriously...they are basic questions that I could answer in 5 minutes.

i.e. - Where do you live? How far are you willing to travel? What equipment do you have, and typically use? How much are you looking to make on a 4 hour wedding? Do you have a website I can look at?

Most of the work I have available would be on Saturdays...Are you okay with Saturday work?

Really, not difficult questions to answer, and consumes very little of his time.
 
I will DISAGREE with your Disagreement. I never posted an advertisement looking for a DJ.

He came across my website and sent me an email looking for work, and said he would like to work with us.

I also have to disagree with your jobs experience...that is not the norm. Most employers require an application to be filled out, and often an applicant must take a "personality test" answering multiple questions online to figure out what type of person they are. Often that test is anywhere from 40 - 1 hour and 15 minutes long.

I have been required to take that online test as a part of applying to many jobs in the past. ....Most companies have these procedures set in stone these days as part of their hiring process.

You have been fortunate enough to avoid the new age process in hiring it seems.

Please don't take this wrong, but it's been my impression that perhaps the jobs you've gone after in the past were what I'd call low-end, low-skill positions (server at a restaurant for example). Those types of positions most certainly require applications to be filled out. It's my impression that Steve operates on a higher end type structure, and those do not ask for applications. For example, in the position I just started a couple of weeks ago, I emailed a resume to the IT Director's secretary. A few weeks later, she called to ask if I could interview the next day. I came in and met with a team of people who fired questions at me for an hour, we shook hands, and I left. The next day the director called me and made an offer. I now manage a team of 5 IT folks and never filled out a single application or questionnaire.

Concerning your handling of this fellow, it's your call on what you feel is best. I can see one perspective where a list of questions would weed out whether someone was seriously wanting to work for you. I can also see another perspective where I contacted someone to work for them, they sent me a list of stupid questions, so they're likely to be a PITA with paperwork for a DJ gig. In a way, I think you both are missing an opportunity. The guy should have just picked up the phone and called to ask for a meeting. You probably should have done the same thing, as it's a fair shot you may be missing out on a quality entertainer to add to your stable.

Either way, it's your business and your call to make. Just offering some different perspective in effort to keep the discussion going.
 
I have filled out exactly 3 application in my entire life, and two of those were filled out after I was hired simply because they had to have it on file, Steve is correct service sector jobs generally don't questionnaires or tests, Ricky you view is somewhat distorted because of the types of jobs you have held, waiters and hotel clerks are mass population jobs that nearly anyone can do,

Same applications for call centers, and many office jobs as well.

Although it takes a certain type of individual to be a DJ, "nearly anyone can do it" ...So what is your point? ...That because you haven't had to answer questions to get hired somewhere that I shouldn't ask anybody questions to consider them?

Everybody wants to know enough about the person they are bringing aboard whether it is a $10 an hour job, sub contracting them as a DJ, or hiring a Manager to handle a team of 50 that get's paid $160,000 a year.

You were a Car Sales Man in the past. CarMax requires a personality test be filled out for that position these days. Most private dealers hire people their employees or themselves already know, and they talk with the person first.

Nearly anybody can sell cars too. Most don't want to do it because it is a time consuming job that requires weekends (or at least Saturdays)
 
Please don't take this wrong, but it's been my impression that perhaps the jobs you've gone after in the past were what I'd call low-end, low-skill positions (server at a restaurant for example). Those types of positions most certainly require applications to be filled out. It's my impression that Steve operates on a higher end type structure, and those do not ask for applications. For example, in the position I just started a couple of weeks ago, I emailed a resume to the IT Director's secretary. A few weeks later, she called to ask if I could interview the next day. I came in and met with a team of people who fired questions at me for an hour, we shook hands, and I left. The next day the director called me and made an offer. I now manage a team of 5 IT folks and never filled out a single application or questionnaire.

Concerning your handling of this fellow, it's your call on what you feel is best. I can see one perspective where a list of questions would weed out whether someone was seriously wanting to work for you. I can also see another perspective where I contacted someone to work for them, they sent me a list of stupid questions, so they're likely to be a PITA with paperwork for a DJ gig. In a way, I think you both are missing an opportunity. The guy should have just picked up the phone and called to ask for a meeting. You probably should have done the same thing, as it's a fair shot you may be missing out on a quality entertainer to add to your stable.

Either way, it's your business and your call to make. Just offering some different perspective in effort to keep the discussion going.


I'm not taking things the wrong way. I just operate as I see fit.

85% of my communication with my clients ARE THROUGH EMAIL. Most clients these days email me, and there are many emails before a phone call occurs. Timeliness of correspondence in this manner is important. I expect the DJs I sub contract to also be diligent in emailing back and fourth with clients when they need to.

A big pet peeve of mine is:

We have emailed DJ so and so a couple of times, and it's been weeks and there has been no response. That is totally unacceptable to me, and won't work with DJs who operate in that manner.

If someone wants to work with us...Great. My first impression will be how diligent they are in communicating via email. I responded to his email, and am awaiting that response. My phone number is in the signature. If he prefers to call, I suspect he would dial my number. If not, I'm expecting an email response within 48 hours.
 
Most of my employment changes went something like this, I get a call form a manger or owner, hey so and so says you's be a good fit here are you interested in working for us, maybe when can we talk, we have a brief conversation about wages and benefits, and I either choose to work for them or don't, based on what they can do for me
 
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I'm not taking things the wrong way. I just operate as I see fit.

85% of my communication with my clients ARE THROUGH EMAIL. Most clients these days email me, and there are many emails before a phone call occurs. Timeliness of correspondence in this manner is important. I expect the DJs I sub contract to also be diligent in emailing back and fourth with clients when they need to.

A big pet peeve of mine is:

We have emailed DJ so and so a couple of times, and it's been weeks and there has been no response. That is totally unacceptable to me, and won't work with DJs who operate in that manner.

If someone wants to work with us...Great. My first impression will be how diligent they are in communicating via email. I responded to his email, and am awaiting that response. My phone number is in the signature. If he prefers to call, I suspect he would dial my number. If not, I'm expecting an email response within 48 hours.

You're dead-on in your assessment. I think my numbers, on brides booking thru email, are spot-on with yours. Clients will NOT wait around for you to get back with them and I expect the same level of response out of my guys, as you do with yours.
 
I will add that generally speaking, from what I have seen other DJ companies do in terms of looking for new employees is ASK FOR AN APPLICATION TO BE FILLED OUT in order to be considered.

Here is one such company in Pennsylvania

Part-time Disc Jockey/ MC

Here is another one looking for a Trivia host...They ask candidates to fill out a survey.
MC, Host for weekly game nights, no experience needed...

I have seen some companies ask applicants write them a full paragraph explaining why they would be a good candidate for being a DJ with their company.
 
How hard is it to email someone and say .. "Give me a call at xxx-xxx-xxxx and let's chat for a couple of minutes. I'm open Thursday evening ...". I learn more from 10 words out of someone's mouth than 100 words on any piece of paper.
 
How hard is it to email someone and say .. "Give me a call at xxx-xxx-xxxx and let's chat for a couple of minutes. I'm open Thursday evening ...". I learn more from 10 words out of someone's mouth than 100 words on any piece of paper.

I prefer to have the basic details on paper. If he answers that he wants $2,000 for a 4 hour wedding...well, there is no point to even a phone chat with this guy because I don't even book weddings for $2,000. If he lives in Pennsylvania, or somewhere way further than maybe 60 or 70 miles from me...then really there is not going to be much point to bring him aboard as well.

I prefer to know how far he is willing to travel as well.

If he doesn't have a website for his DJ business, how do I even know he is a DJ? Maybe he has a facebook page with pics of some events he has done?

These are really simple questions I'm asking him so I can get an idea of what he is looking for. Again, he is welcome to call if he prefers to. He is the one that emailed me first.