Been eyeing these things for a while now and found a good deal on ebay. I'm using a Sennheiser hand-held in my main rig and tired of fighting the feedback game during toasts or Anniversary dance interviews. Fingers crossed.
Just scored a Sabine SM820 for $135 on ebay
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Some thoughts to consider when using Mics. 1. Types of Mics matched for the correct application is also important.
2. If one is going to be using Mics a lot, it is best to always "ring" out the room. This will bring you to the point of where the feedback will begin.
3. The use of a Mic constitutes a "live" application so the proper processing through a Live Mixer is highly recommended before the Mic signal gets mixed in with the main outputs. Using just a DJ Mixer can have its drawbacks. When you turn down the frequencies on a DJ Mixer (Depending on the mixer), you may inadvertently be changing the frequencies for the Music Program.
Rick,
I can't remember if I've asked you this before, but how do you have your amps set? I'm a firm believer that proper gain structure can all but eliminate feedback problems.
I can't remember if I've asked you this before, but how do you have your amps set? I'm a firm believer that proper gain structure can all but eliminate feedback problems.
I'm using 2 Peavey IPR3000s. The sub amp is wide open. The tops are at 75%. Master out on the Denon x500 is 75% and channel gain is fairly low. I don't have a lot of feedback issues but am thinking one of these boxes would be good to keep inline.
I try to set my signal chain to '0' Unity Gain (nothing in the chain is boosting or cutting the signal). I then set my amps to the max level I think I will need. If I decide later I need a little more volume boost, I do it at the amp. No amp should ever be maxed out. It will add much 'noise' to the signal.
Edit: ...and it will make for easy feedback.
Edit: ...and it will make for easy feedback.
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Proper gain structure and proper mic still don't cover the idiot that holds a mic against their chest, walks directly in front of a speaker or a number of other things a professional user would never do. I've used a feedback reducer for a long time for those reasons. You sometimes can't hit the mute or fader fast enough.
That is true. I have learned a trick. I usually tell them beforehand not to walk away from where they are supposed to be because their volume will automatically go down. So if I see them headed towards the Bass Cabinets, I will immediately start taking the fader down. When they notice and look back at me I will point to where they are supposed to stand and they will sheepishly walk back to where they were.
I do primarily use a Wired Mike as a Standard fixture, my Elvis Mic. The Wireless is for the extra singers or in some cases where the person making the announcements is across the room. I also tell them that walking towards the Bass speakers will also cut off the volume so a little walking is allowed.
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BTW Whats up with your new Avatar Photo and the red Halo around your head. It makes you look like that guy with the red hair that went into the theatre and shot up a bunch of people.
Don't tell them that, ....they may double down on you. While at it, they may also tell you that the Plastic speakers are the new technology and therefore better than the wood enclosures.
It was my FourBar cycling through .. one of the bar patrons (a friend of mne) grabbed my camera and took a few shots so I hammed it up. at least it makes it look like I HAVE hair.
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BTW, I also picked up an "Elvis" mic (Shure Super 55). I like it a lot. Even glows blue (with phantom power).
I love the Elvis Mic and its output. Its great form singers who stand away from the Mics, you can turn up the gain with no worry about feedback. I used to use a Gooseneck with it put folks will mess with it and end up trying to sing through the solid metal head LOL. Call Bart Good at Sweetwater and he will fix you up with one. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...ampaign=none&gclid=CMSIj6CSmLMCFQU5nAodzGkAkQ
Here is mine from a Pic taken last Saturday.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24813806@N06/8113269274/in/set-72157631829177761/lightbox/
Here is mine from a Pic taken last Saturday.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24813806@N06/8113269274/in/set-72157631829177761/lightbox/
DjDennis
RIP- My Dad (2011), Sister (2013) and Mum (2017)
I love the traditional Elvis Mic
Been using a Super 55 the past couple of years now and love it. One thing, make sure you spring for the more expensive edition. It has a MUCH better capsule in it. This is the first mic that I've ever gotten compliments on (how it looks). I don't use it on a stand. People seem to notice it more in your hand (my impression). Need to try the phantom power thing. That would just be too cool.
Used that Sabine for the first time this weekend. Good unit. I hooked it up beforehand and rang out the system. Kinda cool to hear a tone develop, then a couple of seconds later the unit finds it and notches it out. I didn't really expect that much delay for it to recognize feedback so definitely put it in place and test BEFORE the gig. Now I gotta figure out the best way to mount the unit so it's accessible. It's obviously not just a set it and forget piece.
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