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$50,000 minimum starting point for DJ income only. Not to be confused with photo booth rental, up lighting , Husband and Wife teams or any other gimmick used to supplement their income.

My definition for a succesful DJ would be a DJ that is employed at his craft several times a week for his livilhood.
 
A "successful" DJ is one that is happy doing what they do and in turn makes others happy .. nothing to do with money .. that would be covered under sustainable.
 
Disagree! A successful DJ would be a Professional DJ. A Professional DJ would be a successful DJ with a starting income point of $50,000 unless of course you believed that the first time I went and shot pictures at a wedding reception I suddenly became a professional photographer.
 
Cesar said:
Disagree! A successful DJ would be a Professional DJ. A Professional DJ would be a successful DJ with a starting income point of $50,000 unless of course you believed that the first time I went and shot pictures at a wedding reception I suddenly became a professional photographer.
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I am trying to wrap my mind around this but can't seem to. I bow to your greater wisdom!
 
Cesar said:
Disagree! A successful DJ would be a Professional DJ. A Professional DJ would be a successful DJ with a starting income point of $50,000 unless of course you believed that the first time I went and shot pictures at a wedding reception I suddenly became a professional photographer.
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So $50K is the buy in point for success and professionalization. We may need to inform Websters and WikiPedia.
 
Why can't the $50,000 figure be used just like the final exam to pass the bar or what ever other obstacle you have to pass to become a certified professional.
 
Why $50K, why not truly make it a mark of distinction and make it $150K or more .. There are a bunch of DJs pulling that .. makes it an elite club.
 
Steve

Using your example of buy in point for success and professionalization. I paid for my classes and took the test to become a lawyer and I failed by one question. One question is what separated me from being a lawyer, How silly is that?
 
Cesar said:
Steve

Using your example of buy in point for success and professionalization. I paid for my classes and took the test to become a lawyer and I failed by one question. One question is what separated me from being a lawyer, How silly is that?
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You should have taken the test in English! :laugh:
 
Cesar said:
Gentlemen

My lawyer taking the test was a example or a comparision to my $50,000 starting point for a indicator of being a Professional DJ.
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And just as ridiculous.
 
Cesar said:
Gentlemen

My lawyer taking the test was a example or a comparision to my $50,000 starting point for a indicator of being a Professional DJ.
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That's called an analogy -- but if you were a pro, you would know that terminology... ;)
 
Cesar said:
Disagree! A successful DJ would be a Professional DJ. A Professional DJ would be a successful DJ with a starting income point of $50,000 unless of course you believed that the first time I went and shot pictures at a wedding reception I suddenly became a professional photographer.
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We can argue over and over what each person's definition of what a "professional" is or "success" is. It's kind of like arguing what the best movie ever made is.(Ok, maybe that's a bad analogy, as we all know it's Monty Python's The Holy Grail). There is a big difference between a fact and an opinion.

Personally, I think it's silly to suggest that a DJ making $45k and is happy, he deals with his peers and clients in a professional manner, and gets referrals, is not considered professional or successful. I'd be willing to bet there are DJs making over 50k a year by promising customers the world and can't or don't deliver. When the rep gets bad enough, they just change their DJ name and or/company name. Easy to do when you don't use your real name. But by your definition, they are a a true professional.

While income can be an INDICATOR of one's success in any profession, to suggest that income DEFINES success is showing that someone doesn't know what true success really means. Of course, that' only my opinion:).

Ryan Leaf made 10's of millions of dollars as a football player. I don't know anyone that would call him a successful football player and those that worked with him for the short time he was in football did not refer to him as "professional"
 
Scott Hanna said:
It's kind of like arguing what the best movie ever made is.(Ok, maybe that's a bad analogy, as we all know it's Monty Python's The Holy Grail).
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I sense a thread derailment ...
 
I thought the James Bond movies were the best! ;)
 
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