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DJay

DJay

New DJ
Oct 7, 2011
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Teeside
Hey people im having trouble cueing up to the 1st beat in sum of my tunes, i just cant seem to pinpoint were the 1st beat starts, or maybe i do but i dont think im right, hopefully that makes sense, any advice,tips on finding the beat would be much appreciated cheers :)
 
So Cal Hugh said:
Are you using LPs, Mp3s, cds? Also, what program are you using, if it's computer based?
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Im using MP3s and CDs but mostly MP3 files on a CD i use virtual DJ for messing on and getting to no my tracks better But i also use CD Decks again with MP3s both burned to a CD and from a usb flash drive
 
where on Earth is Teeside and give us more info about yourself we can help more efficiently if we know more demographics. Type of DJ you want to be and what you may have currently music and equipment wise other than your software already mentioned.
 
Jon Tuck said:
where on Earth is Teeside and give us more info about yourself we can help more efficiently if we know more demographics. Type of DJ you want to be and what you may have currently music and equipment wise other than your software already mentioned.
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UK,Northeast of England Middlesbrough? i dont see how thats relevant tho apolagies if i sound rude but i really dont see why erm i just want to learn to mix ive spent the last year or so watching youtube videos and compiling a music collection and a few weeks ago i bough some equipment, i guess i want to be a Bedroom DJ and if i get good who knows i might take it further, but for now i just want to learn to mix. im trying to mix Makina i have Gemini 6000 CD Decks Stanton DJ Pro 50 s Headphones and my sound comes from my sterio speakers which is a Sony Genezi GT4444 thanks for your reply again apolagies if i sound rude to you.
 
DJay, the questions are because we get a lot of idiots on here, and some (with my apologies to you first) sound much like what you posted. Your reply makes you sound legit (to me anyway), which might help you get more info from the masses.

I don't BPM mix much, so I'll bow out of this one, but I wish you many hours of happy mixing (if that is what is said in that circle).
 
I used to sit in my bedroom when I was 11 yrs old pretending to be Wolfman Jack and played all 20 of my new albums courtesy of Columbia Record House. I then joined a radio television class in 71 where we went live on air so my career as a DJ began then. I moved onto clubs while in the military traveling and DJing across the PAcific in most of Asia and then returned to Southern California and began my mobile DJ career. I picked up Karaoke and MC jobs and eventually traveled to 7 different countries over the yrs. Originally California, Oregon, Washington nad Las Vegas Nevada then moved North to British Columbia Canada and currently DJ and run the sales and marketing for a big multi DJ entertainment company here in Toronto so you can see it can start out just like you and become 40 yrs of pure pleasure and interesting storys along the way. Memories abound. The best way to learn beat matching is to get two simple tracks which have similar beat per minute raqnge without vocals. Listen to one through your monitor and then back cue ormatch up the beats until you can get them to run basically parralel with your cross fader in the middle both tracks mashing over the monitor and when you can do this and step away and let it run you have mastered beat matching then work on finding the breaks in songs with vocals etc to tidy up your skill a bit then go and improvise learn unique or tricks you have heard others do. Create a story with song or whatever you want. Good luck. I asked about your location because access to certain songs, gear etc are different across the pond than here in some cases. Welcome to ODJT and grow a strong back if you can take tough critique here ou will do fine in the field if you choose to move on. Many here have alot of yrs in the industry and have many valuable pearls of knowledge. I would like to think I picked up one or two in 40 yrs of this awesome career. I hope to share one or two here. Good luck with whatever you choose. Mind sharing your age? What kind of music do you like?
 
So Cal Hugh said:
DJay, the questions are because we get a lot of idiots on here, and some (with my apologies to you first) sound much like what you posted. Your reply makes you sound legit (to me anyway), which might help you get more info from the masses.

I don't BPM mix much, so I'll bow out of this one, but I wish you many hours of happy mixing (if that is what is said in that circle).
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The question were i thought he waz being rude is were on earth is Teeside? i read it like he was saying it with an attitude i realise now it was just a curious question so i apolagize to Jon for how i took that. it says DJ Menace in the mix its just something i made for my decks in Virtual DJ lol. Im legit but im a noob and just want to learn ive always been keen on DJing but the price of the equipment put me off learning because if i couldnt do it and had sell my equipment to sum1 who can use it id lose out moneywise, but i finally got offered sum decks cheap or atleast i think they were so i bought them.
 
I got a small stereo for my 6th grade grad and then my Grandma who knew my love of music got the contract for Columbia. I got rid of my first record collection when leaving for the military and that was a regret beings I had rare and collector vinyl and stuff I cant find on CD or since on vinyl. Glad to see you got the proper book for your needs to start off. Dennis might be able to help you with the remaining books via ebooks. Heres a little remix fitting of your comments.

[video=youtube;h-gROwvWuL0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-gROwvWuL0[/video]
 
Jon Tuck said:
I used to sit in my bedroom when I was 11 yrs old pretending to be Wolfman Jack and played all 20 of my new albums courtesy of Columbia Record House. I then joined a radio television class in 71 where we went live on air so my career as a DJ began then. I moved onto clubs while in the military traveling and DJing across the PAcific in most of Asia and then returned to Southern California and began my mobile DJ career. I picked up Karaoke and MC jobs and eventually traveled to 7 different countries over the yrs. Originally California, Oregon, Washington nad Las Vegas Nevada then moved North to British Columbia Canada and currently DJ and run the sales and marketing for a big multi DJ entertainment company here in Toronto so you can see it can start out just like you and become 40 yrs of pure pleasure and interesting storys along the way. Memories abound. The best way to learn beat matching is to get two simple tracks which have similar beat per minute raqnge without vocals. Listen to one through your monitor and then back cue ormatch up the beats until you can get them to run basically parralel with your cross fader in the middle both tracks mashing over the monitor and when you can do this and step away and let it run you have mastered beat matching then work on finding the breaks in songs with vocals etc to tidy up your skill a bit then go and improvise learn unique or tricks you have heard others do. Create a story with song or whatever you want. Good luck. I asked about your location because access to certain songs, gear etc are different across the pond than here in some cases. Welcome to ODJT and grow a strong back if you can take tough critique here ou will do fine in the field if you choose to move on. Many here have alot of yrs in the industry and have many valuable pearls of knowledge. I would like to think I picked up one or two in 40 yrs of this awesome career. I hope to share one or two here. Good luck with whatever you choose. Mind sharing your age? What kind of music do you like?
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Sorry Jon i read your question like you had a attitude, wow 40yrs :eek: thatz awesome, im 22 and i like Makina, i cant begin to beatmatch because i just cant seem to cue in the right place take this track for instance DJ Sisu and Ortuno- Scream 2002 remix (youtube it the video with the white car) id say in the video the 1st beat is at 21 seconds(on the video) but after a while il think no thats not right 1st beats at 49 seconds and becasue i have no one to assure me ive got it cued right on my decks i think its wrong.
 
ahoustondj said:
Here you go. You may find help here.

http://www.amazon.com/DJing-Dummies-..._bxgy_b_text_b

http://www.amazon.com/Laptop-DJ-Hand.../ref=pd_sim_b4

http://www.amazon.com/DJ-Skills-esse.../ref=pd_sim_b3

http://www.amazon.com/DJ-Handbook-Ch...ref=pd_sim_b24

http://www.amazon.com/Crash-Course-D...ref=pd_sim_b34

http://www.amazon.com/DJ-Sales-Marke...ref=pd_sim_b41

http://www.amazon.com/DJ-Cookbook-Bu.../ref=pd_sim_b6

http://www.amazon.com/Mobile-DJ-Hand...ref=pd_sim_b10
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None them links work mate but thanks anyway ive looked into the DJ for dummys book before it seems most books are focused on tuntable Djing im on cd decks that dont have vinyl mode so cueing is done with stutter effect, i no some parts still apply tho but until i can learn to cue up at the 1st beat i dont see any point in learning anything elseid prefer to practice 1 step at a time.
 
jokerswild said:
Ok wait a minute here.... are you saying you can't find the beat? SERIOUSLY?
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Nope im saying i dont no if i can find the Ist beat to cue my track up i have no one to assure me ive got it cued right so for all i no i could have it cued right but because im not a pro DJ im assuming ive got it wrong and im cueing it at another place.on the other hand you could be right and i cant find the beat but without help i honestly dont no
 
DJay said:
Nope im saying i dont no if i can find the Ist beat to cue my track up i have no one to assure me ive got it cued right so for all i no i could have it cued right but because im not a pro DJ im assuming ive got it wrong and im cueing it at another place.on the other hand you could be right and i cant find the beat but without help i honestly dont no
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Bawhahahahahahahahah {takes a deep breath} hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa

Do us a favor pack up your gear and sell it... if you can't even put a pair of headphones on and cue a track.... sorry not trying to be mean but... come on... are you really serious?
 
jokerswild said:
Bawhahahahahahahahah {takes a deep breath} hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa

Do us a favor pack up your gear and sell it... if you can't even put a pair of headphones on and cue a track.... sorry not trying to be mean but... come on... are you really serious?
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Im guessing you just mastered tha skill in 2minutes? people need help with different things dont act like you no it all im sure you had help at somepoint in your life. if you aint willing to help dont comment its that easy everyone starts somewhere.
 
DJay said:
Im guessing you just mastered tha skill in 2minutes? people need help with different things dont act like you no it all im sure you had help at somepoint in your life. if you aint willing to help dont comment its that easy everyone starts somewhere.
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Sure, everyone needs help every now and again but, you are talking about the very essence or basics of music theory... you're telling us you can't even find the beat... that is utterly ridiculous... unless you've got no rhythem and can't even tap your foot to the beat of your favorite songs.

Alright look.... find a song you're familar with.... tap your foot to it and count 1.. 2.. 3.. 4.. typically the snare is going to fall on beats 2 and 4... and the kick (bass drum) will fall somewhere in between.... so.... the most basic beat is 1(Kick).. 2(snare).. 3(kick).. 4(snare)..

Let me put a question to you... Do you have ANY music education background at all? If not get a book on music theory and learn how to determine the time signature of music by ear... Maybe even pick up some drum sheet music from and then listen to the music as you read the sheet music.

Rhythem as they say is in the soul... it's not necesarilly a skill... moreso it's a feeling...
 
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