What is a Clean Look/Setup?

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ahoustondj

ahoustondj

Mac Daddy DJ
Aug 13, 2007
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I did not want to derail Steve Le Blancs Thread with any more posts. He asked for feedback and I believe that he got more than enough. I Googled "DJ Setups" and came up with these. You can give your own two cents.

Site # 1.
To me, everything looks too bulky and congested. Your eyes are drawn immediately to the equipment. If the objective is to blend in, it is highly defeated.
Silver setup outdoors." & "Gold setup with light downgrade." both have the cleanest look but would be better if he located the speakers away from the table.

The spandex scrims look better but if they in other areas besides right next to the table they would look elegant.

Site #2

Small system but very clean looking. Again, if you can imagine the speakers not being in the picture and more separated the look will be cleaner.

Feel free to post links, pics.
 
nextgen1 said:
For me the first one is way to busy. I'm a fan of simple and elegant so for me I like the second one better than the first. Brides do really like there whole wedding to be elegant. So do venues our goals are always to make us and everyone look good.
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I do admire your setups but will encourage you to also spread out those L1s a bit to reduce the Goalpost look. Other than that you always strive for excellence. I can see that!
 
To me, a neat looking set up simply does not "clash" with the room decor. Besides the obvious things like cords being out, I find that in most instances, a nice looking facade, like a table skirt, makes things look a little classier.

No one came to a party to look at DJ equipment. They came to have a good time. The equipment should "fit in". If the first thing someone notices when they walk in the room is DJ equipment, it's probably not done right. Just like if the first thing someone notices about a DJ is how the DJ is dressed, he's probably not dressed appropriately.

Of course, a neat looking set up doesn't mean a thing if the DJ isn't any good.
 
Here is a perfect example of most of the venues and room that we get. This is from lasts nights party. It was the country clubs annual 2011 Men's Invitational. Its a great example of the room most venues give us, Even with out spreading everything out we take up about 9 foot by 5 foot of real estate. Now the tables where there for looks but they were not moving them. They where not setup for the dinner but simply for looks but people of course still used them to sit.
 

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nextgen1 said:
Here is a perfect example of most of the venues and room that we get. This is from lasts nights party. It was the country clubs annual 2011 Men's Invitational. Its a great example of the room most venues give us, Even with out spreading everything out we take up about 9 foot by 5 foot of real estate. Now the tables where there for looks but they were not moving them. They where not setup for the dinner but simply for looks but people of course still used them to sit.
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From the one pic its difficult to get the scope of the room. However, I would have chosen to put those two tables, one on each side, closer to my booth and placed the Speakers farther out. but pointed towards the dance Floor. At that time the speakers could have been closer to the back wall which will give you a bit better sound. Again, its hard to tell the scope of the room with one pic.
 
nextgen1 said:
Yep that would have been awesome. But the venue was not going to move them. The room was a crowded 250 person party.
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I don't want to belabor the Subject but what does a "crowded 250 person party" have to do with moving (Not Removing) the tables over a bit?
If you asked and they refused you may want to take the time to learn how to get answers you want. Did you consult with YOUR Client beforehand? If you asked the Venue, "where do you want me to setup?" then you have to live with the reply? Just saying.

I would have handled it this way. "I need to place my speakers here and here, so can you help me to scoot this table over a bit as it will be in the way? Don't wait for an answer, just start doing. Add, "I need this width otherwise my speakers would be too close." (Your hearing will thank you in later years)
 
My setups with facade and table. Mackie 1501 sub is hidden

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Where is my prize?
 
Mark Beecher said:
My setups with facade and table. Mackie 1501 sub is hidden



Where is my prize?
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First you have to move the L1s farther apart (Bottom Photo). In your pic its the first thing one sees. I can imagine what the guests also see. Why the need to hide the Sub? Don't tell me it is behind the facade!:trirolleyes:
 
ahoustondj said:
First you have to move the L1s farther apart (Bottom Photo). In your pic its the first thing one sees. I can imagine what the guests also see. Why the need to hide the Sub? Don't tell me it is behind the facade!:trirolleyes:
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Mabye not. He's using L1s....a line array it really doesn't make that much difference due to dispersion pattern and actually putting them too far apart might cause more trouble than it fixes.

But I do agree a sub should never be behing a Facade
 
Jeff Romard said:
Mabye not. He's using L1s....a line array it really doesn't make that much difference due to dispersion pattern and actually putting them too far apart might cause more trouble than it fixes.

But I do agree a sub should never be behing a Facade
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My concern is the Goalpost look!
 
Sorry Canute I misunderstood what you were saying
 
Canute its your opinion only. I have never heard a client mention the look nor a venue manager. In fact often times a bride doesnt want a big pile of spread out pictures of 18 inch subs etc in her wedding album. I remain out of the main shots yet my speakers are set to maximize sound to the location of most importance for the party giving proper coverage of the dancefloor as you have seen from pictures I have shared. Since in Toronto many of them setup the goal posts with much success and I have yet to have anyone say oh your setup location is so much better than the others. I do get compliments on the sound quality of what I bring. My gig Saturday was in such a tiny room and didnt even bring a sub. I brought the SXA 100's which worked great for the age group and room. I almost always bring the Dyna sound as I love the results.
 
Jon Tuck said:
Canute its your opinion only. I have never heard a client mention the look nor a venue manager. In fact often times a bride doesnt want a big pile of spread out pictures of 18 inch subs etc in her wedding album. I remain out of the main shots yet my speakers are set to maximize sound to the location of most importance for the party giving proper coverage of the dancefloor as you have seen from pictures I have shared. Since in Toronto many of them setup the goal posts with much success and I have yet to have anyone say oh your setup location is so much better than the others. I do get compliments on the sound quality of what I bring. My gig Saturday was in such a tiny room and didnt even bring a sub. I brought the SXA 100's which worked great for the age group and room. I almost always bring the Dyna sound as I love the results.
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Hey what can I say! I am also in the Art (Visual) and Interior Design business so aesthetics mean a lot to me. I don't bring a whole pile of speakers to every event. When I do it won't matter because the size of the room would be large enough to accommodate it ratio wise. This is why I have several setups for different applications. Remember we are only expressing opinions here.
 
ahoustondj said:
My concern is the Goalpost look!
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Plenty of real issues out there. Let's not create ones that simply are not an issue.


My personal experience......
In 6 years, I have never had client or guest say they didn't like they look because it looks like goal posts. People often are not shy to tell you what they think.

My personal opinion.....

If a guy thought they look like goal posts, he probably wouldn't care.

Women don't look at those things and think of goal posts.

So, spread them out if the need calls for it, but going out of one's way to spread them out to avoid the "dreaded" goalpost look is looking for something that simply isn't there. If the look bothered the DJ himself..or herself..that much, I would suggest going with a different brand of speaker. Plenty of other options out there.
 
ahoustondj said:
First you have to move the L1s farther apart (Bottom Photo). In your pic its the first thing one sees. I can imagine what the guests also see. Why the need to hide the Sub? Don't tell me it is behind the facade!:trirolleyes:
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The sub is up against the back wall where it will do the most good. Find any lint on the carpeted facade? May I see your set up so I can see how to do it correctly?
 
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