School & Teen Events Prom Sound System Review & Photos RCF / FBT

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I just DJ'd two Grad dinner - dances (Proms for you guys down South!) and just had to write a little something about how much I love my compact sound system and my two Acrobats. I also had an American DJ Roto Gobo projecting ‘Class of 2010’ up on the wall.

Both Proms were in held in large ballrooms. The first room measured 75 x 42 feet (3150 square feet) with about 300 guests and the second was more square and is 6808 square feet with 400 guests, a nice big room! At both Proms, there was an 8 x 8 foot riser set up for the podium. One sub was set up on either side of the podium with a top set above each sub. Once the dancing started, I removed the podium so the kids could dance on the riser.

Sound consisted of two RCF ART 705-AS sub-woofers and two FBT MaxX 4a tops; that's it! That system more than rocked the room once again. The bass was tight and strong at the back of the room and the mids / highs were crystal clear throughout. I love big rooms as it gives the bass waves the room needed to grow. All sound gear was plugged into one 15 amp circuit along with my mixer, two Denon decks, one laptop and an MC-1 controller for the Acrobats. The Acrobats were plugged into a separate circuit, I think... along with a Colorstrip 'behind' the riser. That was set to color-fade during cocktails / dinner, then sound-active to program #8 during dancing.

With the strong Canadian dollar, I think I'm going to pick up a third sub. You just never know when it might come in handy... I already own four of the FBT 4a tops. You really gotta love 35 pound tops. I also own a pair of Colorstrips which I believe is enough to light up any room / gym.

As for the Bats, well what can I say? They are incredible to say the least. Two can fill any room with movement and color.

The kids at both Grads were incredible. My thanks to them for trusting me to DJ this very special day in their lives.
 

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Curious....about how many people were in attendance?
 
One sub was set up on either side of the podium with a top set above each sub.

Awesome pics!

I would advise that the sub placement is less than optimal. You may want to experiment with placing the subs together (e.g. cabinets touching each other), woofers facing the wall, about 1ft from the wall. That will provide a much more even bass field in the room.
 
soundinmotion, that is too funny, you sound like me preaching about the benefits of coupling and wall loading subs. Believe me, I know the theory (power-alley) and usually put it into practice. With that being said, the first time I set things up this way, I was expecting less than stellar sound but what I got instead was unbelievable sound and even bass throughout. Go figure...

Thanks for the props on the photos by the way...
 
Loving the Acrobats. By far the best light I've ever owned, followed by the Colorstrips!

Looks like a nice, clean small setup and it looks like the kids are having a damn good time!
 
Looks like they had fun,,, but not enough lights for me at a school event... not any variety.... but that is just me... A prom should be special, not like a regular school dance,,,,, it is our job to make it that... even if the school got a small package, I personally would have up-graded them because of how I feel... IMO
 
Looks like they had fun,,, but not enough lights for me at a school event... not any variety.... but that is just me... A prom should be special, not like a regular school dance,,,,, it is our job to make it that... even if the school got a small package, I personally would have up-graded them because of how I feel... IMO

Ok Santa Claus. With a mentality like that you won't be hired by even Wal-Mart.
Ever heard the saying "you get what yer pay fer"? Start giving away the store and pretty soon everyone else is expecting the giveaway. Why set precedents?
 
Because I think long term not short term.... what may seem like "giving something away" in the short term, builds client satisfaction and if you wanna be in business 25 or more years, you need to build those types of relationships...

Too many DJs are ego driven and think they deserve this and that,, when in reality, as important as we are in the overall success of any event, it is not about us and how much we can stick it to a client and how much we can bleed them for....

Really
 
Because I think long term not short term.... what may seem like "giving something away" in the short term, builds client satisfaction and if you wanna be in business 25 or more years, you need to build those types of relationships...

Too many DJs are ego driven and think they deserve this and that,, when in reality, as important as we are in the overall success of any event, it is not about us and how much we can stick it to a client and how much we can bleed them for....

Really

The only concessions I make are to outfits, Clubs that will hire me on a long term regular basis. It becomes a negotiated deal. I try not to do giveaways to "one time" clients because they blabber their mouths to their friends and before you know it, the friends expect the same.

It has nothing to do with ego, if you can't sell the fries with the hamburger for full price then the customer does not need to get it. You are giving away profits is what you are doing.

When you go to the grocery to buy meat, do they give you the salad for free? The more you put in the shopping cart the more you should expect to pay. If the money ain't enough then you need to take some stuff out of the basket. The grocery store ain't going to feel sorry for you and give it to you for free!
 
For me, when I was on the Mainland, shools were about 80% of my yearly income.... I had a number of schools where I did all their dances for 10, or 15 years.... I did one high school where a teacher came up to me and said that I DJ'd her Prom! LOL

You never know if a client is a one time deal... but yes,,, I will be more flexible with people I think will hire me for the long run...

But for this thread, and the OP... we are talking schools....
 
Chuck, this is my third year for this school. When I get a school, I keep them. :) Everything comes into play when setting up a show, the time I'm given to set-up is one of the key factors. This particular room for example was still being flipped when I got there. That isn't even the spot where they originally had me setting up! I had to battle with them to go there. Yes, I had everything arranged with the school before hand but they venue had a new guy in charge who set it up differently than previously years without telling them ahead of time about his plans.

If you've never seen them in action, two Acrobats can fill any room with more light than a large number of other lighting effects. With the MC-1 controller, I can change what they do with a push of a button, including making them strobe, freeze on a moving or still pattern, react slow, slow-plus, medium, medium-plus, fast, psycho-fast, sync them together or have each do their own program. That sounds like variety to me! Lol... Sometimes I put the Colorstrips up in the air horizontally, sometimes vertically, sometimes the way shown for a sound-active uplighting effect. Of course photos because of the flash, won't show the true effect of the lights.
 
Aloha Steven...

This is just a difference of opinion.... I've had this battle with other DJs for years... LOL

IMO, no matter what any scanner lights can do, it is still two lights coming from the same spot all night long. I know we DJ's buy lights maybe more for us than we do the clients, and bring more than we really need, we also do that with sound gear.

And I have no right telling anyone how to run their business.... all I know is what I do or what I have done and what works for me... That is the only perspective that I know.
 
soundinmotion, that is too funny, you sound like me preaching about the benefits of coupling and wall loading subs. Believe me, I know the theory (power-alley) and usually put it into practice. With that being said, the first time I set things up this way, I was expecting less than stellar sound but what I got instead was unbelievable sound and even bass throughout. Go figure...

With that sub placement, you know you had a "power alley." If you heard "even bass throughout" - I suspect that you need to work to better train your ears. Perhaps with some work, the sound would become more "believable."

You also know that you did not get +3dB from mutual coupling of the subs, and +6dB for moving from half space to quarter space. Since +10dB requires 10x the power, you also know that to achieve the desired SPL, you put almost 10x the power through your subs compared to what you know how to do. Additional power means additional heat and additional wear and tear.

I recommend this book and audio CD for anyone who is serious about learning to really listen to sound...it takes a lot of time, but is a worthwhile investment in your skills.

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Yes, I know all that... You are preaching to the choir! Just check out some of my previous posts. Lol.
I couple my subs whenever feasible, it's as simple as that.

I posted a photo that hopefully makes you feel better...
Or maybe you'll be thinking, "Why didn't he place them against the wall or load them into the corner?" :rofl:
 

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Or maybe you'll be thinking, "Why didn't he place them against the wall or load them into the corner?" :rofl:

:sqrolleyes:

There are many great reasons to make compromises in setup and sound system placement. I make those trade offs all the time. My preference is to "hide" the sound system behind backdrops whenever possible...even when it causes me to violate the "rules" of good placement. However, when placing a system, I am under no illusions about the effects on the sound..."believable" or not.
 
A always seem to prefer the smooth sound and extra bass output that the FBT cab's have to offer. I have heard the RCF ART722a and it was a very nice sounding cab. I don't think anyone has heard the new 14" FBT though... If I could have afforded the FBT subs, I would have went with them too because of their higher output but I am happy with my RCF subs.