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Well done Tom. You made due with what they gave you. Made it work and didn't have to throw a hissy fit. Kudos to you.
Reception is indoors but you will be setting up outdoors on the porch....wtf
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Well done Tom. You made due with what they gave you. Made it work and didn't have to throw a hissy fit. Kudos to you.
Whoever says someone has to throw a hissy fit? Can you honestly answer that question?
Hey Karl,
First and Second Picture I am Standing on the Dancefloor taking a pic of the Setup. To the right of the setup is the Bar, to the Right is the Doors to enter the Hall.
In the 3rd pic see the 2 guys standing on the Walkway just to the right of them is where I am set up (look near the floor where they are standing you can see the Black Light glowing) and where the entrance to the hall is.
Here is another pic of the hall right after you walk in the doors that I am beside
AH HA!!!! Now we get to the meat. Being in that mix is where the real separation among professionals occurs.
It doesn't happen every-time, and certainly not without having an established level of trust with an early member of the planning party, but it does happen, and it leads to more of what you want to do than to what you have to do.
Nothing is more humbling and satisfying to me than having a client trust my experience and asking for guidance that is not typically assigned to "just a dj."
That trust facilitates the provision of a level of service that clients deserve and creates a relationship that transcends advertising and yellow-page ads.
The first time I performed at a wedding for a client's adult child for whom I also performed at that child's Sweet 16 or Mitzvah, I received the most valuable tips I could have expected, hugs and acknowledgment from family members that thanked me for doing what I though was simply my duty. I knew these people and cared about them, and that, unbeknownst to me, was clearly broadcast through speakers, throughout my performance. I didn't plan it, or script it, but it happened and they appreciated it.
That can't/won't/ain't likely to happen by making your first appearance X minutes before the newlyweds arrive. Or by simply making it work and accepting the easy path at the first sign of resistance. I know, I have suffered the folly of that behavior in the past.
I vowed to effort, and I can't and don't always hit it that well, that kind of performance for my clients.
Every bride is some Father's precious daughter, every groom, is some Mom's special boy, I am simply honored to be a part of the effort that results in their special moments.
If that sounded arrogant, or like I think I know everything, follow Thunder's lead and put me on ignore.
Tommy,
Yes I raised my speakers. But as I work alone (hard for me to trust anyone else), Eastwind makes it very hard to have an intimate (a very important factor) event.
The head table and dance floor are way far away, so I prefer to decline.
Nothing wrong with that. And yes Rox, my business plan does allow me to do that.
If it didn't, I'd leave the business. If it ain't fun, forget about it!
It's not all about the money, but it's all about my love of this business. And that shows, as it does for most here, in every event.
Yes I raised my speakers. But as I work alone (hard for me to trust anyone else), Eastwind makes it very hard to have an intimate (a very important factor) event.
The head table and dance floor are way far away, so I prefer to decline.
Nothing wrong with that. And yes Rox, my business plan does allow me to do that.
If it didn't, I'd leave the business. If it ain't fun, forget about it!
It's not all about the money, but it's all about my love of this business. And that shows, as it does for most here, in every event.
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Yes, I never said anyone did. I said Tom Didn't. Is that honest enough for you?
Inference my friend...inference....... but whatever!
You and your 2 dollar word, inference, pbbt, whodthunkit?
Thanks for EVERYONES replies!! A lot of great reading!
Didn't like to see you guys going back and forth at each other but by page 3 it seems everything is all good again.
Didn't like to see you guys going back and forth at each other but by page 3 it seems everything is all good again.
I haven't read this whole thread but if I understand the OP correctly they have designated an outdoors setup point for an indoor event...
I did one like this at a very tiny cabin on the Goshen College campus there was absolutely no room for a DJ setup inside so I set up on the porch and pointed my speakers in through an open window and simply passed a mic to them.... once dinner was done everyone came outside and we partied on the deck.... it was a lot of fun especially on a hot July evening.
I did one like this at a very tiny cabin on the Goshen College campus there was absolutely no room for a DJ setup inside so I set up on the porch and pointed my speakers in through an open window and simply passed a mic to them.... once dinner was done everyone came outside and we partied on the deck.... it was a lot of fun especially on a hot July evening.
Exactly. There are 2 1/2 venues in my area that I will not work at for logistical reasons.
One is on the second floor and the DJ can only use a narrow & steep wooden outdoor stairway (that make a U-turn half way up) that always has pelican & sea gull poop on them. For ADA approval, there is a wheelchair LIFT inside, but we cannot use it- period, end of discussion. The staff is nice, the service is great, and the food is great, but the owners (not staff) will not budge on DJs loading equipment thru the inside, even if it's raining. BTW- many other DJs also won't work here.
Another is a similar situation, 7-8 steps up to the room, ADA acessability is logistically unpractical for people loading equipment in & out.
Injuring my back would be far more costly than any revenue lost by turning down these 2-3 gigs a year.
The 1/2 is a wedding mill that is just a PITA to work at.
I agree. It would make more sense to have you inside & a speaker outside that you can control the level on. (powered speaker...send signal wirelessly)
I recently had a prospective bride want me to bring a dance floor (at no extra charge) to setup outside in case people out there may want to dance. She also had a few other red flags ideas that you couldn't talk her out of.
I turned her gig down. Not worth the all the additional nonsence.
I recently had a prospective bride want me to bring a dance floor (at no extra charge) to setup outside in case people out there may want to dance. She also had a few other red flags ideas that you couldn't talk her out of.
I turned her gig down. Not worth the all the additional nonsence.
Convey to them what you need for setup at the first consult. Re-affirm it at the planning meetings later right before the event - even with a schematic/drawing if needed/possible.
If anything has changed on their side, work with them to change it back the way you need it. If its a venue stipulation, get with the venue staff and simply let them know you're needs and why their "proposed" layout will be detrimental to the event itself and the experience of the guests.
Post these DJ Setup Tips on your site (as long as your not competing against me here in Cali!):
http://www.sounds2go.com/sacramento-dj-equipment.html
Don't let yourself and your setup get relegated to an afterthought.
If anything has changed on their side, work with them to change it back the way you need it. If its a venue stipulation, get with the venue staff and simply let them know you're needs and why their "proposed" layout will be detrimental to the event itself and the experience of the guests.
Post these DJ Setup Tips on your site (as long as your not competing against me here in Cali!):
http://www.sounds2go.com/sacramento-dj-equipment.html
Don't let yourself and your setup get relegated to an afterthought.
Sexual innuendos aside, the back and forth is the real value in any of these discussions, exchanges, debates.
Otherwise, there would be only one post with an infinite number of "Thank Yous." You can get that kinda of mindless conformity at the DNCTalk.com forum.
The schematic suggestion is spot on and, for me, has lead to several venues adjusting their previously "rigid" requirements and agreeing that adjustment is not horrible.
Clients, vendors, and venue reps have complimented me on that practice. I knew I wasn't the only practitioner of that extra effort but I an absolutely confident that I am one a very few that do. It is a not-so-secret secret weapon in my arsenal.