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niagprem

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Nov 12, 2007
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Do you find that your mic channels are really hot compared to the rest of the channels on the board. I'm having a problem getting my mic level past 1 on the dial without being too loud and feedbacking. I'm running it into a pair of Bose L1. There is no room for adjustment. If I need to go the tiniest little bit louder I get a squeel, not too cool with my wedding groups

Dean
Niagara Premier DJ's
 
Just a side question, do you have any other signal processing gear in your system? Only reason I ask, it might help us help you figure out what is going on.
 
niagprem said:
No, mic into mixer into Bose L1. No problems with my 4 music channels only the mic channels (both of them)

Thanks, Dean
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If you are just using one mic have you tried plugging it directly into the Bose L1 and seeing if you have a problem there? You could use the Bose romote to control the mic level. Just to see if it's a problem with the mixer or the mic... if you have the same problem plugged directly then it's probably the mic has a problem.
 
I have an X-900, which is very similar to the 500, and I've never had any problems with the mic and the board. I don't run a Bose though, and I'll be watching your threads closely for a resolution to the issue, because I was thinking about getting an L1 Compact for ceremonies.
 
DJ Ducky said:
I have an X-900, which is very similar to the 500, and I've never had any problems with the mic and the board. I don't run a Bose though, and I'll be watching your threads closely for a resolution to the issue, because I was thinking about getting an L1 Compact for ceremonies.
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I sereously doubt it's a Bose issue.... it sounds to me like either a mic or mixer issue....
 
jokerswild said:
I sereously doubt it's a Bose issue.... it sounds to me like either a mic or mixer issue....
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I'm betting the mic.

Later this week I will be hooking up my 2500 / 500 / Bose setup for the first time.
 
jokerswild said:
I sereously doubt it's a Bose issue.... it sounds to me like either a mic or mixer issue....
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I'm not sure about that, because the J Mac and I use the same Shure mics that Dean mentioned in his other thread. We also use a VERY similar mixer and have had no problems. However, we run a small passive system.

It really does sound like there's a compatibility issue of some sort with the Bose system. Heck, it could have to do with using the Denon mixer in conjunction with the Bose system. Somehow, the sound levels on Dean's mics are out of whack.

Thinking more about this...the Bose system has a mixer, too, right? If so, then the fact that there are 2 mixers might be a part of the problem.
 
DJ Ducky said:
I'm not sure about that, because the J Mac and I use the same Shure mics that Dean mentioned in his other thread. We also use a VERY similar mixer and have had no problems. However, we run a small passive system.

It really does sound like there's a compatibility issue of some sort with the Bose system. Heck, it could have to do with using the Denon mixer in conjunction with the Bose system. Somehow, the sound levels on Dean's mics are out of whack.

Thinking more about this...the Bose system has a mixer, too, right? If so, then the fact that there are 2 mixers might be a part of the problem.
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The likelihood of it being a compatabilty issue is not very likely like 1 in 1000000.
 
jokerswild said:
The likelihood of it being a compatabilty issue is not very likely like 1 in 1000000.
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Rob, I'm not going to argue anymore. Something's out of whack and I was only trying to help. I'm not saying that the Bose is flawed in any way. I'm just saying that the issue could be between running 2 audio mixers. Without going into detail, I think that your suggestion to plug the mic directly into the Bose will work.



Dean, I hope this works out for you. Please let us know what solution you find.
 
Wow Football is over and Purdue and Notre Dame still back and forth. Dean I think if you do as Rob initially mentioned you will be more happy. I had some hot mic issues when first plugging my new EV mics into the DNX-900 then did as Rob said. Especially the headset its hotter than That Bhut Pepper Papa Duece talks about. Also on the back of my mixer I have a DB limiter.
 
It seams the only solution is to bring level of Bose sticks down to about 2. I can then get the mic levels up to reasonable level. Still on the edge of feedback though. The Shure PGX/SM58 is the real problem mic. It is hot. I've set the attenuation switch down but still hot.
 
niagprem said:
It seams the only solution is to bring level of Bose sticks down to about 2. I can then get the mic levels up to reasonable level. Still on the edge of feedback though. The Shure PGX/SM58 is the real problem mic. It is hot. I've set the attenuation switch down but still hot.
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Yikes... that is what I have.
 
DJ Ducky said:
Rob, I'm not going to argue anymore. Something's out of whack and I was only trying to help. I'm not saying that the Bose is flawed in any way. I'm just saying that the issue could be between running 2 audio mixers. Without going into detail, I think that your suggestion to plug the mic directly into the Bose will work.



Dean, I hope this works out for you. Please let us know what solution you find.
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Oh no I didn't mean anything by what I said.... and you're right. At this moment we can't rule out the Bose... but, with everything he's already stated with the music program being fine it just leads me to the mic itself or the mixer....

So, I didn't mean to sound like your thoughts weren't valid... please forgive me if that's how you took it.... Besides I'm affraid you'll kick my ass in March when we all meet up.... :sqwink:
 
Using a passive system, I've always set my amps all the way to 10. Always thought that was the correct thing to do. Why would amps mounted in the speaker be any different?

Dean
 
I had an X-500 and had the same trouble with hot mic input/feedback. I just sold the board a couple weeks ago. I'm now using strictly Rane boards and plan to stay with them, only thing I miss is the talk-over button on the X-500.

Best,

Paul
 
I use the same mixer with Bose L1's & don't have any problems. I'd say it's your mic, try a hyper or super cardioid pattern mic & see where that leads you. I use a AKG D5 which has a super cardioid. I actually run two WMS 450 wireless systems with this mic & They have been very good to me.

Are you running the L1's behind you? If so that could also be add to your feedback problem.

In all cases I wouldn't blame your mixer.
 
What about the Mic output level?
Was it set to the min value?
I think its just a hot output from the Mic box...


PDX Specs:

Audio Input Level

+2 dBV maximum at –10dB position
–8 dBV maximum at 0dB position


Gain Adjustment Range

10dB
 
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